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Some players wouldn't dare do a thing wrong to a coach they fear/respect - I reckon Morris was always looked at like the substitute teacher.

Poor form by Fifita and others but It's a real thing
Agreed but how much is it a knock on the coach vs a knock on the player.

If Fifita didn’t train properly because he didn’t respect the coach the club put in place he deserved to barely play any NRL, which is what happened.

He fucked himself over and club around just because of who the coach was, and yet still got pats on the back from fans in here saying what a good leader he is, all the other players must love playing with him and respect him.

Nobody in here would accept that from Woods so shouldn’t make excuses for Fifita either. Doesn’t erase past heroics from him but I’d rather him add to his career with sharks than in a positive way than just a dine off what his younger self achieved for another season.
 

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not really, we are paying a lot of money for a guy who is falling apart

I know, I was just teasing gumby a tiny bit. Although there’s also a part of me that hates when fans tell a player to medically retire, whether its just or not.

End of the day, that contract is the clubs fault, not his. If he’s got his heart set on playing on and trying to contribute then theres not much else to say about it.
 
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I know, I was just teasing gumby a tiny bit. Although there’s also a part of me that hates when fans tell a player to medically retire, whether its just or not.

End of the day, that contract is the clubs fault, not his. If he’s got his heart set on playing on and trying to contribute then theres not much else to say about it.
He can't contribute though, that's the problem.
 

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It is the point though. I'd like to think if someone can't contribute, and they're on big coin, and if there is a way to retire and still get paid, then they would take it.

That wasnt my point though. Fifita himself still thinks he can, even when the coaches are pushing him in the other direction like they allegedly did last year. Guess what? He’s still here. Because the club gave him that fourth year, the only opinion that seems to matter on this is Fifita’s.

Our opinion means diddly squat on this. I’ve always been slightly uncomfortable when fans are telling one of their players to medically retire and give up their livelihood, no big deal, just a little bug bear of mine.
 
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That wasnt my point though. Fifita himself still thinks he can, even when the coaches are pushing him in the other direction like they allegedly did last year. Guess what? He’s still here. Because the club gave him that fourth year, the only opinion that seems to matter on this is Fifita’s.

Our opinion means diddly squat on this. I’ve always been slightly uncomfortable when fans are telling one of their players to medically retire and give up their livelihood, no big deal, just a little bug bear of mine.
I mean our opinions always mean jack ****, but we are on a forum. Would be pretty boring in here if people didn't share them.
 
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That wasnt my point though. Fifita himself still thinks he can, even when the coaches are pushing him in the other direction like they allegedly did last year. Guess what? He’s still here. Because the club gave him that fourth year, the only opinion that seems to matter on this is Fifita’s.

Our opinion means diddly squat on this. I’ve always been slightly uncomfortable when fans are telling one of their players to medically retire and give up their livelihood, no big deal, just a little bug bear of mine.
Yep, like PS said, this is a forum. Probably not the right place for anyone if they think their opinion is going to change anything.

Btw, if you medically retire you get paid out in full, so your livelihood is not affected.
 

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I mean our opinions always mean jack ****, but we are on a forum. Would be pretty boring in here if people didn't share them.

Yeah true. I wasn’t trying to insinuate that we shouldn't. Although on reflection I guess my posts might of given off that impression. Whoops. :/ I’m sorry guys.

The crux of what I was trying to say that it looks like no one else’s opinion matters on this except Andrew’s himself because he has the security of that last year on his deal.
 
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Yeah true. I wasn’t trying to insinuate that we shouldn't. Although on reflection I guess my posts might of given off that impression. Whoops. :/ I’m sorry guys.

The crux of what I was trying to say that it looks like no one else’s opinion matters on this except Andrew’s himself because he has the security of that last year on his deal.
No need to apologise. I get your angle, but in both scenarios Andrew gets paid. Its more whether he genuinely believes he has something to offer on field. Not sure I can agree with that.
 

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That wasnt my point though. Fifita himself still thinks he can, even when the coaches are pushing him in the other direction like they allegedly did last year. Guess what? He’s still here. Because the club gave him that fourth year, the only opinion that seems to matter on this is Fifita’s.

Our opinion means diddly squat on this. I’ve always been slightly uncomfortable when fans are telling one of their players to medically retire and give up their livelihood, no big deal, just a little bug bear of mine.
I think HB is saying he'd like Fifita's opinion to be that if he can't contribute on the field, and can still get paid by medically retiring, he should feel that he should medically retire. To help the team
 

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Fifs can still contribute 15-20 mins or so (unless his body gets worse over the off/pre season) and the way our final bench spot often gets underplayed minutes wise anyway it's prob all we need from him

Picking him in the first place over Tolman or a utlity or whatever is a different conversation

BUT while he has struggled with his fitness in recent years and isn't the same player he used to be I am not of the opinion he is useless or that he hasn't had some decent moments on the field in recent seasons even while battling his body every step of the way

Could be a bit of a liability in defense but then so was Woods and he didn't have big fitness concerns to content with really
 
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