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LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 20 (Nikora - 3, Katoa - 2, Ramien - 1)

1st: Briton Nikora: 21
2nd: William Kennedy: 20.5
3rd: Nicho Hynes: 12
4th: Blayke Brailey: 10
5th: Siosifa Talakai: 7
6th Braydon Trindall: 6.5
7th: Sione Katoa: 6
8th: Braden Hamlin-Uele: 4
=9th: Ronaldo Mulitalo: 3
=9th: Matt Moylan: 3
=11th: Tom Hazelton: 2
=11th: Connor Tracey: 2
=11th: Cameron McInnes: 2
=14th: Jack Williams: 1
=14th: Jesse Ramien: 1

LEAD CHANGE. Nikora hits top spot by half a point over Kennedy. Also despite only polling 7 votes this round, I have to say welcome to the leaderboard Jesse Ramien.
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I am still surprised that tricky is still in 6th place having not played since 3rd round
 
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MEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 21 (Kennedy - 3, Ramien - 2, McInnes - 1)

1st: William Kennedy: 23.5
2nd: Briton Nikora: 21
3rd: Nicho Hynes: 12
4th: Blayke Brailey: 10
5th: Siosifa Talakai: 7
6th Braydon Trindall: 6.5
7th: Sione Katoa: 6
8th: Braden Hamlin-Uele: 4
=9th: Ronaldo Mulitalo: 3
=9th: Matt Moylan: 3
=9th: Cameron McInnes: 3
=9th: Jesse Ramien: 3
=13th: Tom Hazelton: 2
=13th: Connor Tracey: 2
=15th: Jack Williams: 1

LEAD CHANGE ALERT: Nikora’s lead only lasts one week as Kennedy heads back to the top.

WOMEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 1 (Johnston - 3, Dodd - 2, Anderson - 1)

1st: Ellie Johnston: 3
2nd: Quincy Dodd: 2
3rd: Brooke Anderson: 1

Look we’ll see how this goes as the season progresses depending on the volume of responses in the 3-2-1 threads.

The tower of strength that is Ellie Johnston is our inaugural leader of the Women’s leaderboard.
 
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CrazyMatt said:
MEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 21 (Kennedy - 3, Ramien - 2, McInnes - 1)

1st: William Kennedy: 23.5
2nd: Briton Nikora: 21
3rd: Nicho Hynes: 12
4th: Blayke Brailey: 10
5th: Siosifa Talakai: 7
6th Braydon Trindall: 6.5
7th: Sione Katoa: 6
8th: Braden Hamlin-Uele: 4
=9th: Ronaldo Mulitalo: 3
=9th: Matt Moylan: 3
=9th: Cameron McInnes: 3
=9th: Jesse Ramien: 3
=13th: Tom Hazelton: 2
=13th: Connor Tracey: 2
=15th: Jack Williams: 1

LEAD CHANGE ALERT: Nikora’s lead only lasts one week as Kennedy heads back to the top.

WOMEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 1 (Johnston - 3, Dodd - 2, Anderson - 1)

1st: Ellie Johnston: 3
2nd: Quincy Dodd: 2
3rd: Brooke Anderson: 1

Look we’ll see how this goes as the season progresses depending on the volume of responses in the 3-2-1 threads.

The tower of strength that is Ellie Johnston is our inaugural leader of the Women’s leaderboard.
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I reckon you might start getting more responses for the NRLW team than the NRL team going forward
 
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CrazyMatt said:
MEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 21 (Kennedy - 3, Ramien - 2, McInnes - 1)

1st: William Kennedy: 23.5
2nd: Briton Nikora: 21
3rd: Nicho Hynes: 12
4th: Blayke Brailey: 10
5th: Siosifa Talakai: 7
6th Braydon Trindall: 6.5
7th: Sione Katoa: 6
8th: Braden Hamlin-Uele: 4
=9th: Ronaldo Mulitalo: 3
=9th: Matt Moylan: 3
=9th: Cameron McInnes: 3
=9th: Jesse Ramien: 3
=13th: Tom Hazelton: 2
=13th: Connor Tracey: 2
=15th: Jack Williams: 1

LEAD CHANGE ALERT: Nikora’s lead only lasts one week as Kennedy heads back to the top.

WOMEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 1 (Johnston - 3, Dodd - 2, Anderson - 1)

1st: Ellie Johnston: 3
2nd: Quincy Dodd: 2
3rd: Brooke Anderson: 1

Look we’ll see how this goes as the season progresses depending on the volume of responses in the 3-2-1 threads.

The tower of strength that is Ellie Johnston is our inaugural leader of the Women’s leaderboard.
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I'm so proud of my future wife.
 
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MEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 22 (McInnes - 3, Hazelton - 2, Williams - 1)

1st: William Kennedy: 23.5
2nd: Briton Nikora: 21
3rd: Nicho Hynes: 12
4th: Blayke Brailey: 10
5th: Siosifa Talakai: 7
6th Braydon Trindall: 6.5
=7th: Sione Katoa: 6
=7th: Cameron McInnes: 6
=9th: Braden Hamlin-Uele: 4
=9th: Tom Hazelton: 4
=11th: Ronaldo Mulitalo: 3
=11th: Matt Moylan: 3
=11th: Jesse Ramien: 3
=14th: Connor Tracey: 2
=14th: Jack Williams: 2

With Kennedy now gone for the year its safe to say Nikora has moved into ultra favouritism. Hynes is probably the only one close enough to catch him at this stage.

WOMEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 2 (Biddle - 3, Johnston - 2, Butler - 0.25, Penitani - 0.25, Holmes - 0.25, Anderson - 0.25)

1st: Ellie Johnston: 5
2nd: Annessa Biddle: 3
3rd: Quincy Dodd: 2
4th: Brooke Anderson: 1.25
=5th: Harata Butler: 0.25
=5th: Tiana Penitani: 0.25
=5th: Talei Holmes: 0.25

Welcome to the leaderboard Biddle, Butler, Penitani and Holmes.
 
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MEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 23 (Trindall - 3, Katoa - 2, Hiroti - 1)

1st: William Kennedy: 23.5
2nd: Briton Nikora: 21
3rd: Nicho Hynes: 12
4th: Blayke Brailey: 10
5th Braydon Trindall: 9.5
6th: Sione Katoa: 8
7th: Siosifa Talakai: 7
8th: Cameron McInnes: 6
=9th: Braden Hamlin-Uele: 4
=9th: Tom Hazelton: 4
=11th: Ronaldo Mulitalo: 3
=11th: Matt Moylan: 3
=11th: Jesse Ramien: 3
=14th: Connor Tracey: 2
=14th: Jack Williams: 2
16th: Mawene Hiroti: 1

Some movement mid table with Trindall in a position to make a late charge to the podium. Welcome to the leaderboard Hiroti.

WOMEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 23 (Johnston - 3, Biddle - 2, Robinson: 1)

1st: Ellie Johnston: 8
2nd: Annessa Biddle: 5
3rd: Quincy Dodd: 2
4th: Brooke Anderson: 1.25
5th: Andie Robinson: 1
=6th: Harata Butler: 0.25
=6th: Tiana Penitani: 0.25
=6th: Talei Holmes: 0.25

Johnston extends her lead. Welcome to the leaderboard Andie.
 
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CrazyMatt said:
MEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 21 (Kennedy - 3, Ramien - 2, McInnes - 1)

1st: William Kennedy: 23.5
2nd: Briton Nikora: 21
3rd: Nicho Hynes: 12
4th: Blayke Brailey: 10
5th: Siosifa Talakai: 7
6th Braydon Trindall: 6.5
7th: Sione Katoa: 6
8th: Braden Hamlin-Uele: 4
=9th: Ronaldo Mulitalo: 3
=9th: Matt Moylan: 3
=9th: Cameron McInnes: 3
=9th: Jesse Ramien: 3
=13th: Tom Hazelton: 2
=13th: Connor Tracey: 2
=15th: Jack Williams: 1

LEAD CHANGE ALERT: Nikora’s lead only lasts one week as Kennedy heads back to the top.

WOMEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 1 (Johnston - 3, Dodd - 2, Anderson - 1)

1st: Ellie Johnston: 3
2nd: Quincy Dodd: 2
3rd: Brooke Anderson: 1

Look we’ll see how this goes as the season progresses depending on the volume of responses in the 3-2-1 threads.

The tower of strength that is Ellie Johnston is our inaugural leader of the Women’s leaderboard.
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How does a bloke that polls the most votes in OWB votes, poll 4th in the season voting by the same group of people?

Was close to beat on ground Vs Titans tonight
 
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How does a bloke that polls the most votes in OWB votes, poll 4th in the season voting by the same group of people?

Was close to beat on ground Vs Titans tonight
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Because OWB doesn't mean we think he's ****, it means we know he's capable of more.
 
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Milkshark said:
The 3,2,1 should only be voted on who you thought were the best 3 players. If you’re giving players votes for any other reason, it makes the result at the end of the year rubbish.
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Following on from what Milky said in Tricky's thread (moving to allow Tricky to stay on topic, as much as we ever do...)
More of a general comment than specific to what you said anyway Milk

Issue is there are so many different ways to interpret a 3-2-1, and many ways to evaluate players

Were they the best 3 overall, or by their own standards/contract value?

Do you we factor in other circumstances or purely that game as a stand alone?

Is it the 'best player' on the park, or the one who did their job the best? Most on here would say Williams is in our top 3 most consistent forwards this season, but has 2 votes for the year. Week to week consistency isn't a very relevant measure in 3-2-1, but for a bloke we can identify as going really well this season the final table won't reflect that.

It muddies it a bit, but at the end of the day if vast majority are trying to vote with their legitimate interpretation then you should get an understandable result. It's not an issue if one bloke thought one of the wingers went really well, or why they thought that.

Personally I haven't voted for a while, I find it hard to not to keep saying 'but what about...' to myself, and whittling down to just 3. Especially with people playing quite different roles.

How do you assign points? To break down to just one play, our first try
  1. BHU quick PTB
  2. Blayke runs, passed to Tracy who passes (he can't!) to Nikora, who offloads back to Blayke, who passes back to Tracey who uses dummy and footwork to get a quick PTB
  3. Blayke hits Hynes who runs about 10m using Wade as a good decoy line and his own run threat to engage marker, A and B defender as well as hold up trailing FB (relevant as he ends up tackling Ronnie just after he scores)
  4. Hynes goes out back to Trindall, B defender has to try and make up ground which gets C defender turned all around trying to decide if he needs to go at Trindall or Talakai and ends up stranded between the 2
  5. Trindall uses the outside position Hynes/Wade created well to keep the stranded C defender (centre) engaged, pulling the last man (winger) in on Talakai, passes the ball to him where Talakai could near barge over himself, or...
  6. Talakai executes an exceptional quick pass straight to Ronnie who is unmarked
  7. Ronnie basically falls over the line (under a little pressure from fullback) but at the end of the day only him putting the ball down equals points on the board
Depending on what you value and how you assess 3-2-1 distribution there are loads of players through here who did their job very well.
And a couple plays earlier what got McInnes on the front foot to get Blayke helping BHU to a quick PTB?
A crabbing tackle breaking run from Sione Katoa. If he doesn't run as well there that set maybe doesn't get us off to the first try of the game.

Tldr; hard pick few player did best when many player do good
 
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bort said:
Following on from what Milky said in Tricky's thread (moving to allow Tricky to stay on topic, as much as we ever do...)
More of a general comment than specific to what you said anyway Milk

Issue is there are so many different ways to interpret a 3-2-1, and many ways to evaluate players

Were they the best 3 overall, or by their own standards/contract value?

Do you we factor in other circumstances or purely that game as a stand alone?

Is it the 'best player' on the park, or the one who did their job the best? Most on here would say Williams is in our top 3 most consistent forwards this season, but has 2 votes for the year. Week to week consistency isn't a very relevant measure in 3-2-1, but for a bloke we can identify as going really well this season the final table won't reflect that.

It muddies it a bit, but at the end of the day if vast majority are trying to vote with their legitimate interpretation then you should get an understandable result. It's not an issue if one bloke thought one of the wingers went really well, or why they thought that.

Personally I haven't voted for a while, I find it hard to not to keep saying 'but what about...' to myself, and whittling down to just 3. Especially with people playing quite different roles.

How do you assign points? To break down to just one play, our first try
  1. BHU quick PTB
  2. Blayke runs, passed to Tracy who passes (he can't!) to Nikora, who offloads back to Blayke, who passes back to Tracey who uses dummy and footwork to get a quick PTB
  3. Blayke hits Hynes who runs about 10m using Wade as a good decoy line and his own run threat to engage marker, A and B defender as well as hold up trailing FB (relevant as he ends up tackling Ronnie just after he scores)
  4. Hynes goes out back to Trindall, B defender has to try and make up ground which gets C defender turned all around trying to decide if he needs to go at Trindall or Talakai and ends up stranded between the 2
  5. Trindall uses the outside position Hynes/Wade created well to keep the stranded C defender (centre) engaged, pulling the last man (winger) in on Talakai, passes the ball to him where Talakai could near barge over himself, or...
  6. Talakai executes an exceptional quick pass straight to Ronnie who is unmarked
  7. Ronnie basically falls over the line (under a little pressure from fullback) but at the end of the day only him putting the ball down equals points on the board
Depending on what you value and how you assess 3-2-1 distribution there are loads of players through here who did their job very well.
And a couple plays earlier what got McInnes on the front foot to get Blayke helping BHU to a quick PTB?
A crabbing tackle breaking run from Sione Katoa. If he doesn't run as well there that set maybe doesn't get us off to the first try of the game.

Tldr; hard pick few player did best when many player do good
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Overthinking at it's best.

Translation:

Just pick your best three players and don't give a **** about what anyone else thinks. End of story.
 
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MEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 24 (Trindall - 3, Brailey - 2, Ramien - 1)

1st: William Kennedy: 23.5
2nd: Briton Nikora: 21
3rd Braydon Trindall: 12.5
=4th: Nicho Hynes: 12
=4th: Blayke Brailey: 12
6th: Sione Katoa: 8
7th: Siosifa Talakai: 7
8th: Cameron McInnes: 6
=9th: Braden Hamlin-Uele: 4
=9th: Tom Hazelton: 4
=9th: Jesse Ramien: 4
=12th: Ronaldo Mulitalo: 3
=12th: Matt Moylan: 3
=14th: Connor Tracey: 2
=14th: Jack Williams: 2
16th: Mawene Hiroti: 1

So um…. Trindalls on the podium guys.


WOMEN’S LEADERBOARD AFTER ROUND 4 (Wheeler - 3, Biddle - 2, Tonegato: 1)

1st: Ellie Johnston: 8
2nd: Annessa Biddle: 7
3rd: Holli Wheeler: 3
4th: Quincy Dodd: 2
5th: Brooke Anderson: 1.25
=6th: Andie Robinson: 1
=6th: Emma Tonegato: 1
=8th: Harata Butler: 0.25
=8th: Tiana Penitani: 0.25
=8th: Talei Holmes: 0.25

Welcome to the leaderboard Holli Wheeler.
 
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