Official Andrew Fifita
- Thread starter Mark^Bastard
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Can you let him know that i thought he was good on "Anh's Brush with Fame".
slide rule
Jaws
Nice of you to say. Most people rate his stand up performance on The Footy Show as his best.
vicsharkfan
Jaws
Cool show that few times I've watched it...
I loved check 1-2... "MONA"
HaroldBishop
Megalodon
Mate you need to stop talking about music haha.
vicsharkfan
Jaws
He was more of a artist or a modern day wordsmith if you will, similar to our Chad than a musician, just painted the world a beautiful colour with his vocals and lyrics, up on a ute sitting on some hay bales while sporting a flanny.
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Not-So-Great White
Someone from work brought up an article written on Andrew today that said the same bloody thing they've been saying for the last few weeks.
I can't believe how much the media is riding with this story... well, I can but when will enough be enough? When he isn't playing NRL or when he necks himself?
Fifita is a few sandwiches short of a picnic and fairly young too. I don't see him as a bad guy, but he clearly has trouble dealing with the spotlight and what's expected of a person in his position.
The club and Andrew need to come out and say "We have spoken with Andrew and will be working exstensivly with him over the next few weeks with his welfare being held high in our regards".
I really think without a proper mentor program he may be one more indiscretion away from not playing with us or in the NRL.
I can't believe how much the media is riding with this story... well, I can but when will enough be enough? When he isn't playing NRL or when he necks himself?
Fifita is a few sandwiches short of a picnic and fairly young too. I don't see him as a bad guy, but he clearly has trouble dealing with the spotlight and what's expected of a person in his position.
The club and Andrew need to come out and say "We have spoken with Andrew and will be working exstensivly with him over the next few weeks with his welfare being held high in our regards".
I really think without a proper mentor program he may be one more indiscretion away from not playing with us or in the NRL.
evertonshark
Jaws
These knobs that keep writing crap about fifita probably have a bee in their bonnet that his salary dwarfs what they earn.
Interesting read
In February 2012 consorting laws in New South Wales were modernised as part of a suite of amendments designed
to assist police to tackle organised crime and criminal gangs. The Parliament acted in response to increased concern
about drive-by shootings. The controversial nature of the new consorting law was acknowledged by Parliament
in requiring the NSW Ombudsman to prepare this report about the first three years of the operation of the new
consorting law.
The new consorting law makes it a criminal offence for a person to continue to associate or communicate with people
who have been previously convicted of an indictable offence, after receiving an official police warning. The consorting
law aims to prevent criminal activity by disrupting or deterring associations that may lead to the building or continuation
of criminal networks.
Public concern about the operation of the new consorting law was reflected in consultations conducted by the
Ombudsman’s office and in the number of submissions we received expressing serious concern about the law
and calling for it to be amended or repealed. The central concern is that the consorting law may criminalise social
interactions in circumstances where there is no requirement for police to suspect any link between the consorting and
planning or undertaking criminal activity, organised or otherwise, or building criminal networks. The breadth of the new
consorting law means that the main constraint on its application is the sensible exercise of discretion by police officers.
In order to prepare this report we conducted state-wide consultations, a comprehensive analysis of police consorting
data, and published an issues paper that identified emerging issues and called for submissions.
During the review period police issued more than 9,000 consorting warnings and 46 charges for the offence of
consorting. Our review found qualitative evidence to support the effective use of the consorting law by the Gangs
Squad to target high-risk Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. However, this review also found evidence to indicate use by
officers attached to Local Area Commands in relation to a broad range of offending, including minor and nuisance
offending. The report details use of the consorting law in relation to disadvantaged and vulnerable people, including
Aboriginal people, people experiencing homelessness, and children and young people. In addition, this review found
an exceptionally high police error rate when issuing consorting warnings in relation to children and young people.
We found that although the NSW Police Force has used the consorting law to disrupt serious and organised crime
and criminal gangs as intended by Parliament, it has also used the consorting law in a manner that, to some extent,
illustrated public concerns about its operation.
I recommend that statutory and policy amendments are made to increase the fairness of the operation of the
consorting law, and to mitigate the unintended impacts of its operation on people in circumstances where there is no
crime prevention benefit, or where the crime that may be prevented is relatively minor.
I recommend the adoption of a new statutory and policy framework for use of the consorting law, to ensure its use
is focused on serious crime, is closely linked to crime prevention, and is not used in relation to minor offending such
as summary offending. This framework is consistent with the overarching intent of Parliament that the consorting law
adequately equips police to combat serious and organised crime and criminal groups.
Unless these changes are made it is likely that the consorting law will continue to be used to address policing issues
not connected to serious and organised crime and criminal gangs and in a manner that may impact unfairly on
disadvantaged and vulnerable people in our community. My view is that the implementation of these recommendations
is essential to maintain public confidence in the NSW Police Force and its use of the consorting law.
- Proffessor John McMillian AO
Acting Ombudsman April 2016
Seems even the Ombudsman realised that the Consorting law was being misused and abused by NSW Police in the majority of cases. 9000 issued, 46 offenses.
In February 2012 consorting laws in New South Wales were modernised as part of a suite of amendments designed
to assist police to tackle organised crime and criminal gangs. The Parliament acted in response to increased concern
about drive-by shootings. The controversial nature of the new consorting law was acknowledged by Parliament
in requiring the NSW Ombudsman to prepare this report about the first three years of the operation of the new
consorting law.
The new consorting law makes it a criminal offence for a person to continue to associate or communicate with people
who have been previously convicted of an indictable offence, after receiving an official police warning. The consorting
law aims to prevent criminal activity by disrupting or deterring associations that may lead to the building or continuation
of criminal networks.
Public concern about the operation of the new consorting law was reflected in consultations conducted by the
Ombudsman’s office and in the number of submissions we received expressing serious concern about the law
and calling for it to be amended or repealed. The central concern is that the consorting law may criminalise social
interactions in circumstances where there is no requirement for police to suspect any link between the consorting and
planning or undertaking criminal activity, organised or otherwise, or building criminal networks. The breadth of the new
consorting law means that the main constraint on its application is the sensible exercise of discretion by police officers.
In order to prepare this report we conducted state-wide consultations, a comprehensive analysis of police consorting
data, and published an issues paper that identified emerging issues and called for submissions.
During the review period police issued more than 9,000 consorting warnings and 46 charges for the offence of
consorting. Our review found qualitative evidence to support the effective use of the consorting law by the Gangs
Squad to target high-risk Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs. However, this review also found evidence to indicate use by
officers attached to Local Area Commands in relation to a broad range of offending, including minor and nuisance
offending. The report details use of the consorting law in relation to disadvantaged and vulnerable people, including
Aboriginal people, people experiencing homelessness, and children and young people. In addition, this review found
an exceptionally high police error rate when issuing consorting warnings in relation to children and young people.
We found that although the NSW Police Force has used the consorting law to disrupt serious and organised crime
and criminal gangs as intended by Parliament, it has also used the consorting law in a manner that, to some extent,
illustrated public concerns about its operation.
I recommend that statutory and policy amendments are made to increase the fairness of the operation of the
consorting law, and to mitigate the unintended impacts of its operation on people in circumstances where there is no
crime prevention benefit, or where the crime that may be prevented is relatively minor.
I recommend the adoption of a new statutory and policy framework for use of the consorting law, to ensure its use
is focused on serious crime, is closely linked to crime prevention, and is not used in relation to minor offending such
as summary offending. This framework is consistent with the overarching intent of Parliament that the consorting law
adequately equips police to combat serious and organised crime and criminal groups.
Unless these changes are made it is likely that the consorting law will continue to be used to address policing issues
not connected to serious and organised crime and criminal gangs and in a manner that may impact unfairly on
disadvantaged and vulnerable people in our community. My view is that the implementation of these recommendations
is essential to maintain public confidence in the NSW Police Force and its use of the consorting law.
- Proffessor John McMillian AO
Acting Ombudsman April 2016
Seems even the Ombudsman realised that the Consorting law was being misused and abused by NSW Police in the majority of cases. 9000 issued, 46 offenses.
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Not-So-Great White
In size too. I reckon because he is a big front row prop that it's easy to paint the "big, bad brute" picture. I honestly feel so bad for the guy.
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Not-So-Great White
Actually wouldn't even surprise me if he walked away from the game. He's played for the blues and Australia.. He's won Dally M's and a premiership. Would not surprise me at all.
If I were in his position I'd be gone.
It's easy for people to say that he should just ignore it, pull his head in and play through it but I could understand why at times he feels like the whole system is against him.
Not only the media but the police, the NRL, even some fellow players in the Australian team.
And what has he done to deserve it? There are ex players commenting on this that have reportedly done much worse than give a mouthful to a ref or support a criminal mate. Much worse! Hypocrites all over the place.
It's easy for people to say that he should just ignore it, pull his head in and play through it but I could understand why at times he feels like the whole system is against him.
Not only the media but the police, the NRL, even some fellow players in the Australian team.
And what has he done to deserve it? There are ex players commenting on this that have reportedly done much worse than give a mouthful to a ref or support a criminal mate. Much worse! Hypocrites all over the place.
Hypothetical,
Lets say this whole saga never happened. If Cam Smith or JT called up NRL HQ and said they wanted to go to a prison and talk to inmates and offer them some support.
How many camera crews would the NRL send to capture it, and would they commission bronze statues, or just go all out and use gold?
Lets say this whole saga never happened. If Cam Smith or JT called up NRL HQ and said they wanted to go to a prison and talk to inmates and offer them some support.
How many camera crews would the NRL send to capture it, and would they commission bronze statues, or just go all out and use gold?
Bundy Shark
Jaws
I'm starting to get Jack of this.
Surely the sharks or his manager are meeting with him to tell him how to conduct himself.
I love Fifs, he's a shark & a damn good one for us, 100% there is merit in what he is saying that he believes there are elements within RL that are out to make him look foolish, the problem is, up till now he has either been poorly advised or he's not getting any direction as to how to handle himself or dela with the germs who are after a story, good or bad at his expense & at the moment most are happy to run with the negative story.
But...........he isn't exactly helping himself much at the moment to he honest.
Its like there are parts of the media who on a quite news days see him as a go to man for a story, sort of like 'dial a quote' thing.
They give me a call, throw him a line, see how he answers the question & "wellah", they have a story & let the public ridicule or give their opinion on what he has said, from there, the public shake their heads at him or his comments & he's either loved within the Shark family or hated & bagged outside of the general NRL fraternity.
I realize getting the media smarts into him are not a quick fix buts surely the simple or short term solution is for him to say to anyone looking for his thoughts or asking questions is 'no comment thanks'
Surely the sharks or his manager are meeting with him to tell him how to conduct himself.
I love Fifs, he's a shark & a damn good one for us, 100% there is merit in what he is saying that he believes there are elements within RL that are out to make him look foolish, the problem is, up till now he has either been poorly advised or he's not getting any direction as to how to handle himself or dela with the germs who are after a story, good or bad at his expense & at the moment most are happy to run with the negative story.
But...........he isn't exactly helping himself much at the moment to he honest.
Its like there are parts of the media who on a quite news days see him as a go to man for a story, sort of like 'dial a quote' thing.
They give me a call, throw him a line, see how he answers the question & "wellah", they have a story & let the public ridicule or give their opinion on what he has said, from there, the public shake their heads at him or his comments & he's either loved within the Shark family or hated & bagged outside of the general NRL fraternity.
I realize getting the media smarts into him are not a quick fix buts surely the simple or short term solution is for him to say to anyone looking for his thoughts or asking questions is 'no comment thanks'
sharks2010
Dribbler
he came out at the start and said how he doesn't support what his mate did but just being there for a mate going through a tough time but it was in one ear and out the other with the media
BlackWhiteBlue
Jaws
she can be played by the guy from weekend at bernies now
I want to know why the club hasnt come out saying that all this media, NRL police pressure has put him on knifes edge, The club has brought in some mental health proffessionals and are closely working with him to help support him through this troubled time.
The guy was plastered on the papers a few years ago sufferring from depression. This way the club is on the front foot saying "Dont sink the boot into a guy when he is already down". The media and NRL would then have to tread very carefully about what sanctions and rubbish they write as they would risk crossing the line about a guy who already stated he suffers depression.
The guy was plastered on the papers a few years ago sufferring from depression. This way the club is on the front foot saying "Dont sink the boot into a guy when he is already down". The media and NRL would then have to tread very carefully about what sanctions and rubbish they write as they would risk crossing the line about a guy who already stated he suffers depression.
sharks2010
Dribbler
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...n/news-story/3decfdde7b5cb5329ba1509dadfd495b
Love your work flanno. Stand up to those ****s