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The attitude of some of these blokes is bizarre. Too many scouts and agents blowing smoke up their asses since when they were 15.

Just play where you can best help the team ffs.
I was about to make a similar comment. Some of them have heads so wide they couldn't get through the Luna Park Clown entrance. They all think they are going to be on a $1M per season and then whinge and complain when they're not playing the position they want. Some of these guys deadset need to be taken to some remote areas like in Africa etc to see how some people live. They are kidding themselves if they think they are hard done by.
 

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Yeah dunno but I can't see him wanting to stay on the wing for long. I didn't see their game on the weekend though.

I think he's fighting a losing battle with Flanno as coach, highly doubtful he'll be allowed to leave just as Hunt wasn't allowed.
Doing well and getting plaudits and pats on the back will make wing a lot more attractive.
If they start losing...
 
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Doing well and getting plaudits and pats on the back will make wing a lot more attractive.
If they start losing...
He is too good to be a long term winger but he you do what you have to. Dragons have a half decent team, and Flanno can coach. Prob wont make the 8 but who knows. I think depth is there major problem
 

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Flanno still reeling after getting screwed over by Bird and Holmes bailing as he attempted to mount a second premiership charge, no more nice guy.

When a player asks for a release now, he's like yea nah the only other team you gunna go to while I'm here and your on contract is the reserve grade one so suck it up. Gotta respect that, he knows what he wants to build and the culture and loyalty he wants to establish to the club, team mates and fans.

As for Lomax, should be no where near Origin IMO - needs to show some consistency at least first, he's been massively over rated based on last few seasons of performances.
 

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Flanno still reeling after getting screwed over by Bird and Holmes bailing as he attempted to mount a second premiership charge, no more nice guy.

When a player asks for a release now, he's like yea nah the only other team you gunna go to while I'm here and your on contract is the reserve grade one so suck it up. Gotta respect that, he knows what he wants to build and the culture and loyalty he wants to establish to the club, team mates and fans.

As for Lomax, should be no where near Origin IMO - needs to show some consistency at least first, he's been massively over rated based on last few seasons of performances.

I wasn't saying he should play origin, just that he has no hope at centre.
 

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Thurston blowing up deluxe about Leinu getting off lightly.

I have 2 words for JT

Coffs Harbour.
If the end game for the NRL Aboriginal community is to stamp out perceived racism (or at least derogatory, offensive remarks), surely a better tactic would be for NRL Aboriginal greats to reflect more on education and awareness - not cry foul for the length of punishment.

Put it this way, I think a legend of the game (and strong media personality) like Thurston would have done a lot more to educate the non-Aboriginal community by saying something like:

"I'm sure Spencer didn't set out to personally insult Ezra or the Greater Aboriginal community. This was a poor error of judgment in the heat of the battle which will be dealt with by the NRL"

What we can all take from this is that the word used is a highly offensive term because of .....

Let's use this opportunity to come together as a game and people and support every culture....."
 

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If the end game for the NRL Aboriginal community is to stamp out perceived racism (or at least derogatory, offensive remarks), surely a better tactic would be for NRL Aboriginal greats to reflect more on education and awareness - not cry foul for the length of punishment.

Put it this way, I think a legend of the game (and strong media personality) like Thurston would have done a lot more to educate the non-Aboriginal community by saying something like:

"I'm sure Spencer didn't set out to personally insult Ezra or the Greater Aboriginal community. This was a poor error of judgment in the heat of the battle which will be dealt with by the NRL"

What we can all take from this is that the word used is a highly offensive term because of .....

Let's use this opportunity to come together as a game and people and support every culture....."
I agree.
 
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If the end game for the NRL Aboriginal community is to stamp out perceived racism (or at least derogatory, offensive remarks), surely a better tactic would be for NRL Aboriginal greats to reflect more on education and awareness - not cry foul for the length of punishment.

Put it this way, I think a legend of the game (and strong media personality) like Thurston would have done a lot more to educate the non-Aboriginal community by saying something like:

"I'm sure Spencer didn't set out to personally insult Ezra or the Greater Aboriginal community. This was a poor error of judgment in the heat of the battle which will be dealt with by the NRL"

What we can all take from this is that the word used is a highly offensive term because of .....

Let's use this opportunity to come together as a game and people and support every culture....."
Missed opportunity? We seem to be adept at those when it comes to racism etc. Cant please everyone though.
Either way its not what the game and the country needs right now.
 

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JWH apparently played for Rooster's NSW cup team this weekend.

How does that work? He was suspended for Rd 1, shouldn't matter that the Vegas game was a week ago surely?
 

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I would actually prefer players be able to play reserve grade in the final week of any suspension from first grade imo.
 

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JWH apparently played for Rooster's NSW cup team this weekend.

How does that work? He was suspended for Rd 1, shouldn't matter that the Vegas game was a week ago surely?
Suspensions are for matches - not weeks.

Missed the round 1 NRL match. Was eligible for the next game, which happened to be NSW Cup round 1.

Exception would performance enhancing drugs, which are based on dates rather than fixtures.

I would actually prefer players be able to play reserve grade in the final week of any suspension from first grade imo.
I think that would be a useful rule. Maybe for a 4+ week NRL suspension you could return in Cup the week prior.
 

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Suspensions are for matches - not weeks.

Missed the round 1 NRL match. Was eligible for the next game, which happened to be NSW Cup round 1.

Exception would performance enhancing drugs, which are based on dates rather than fixtures.

Ahh okay 👍

I imagine protocols in place to stop clubs abusing system in the opposite manner however?


I would actually prefer players be able to play reserve grade in the final week of any suspension from first grade imo.

Yeah I have no issue with him playing, just curious how the rules worked.
 

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If the end game for the NRL Aboriginal community is to stamp out perceived racism (or at least derogatory, offensive remarks), surely a better tactic would be for NRL Aboriginal greats to reflect more on education and awareness - not cry foul for the length of punishment.

Put it this way, I think a legend of the game (and strong media personality) like Thurston would have done a lot more to educate the non-Aboriginal community by saying something like:

"I'm sure Spencer didn't set out to personally insult Ezra or the Greater Aboriginal community. This was a poor error of judgment in the heat of the battle which will be dealt with by the NRL"

What we can all take from this is that the word used is a highly offensive term because of .....

Let's use this opportunity to come together as a game and people and support every culture....."

There will always been offensive/racist remarks made on sporting fields and society in general - it's unrealistic to expect you can completely stamp it out and frankly some people need to take responsibility for their own sensitivity of being habitually offended, exaggerations or misinterpretations.

I mean I grew up and work in South West Sydney ffs lol

Not saying this relates to Erza not having a right to feel genuinely insulted and disappointed in this instance but Spencer doesn't need to be dragged too much over the coals for this either and has offered to apologise for something said heat of the moment.

Rule enforcement and compliance is not an effective motivator or behavioral modifier but I get why the NRL has to be seen to be making a stand and setting an example.

Punishment as a form of deterrent or post infringement justice does play a role and I also understand you can't just let people do what they want without consequences or society falls apart.

As an example a shitload of people still ignore the road rules and drive like numptys despite fines and loss of license/job ect. being a threat and alot of them are repeat offenders. It's human nature to straddle the line and discard restraint but the system of safety is based around rule compliance more than improving driver skills and culture.

Ofcourse there will always also be people that just don't know any better.
 
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Flanno still reeling after getting screwed over by Bird and Holmes bailing as he attempted to mount a second premiership charge, no more nice guy.

When a player asks for a release now, he's like yea nah the only other team you gunna go to while I'm here and your on contract is the reserve grade one so suck it up. Gotta respect that, he knows what he wants to build and the culture and loyalty he wants to establish to the club, team mates and fans.

As for Lomax, should be no where near Origin IMO - needs to show some consistency at least first, he's been massively over rated based on last few seasons of performances.
He is going to panic buy Josh Dugan again
 

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There will always been offensive/racist remarks made on sporting fields and society in general - it's unrealistic to expect you can completely stamp it out and frankly some people need to take responsibility for their own sensitivity of being habitually offended, exaggerations or misinterpretations.

I mean I grew up and work in South West Sydney ffs lol

Not saying this relates to Erza not having a right to feel genuinely insulted and disappointed in this instance but Spencer doesn't need to be dragged too much over the coals for this either and has offered to apologise for something said heat of the moment.

Rule enforcement and compliance is not an effective motivator or behavioral modifier and I get why the NRL has to be seen to be making a stand and setting an example.

Punishment as a form of deterrent or post infringement justice does play a role and I also understand you can't just let people do what they want without consequences or society falls apart.

As an example a shitload of people still ignore the road rules and drive like numptys despite fines and loss of license/job ect. being a threat and alot of them are repeat offenders. It's human nature to straddle the line and discard restraint but the system of safety is based around rule compliance more than improving driver skills and culture.

Ofcourse there will always also be people that just don't know any better.

Agree.

And please don't call me a Numpty!
 

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What would happen if someone dropped the ball and was called a Goose

"Ref, Ref - he called me a Goose. I want to make an official complaint"

I'm pretty sure the word Goose hasn't been attributed as a racial term but who knows???
 
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