(Archived) THE RUMOUR MILL - Player Movement
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Jaws
Why are the NRL looking to pay the transfer with the Marquee player fund? Especially when Souths received a transfer fee from Bath when he went over there.
If Souths or any other club want him back they should pay for it out of their own pocket.
I've always disliked the idea of this marquee fund and this is why. Using it at the NRL's discretion will cause massive inconsistencies and controversy.
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Apparently his contract is looking towards $1.5 million. I wouldn't go near him for that price, he's just not that vital.
There will be a huge uproar if the nrl empty their war chest to help souths get him back.
There will be a huge uproar if the nrl empty their war chest to help souths get him back.
HaroldBishop
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The NRL should appoint Tony Abbott as Dave Smith's successor and they can just reply to issues like this with "we don't comment on operational matters."
evertonshark
Jaws
Absolutely ridiculous. Why don't they pay his wage too while they're at it.
BlackWhiteBlue
Jaws
The 1.5mil will include 3rd parties. His cap value will be below a mil. Channel 9 probably wanna pay his salary
sharks2010
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I'm outraged
If the NRL topup is available to all Clubs - that is, if any Club came to the NRL saying we want to offer Burgess $1m and we need you to bump it up $300k to get him over the line - then its totally fair. And smart.
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But not if it's exempt from the cap, because then one club has a player with this exemption, and all the other teams can't match it unless the Nrl chooses to help them lure someone else. Something which is unlikely to happen for 16 teams.
So we are then left with one club with 300k extra in their cap.
http://www.zerotackle.com/nrl/panthers-release-jamal-idris-19548/#MWrWtY1F6F0Mrpvg.97
lol last week he was quoted saying how much he loves the club and wants to repay them next season for showing faith in him bla bla bla. what a load of ****. Another waste of talent whose just gonna throw his career down the drain.
lol last week he was quoted saying how much he loves the club and wants to repay them next season for showing faith in him bla bla bla. what a load of ****. Another waste of talent whose just gonna throw his career down the drain.
HaroldBishop
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Yep. The salary cap is meant to promote equality. Sure, it doesn't exactly do that atm, but the NRL subsidising players is a joke, especially when it's South's ex CEO doing it in his capacity as an NRL employee. Stinks.
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Jaws
It's not really fair. Or smart. The club who gets him gets to spend the cap+300k, whereas everyone else only gets the cap. Plus, the NRL can pick and choose who qualifies as a "marquee" at their own discretion. So, clubs may lose players or not sign players that are just as important to them as the "marquee" players are to other other clubs. All on the whim of who the NRL feels is a marquee player.
snowman
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we should now go cap in hand for israel folau
**** some of these blokes like idris are precious. Wants a year off. Fugg me. Must be so tough living the life of a highly paid professional footballer. There's a 1000 hopefuls out there who'd give their right arm to be where he is.
Oh well, go and get a job now Jamal and see how you like working 38 hours a week for fifth of what your earning now.
HaroldBishop
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Not everything is about money. Bit rich to be judging someone when you have no idea what's going on in their personal life.
vicsharkfan
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Idris seems to have had issues his whole short career be it mental or physical..maybe a year off is exactly what is required...
**** i hate that argument "it must be so hard being rich and famous". Well **** yes it probably is.
Money. doesn't. buy. happiness.
These types of people can't even go to the shops to buy bread without being recognised, their entire public lives are open to everyone to see and they are scrutinised for the smallest of errors.
And these are only NRL players, most of them don't even get paid enough to not work for the rest of their lives.
It would be ****ing tough and like every other normal person, some of them aren't built to cope with the **** life throws at them.
Have some respect mate.
snowman
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imagine how fat the **** will get
Yeah I get where you and others are coming from. I don't really have time to go into it today (wrote about it here when they introduced it and I don't think many agreed with me then either) hence the short and slightly provocative post. But quickly (IMO):
- This discretionary fund is not about the cap but about competing with money from outside the code (i.e. union and maybe NFL)
- In the example mentioned above, Burgess get an offer from Bath RU or whoever of $1.3m
- NRL Clubs make their offers to Burgess - everyone can have a dip
- Whoever makes the highest bid without assistance - say its $1.1m from Penrith - sets the mark for the level of NRL topup which in that case would be $200k
- Now Burgess can choose between Souths' offer of $1m + the NRL's $200k = $1.2m and Penrith's offer of $1.1m + $200k = $1.3m.
- Assume he chooses Souths. They've got him for less that what Penrith offered but that's normal - happens all the time. They didn't get him because of any advantage - everyone had access to the $200k topup. The NRL essentially pay him an appearance fee to play in their league.
Obviously, none of that includes transfer fees which are an advantage for the wealthy Clubs or the fact that Burgess has a deal with Souths to go there if/when he returns (which I think would have to be voided for my version of this scheme to work).
As for who is marquee and who isn't, it should be a pretty straightforward test - does the player in question significantly improve the quality and value of the code as a whole? Signing say, Adam Ashley-Cooper (while a very good RU player) wouldn't add much to the NRL. Signing Folau obviously would. Preventing Ngani Luamape from going to rugby wouldn't be important, but keeping Karmichael Hunt would be.
And thats exactly how it should be used for.
Is that how it is though or is that purely your interpretation? I'm none the wiser in that regard.
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