AGM Thursday 20 March 2014

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its my understanding we are supposed to get 21 days notice, but have got 17? Can we call them out on this?

i also encourage people to vote against the board getting money, if the have enough money for a salary package, then they didnt need a manly fan taking the rights to our stadium
 

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I think you're being a bit sensitive there. By all means get up them at the AGM about the re-financing if you want but I don't see what that has to do with being paid? They have the right to be fairly remunerated for their work and I won't be opposing that.
 

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I think you're being a bit sensitive there. By all means get up them at the AGM about the re-financing if you want but I don't see what that has to do with being paid? They have the right to be fairly remunerated for their work and I won't be opposing that.

the previous board did it for the love of the club and the fact that we were financially stuffed. we are still financially stuffed, so your happy to part with about 400,000 per year to pay 7 directors and a chairman that have already been living the high life (along with their mates at games) at our expense since they came to power?

if we were financially stable, they wouldnt have needed to refinance the loan to some pizza guy.
 

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The members voted the previous board out remember. Can't expect everyone to do a job like that for free. Agree, 400k is a bit excessive but they still have a right to be paid.

Btw I have absolutely zero bias towards the old or new board just to clear that up.
 

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I will be voting a massive NO to this. I'll be gathering proxies as well.
 

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the previous board did it for the love of the club and the fact that we were financially stuffed. we are still financially stuffed, so your happy to part with about 400,000 per year to pay 7 directors and a chairman that have already been living the high life (along with their mates at games) at our expense since they came to power?

if we were financially stable, they wouldnt have needed to refinance the loan to some pizza guy.
was going to ask what kind of money it would cost... Kind of irks me a bit that they even ask for it given they of all people know the situation the club is, we still have on going matters Ffs that could cost us a fortune
 
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Can't wait to hear the justification by them For getting paid! No doubt Slothfield will be used like a puppet to spin their agenda again.

Still no sponsors but sure you can get paid???

Isnt hoyts paying very well?
 

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lets not get ahead of ourselves. the directors remuneration was there last agm as well from memory, and the one previously. they may be there to continue not be paid. i have my doubts though.

not sure if you can proxy vote though shark.
 

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Just on what 'fair' remuneration would be...

Some of these directors are doing nothing more than turning up to one meeting a month for less than two hours.

Anything more than $6K is ridiculous. That's $500 per meeting, or $250 per hour.

The chair probably deserves about $40K, at market rates. Given that the previous chair took NOTHING for four years, and did an outstanding job for 3 years and 11 months, I don't think it's right to be paying this current board anything near $400K, if that's what they are really asking for.
 

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Just on what 'fair' remuneration would be...

Some of these directors are doing nothing more than turning up to one meeting a month for less than two hours.

Anything more than $6K is ridiculous. That's $500 per meeting, or $250 per hour.

The chair probably deserves about $40K, at market rates. Given that the previous chair took NOTHING for four years, and did an outstanding job for 3 years and 11 months, I don't think it's right to be paying this current board anything near $400K, if that's what they are really asking for.

thats just a figure i made an estimate of their spending last year. with the amount of spending on game day servicing their mates drinking and eating habits, flying to away games and having junkets in melbourne that cost a fortune, 400k is around what they would have spent last year i estimated
 

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I think you're being a bit sensitive there. By all means get up them at the AGM about the re-financing if you want but I don't see what that has to do with being paid? They have the right to be fairly remunerated for their work and I won't be opposing that.

They have the right to be remunerated for their work? What work? What have they done? Apart from piss the NRL off.

We were in 3 million dollars of debt so we signed our ground off as security for a loan to a Manly fan.

We have to pay money for the refurbishment of the club.

If there is infact spare money at the club, they should not see a nickle of it
 

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They have the right to be remunerated for their work? What work? What have they done? Apart from piss the NRL off.

We were in 3 million dollars of debt so we signed our ground off as security for a loan to a Manly fan.

We have to pay money for the refurbishment of the club.

If there is infact spare money at the club, they should not see a nickle of it

Why does it matter the guy is a Manly fan? It's either a good deal or it's not I would have thought. Who cares which team he supports?

Whether you think they're doing their job well or not they still deserve to get paid director fees. There should be a remuneration structure in place, if they hit targets then they get bonuses, just like any other board.

They were voted in by members. If members aren't happy they should be voted out at the next opportunity.
 

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To be fair, the notice of that Ordinary Resolution has appeared in previous Notice of Annual General Meetings for many years.

However...

It has ALWAYS been the case that the Ordinary Resolution is published along with the Notice of Annual General Meeting - If memory serves me, it's actually a condition contained in the Act that it be advertised at the time of Notice.

This is how the Notice of Annual General Meeting was done (the correct way) in 2010.

NOTICE OF ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND LEAGUES CLUB LTD AND CONTROLLED ENTITIES
ABN 54 000 202 826


Notice is hereby given that the 53rd Annual General Meeting of the Members of the Cronulla-Sutherland Leagues Club Limited will beheld at the Club premises, Captain Cook Drive, Woolooware on Monday May 31st 2010 at 7.00pm.

Business to be transacted at the meeting will be as follows:


1. To confirm the minutes of the previous Annual General Meeting.


2. To receive and adopt the Annual Report of the Board of Directors.


3. To receive and adopt the Statement of Financial Performance and Statement of Financial Positions for the 2008/09 year and the

report of the Auditors thereon.

4. Confirmation of the appointment of the Auditors, BDO.


5. Resolutions –


ORDINARY RESOLUTION 1

“That pursuant to the Registered Clubs Act 1976, as amended, the members hereby approve and agree to the members of the Boardduring the period preceding the next Annual General Meeting receiving the following benefits and the members further acknowledgethat the benefits outlined in subparagraphs (a) to (g) are not available to members generally, but only to those members who are elected to the Board of Directors of the Club:

(a) reasonable meals and refreshments for each director in conjunction with each Board or Committee meeting;


(b) reasonable costs or expenses in relation to the professional development and education of Directors including:


(i) attending meetings of associations of which the Club is a member or Directors of the Club are members;


(ii) attending seminars, lectures, trade displays, organised study tours, fact finding tours and other similar events as may be

determined by the Board from time to time;

(iii) attending other registered clubs or gaming venues for the purpose of observing their facilities and methods of operation;


(iv) attending conference and training sessions in relation to their roles and responsibilities under the Registered Clubs Act,

the Corporations Act 2001 and any other relevant legislation;

(c) reasonable costs or expenses of attending functions whilst representing the Club with partners where appropriate;


(d) reasonable costs or expenses of travelling by either private or public transport to and from Directors’ or other duly constituted

meetings, held within the Club or elsewhere;

(e) reasonable costs or expenses in relation to such other duties including entertainment of special guests of the Club and other

promotional activities approved by the Board;

(f) reasonable costs or expenses in relation to the provision of uniforms and associated apparel for the use of each Director when

representing the Club;

(g) the provision of specially reserved parking spaces at the Club for Directors’ use when attending the Club to carry out their duties.”


ORDINARY RESOLUTION 2

“That pursuant to the Registered Clubs Act 1976, as amended, the members hereby approve and agree to the members of the Board
during the period preceding the next Annual General Meeting receiving Honorariums to the positions named and for the sums referredto below in respect of services rendered to the Club and the members further acknowledge that the Honorariums are not available tomembers generally, but only to those members who are elected to the Board of Directors of the Club:

(i) $Nil to the President


(ii) $Nil to each other Director.”


6. To transact any other business which has been lodged with the Secretary and due notice given to the members in accordance with
the Company’s Articles of Association.

7. General Business


8. Close of Meeting

The meeting will be open to members only and each member will be required to produce their current membership card to gain admission.

By Order of the Board
Brad Linsell
Acting General Manager
Dated: This 10th day of May 2010




NOTICE OF ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
18 CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND LEAGUES CLUB LIMITED & CONTROLLED ENTITIES ABN 54 000 202 826

FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31ST OCTOBER 2009 - NOTICE OF ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING (CONTINUED)CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND DISTRICT RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED
ABN 86 002 692 186

Notice is hereby given that the 53rd Annual General Meeting of the Members of the Cronulla-Sutherland District Rugby League
Football Club Limited will be held at the Cronulla-Sutherland Leagues Club Limited, Captain Cook Drive Woolooware on Monday
May 31st 2010 at 7.15pm.

Business to be transacted at the meeting will be as follows:


1. To confirm the minutes of the previous Annual General Meeting.


2. To receive and adopt the Annual Report of the Board of Directors.


3. To received and adopt the Statement of Financial Performance and Statement of Financial Position of the 2008/09 year
and report of the Auditors thereon.

4. Confirmation of the appointment of the Auditors, BDO.


5. Resolutions –


ORDINARY RESOLUTION 1


“That members hereby approve and agree to the members of the Board during the period preceding the next Annual General
Meeting receiving Honorariums to the positions named and for the sums referred to below in respect of services rendered tothe Club and the members further acknowledge that the Honorariums are not available to members generally, but only to thosemembers who are elected to the Board of Directors of the Club:

(iii) $Nil to the President


(iv) $Nil to each other Director.”


6. To transact any other business which has been lodged with the Secretary and due notice given to the Members in
accordance with the Company’s Articles of Association.

7. General Business.


8. Close of meeting.

The meeting will be open to members only and each member will be required to produce their current membership card to gain admission.

By Order of the Board

Diane Mott
Secretary
Dated: This 10th day of May 2010

Please note: Any questions relating to the financial accounts must be submitted in writing one week prior to the AGM.


How's all that expert governance going?
 

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I currently sit on an executive committee where the 7 members currently receive zippo. We do a **** load of running around as part of this committee and all do it in order to make sure that funds are not drained. Sure we would all love to be remunerated for the work we do but with 7 members on the board, it is very hard to ensure that all members do equal work for the pay they receive. If it was good enough for the previous board, while the club was doing it tough, its good enough for the current board... until they start living up to the promises they made when brought in to power.
 

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I'm not a defender of the current board at all, but is there any confirmation they are actually seeking payment given remuneration has been on the AGM agenda for several years and was a case of voting in support of the board members not being paid?

If I was ever in the position to serve I certainly wouldn't expect payment despite the skills I'd hope to bring having a reasonable dollar value. You'd sit on the board for a club suffering the financial problems Cronulla does for the love of the club surely.
 
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