My gf who is family friends with the Kelly family brought up a great point to me. She asked me "what if Fifita was like you? Always trying to help those you know and not judging the people you are friends with despite their indiscretions. Look at your main mate... Your are so different, yet you love him as a mate despite his transgressions. You may not agree with what happened, but you support people in their dark times to help them be better". Obviously slightly ad hoc to what was said, but same feeling. Did Fifita actually do anything wrong from his point? Why are we pinning him for the death? He might just be like one of us everyday people trying to give hope to someone that made a really horrible mistake in life. I'm not religious. I don't know if Andrew is. But is it illegal to try and make someone better? At the end of the day, KL will be freed after his term. Maybe the term isn't long enough (it isn't for me...) but if it was my shoes, I wouldn't feel I did anything wrong making a note to myself or my friend with three letters on my arm for inspiration. No matter how much you go wrong in life, maybe there can be a purpose. I don't know KL and I really hate that someone can end someone's life in such a fashion. But did Andrew actually harm society? For me, he just felt he was connected enough to try and bring hope of rehabilitation. Maybe KL can start something good despite the senseless waste of life left in the wake of his actions. That is yet to be seen. The whole associating with criminal aspect is a horrible flaw in the NSW law. If I met a relative or friend in jail I'd hate it if I was pinged as a criminal associate. If my understanding is right, Andrew was his coach at one stage. Then who better to visit him and put him on the straight and narrow? Seems like the government and society gave up on the night. So how can we expect a better person when his term is up?