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I thought you used to be able to miss one trial with suspensions
 

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Yeah apparently wanted to make a point about the size of the fine. Parra supported him.
I'll show the NRL and their new rule about paying a fine instead of serving a suspension...

Would he have made the same point if it happened a week earlier?
 

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Penrith have earned the right to act however they want in victory. Personally I'd be a little more humble but each to their own. Only 1 way to shut em up.

I don't think you earn the right to be a knob - to the Panthers it just comes naturally

I don’t mind it tbh. They’re a basket case, why wouldn’t you point it out? He’s done them a favour signing with them. I’m sure he’ll play his ass off, but now it’s up to them to actually build a team around him, which they probably won’t do

Tigers - First day of pre-season: Sorry API we have decided we don't what your negative and sarcastic attitude at our highly successful and definitely not toxic cultured Tigers club. We are building something special here and have alot of quality players to cover your absence.

API: Hahahahaha, nahz serioz bruhs where's my training shirt? lolz you funnyz man
They should let players serve suspensions in retirement.

Adrian Morley has almost finished serving his
 
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I'd be fuming if I was the Eels/Eels fans - to choose a 3 game suspension over $4k when you're on 600k plus shows a lack of commitment to your team. They're losing some significant talent next year, and we saw how close the Top 4 or Top 8 is and every win matters.

The "If you do something wrong at work, they don’t take money off you." excuse was an odd one. You also dont get suspended, and are playing a professional sport so comparing it to an every day job is ridiculous.

Showed he was all about the money when he left the Tigers so nothing has changed.
 

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I'd be fuming if I was the Eels/Eels fans - to choose a 3 game suspension over $4k when you're on 600k plus shows a lack of commitment to your team. They're losing some significant talent next year, and we saw how close the Top 4 or Top 8 is and every win matters.

The "If you do something wrong at work, they don’t take money off you." excuse was an odd one. You also dont get suspended, and are playing a professional sport so comparing it to an every day job is ridiculous.

Showed he was all about the money when he left the Tigers so nothing has changed.

If be fuming of any of my players copped a serve from Aaron Woods and deserved it
 

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Imagine if you got caught speeding and were given the option of a 1 month license suspension or keep your license but pay a $4000 fine - it would be considered almost like blackmail.

Of course it doesn't work like that and you cop demerits/suspension in combination with a fine. Both are mandatory there is no choice or option - same as it should be with NRL.

Giving players/club an option is bizarre. Imagine if he was a player on minimum wage and couldn't afford the fine but the club really need that player to take the field for them. Are the club going to reimburse the player under the table to pay the fine?

As for those panthers players are they getting drug tested like Benny Barba did after the Grand Final which ultimately cost him his footy career and us a gun fullback? Surely one of those panthers was inhaling some fairy dust...
 
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Agree with Gards – fines for in-game issues punish lesser known players a lot more than stars on big contracts. Doesn't seem fair at all.
 

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Agree with Gards – fines for in-game issues punish lesser known players a lot more than stars on big contracts. Doesn't seem fair at all.

Even if it were scaled in-line with a players salary I still wouldn't like it
 

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DRAGQUEENS - What a Team
I can see Flanno heading there
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The 27 no-shows at Dragons presentation night raise more concerns over Griffin’s reign​

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October 7, 2022 — 5.00am
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The noise around Anthony Griffin keeps getting louder. The coach is safe ... for now.
The no-show from 27 of the top 30 NRL players at Tuesday night’s end-of-season club presentation at Pyrmont’s Doltone House speaks volumes to the narrative that St George Illawarra is an unhappy camp.



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The club will brush it off as a simple scheduling mishap, even though the players were told of the presentation night around six weeks ago.
“We had to wait until the completion of the NRLW season to make sure everyone had the opportunity to celebrate their seasons,” Dragons chief executive Ryan Webb said.

“When you do this it meant our men’s team were three to four weeks into their leave period so many had gone on their holidays. It’s a tricky situation for a lot of clubs with both NRL and NRLW teams will have to work out a solution for.”
It’s a valid argument that many players are now off-duty and have taken some well-deserved time off to go on holidays before returning to training on November 7. Some are on the other side of the globe preparing for the Rugby League World Cup.
Ben Hunt has a strong relationship with Dragons coach Anthony Griffin.

Ben Hunt has a strong relationship with Dragons coach Anthony Griffin.CREDIT:NRL PHOTOS
However, the Herald has been told many were at home and chose against attending an event that is a requirement of employment at most clubs in the NRL. Most of the club’s NRLW squad were there.
Only Zac Lomax, fringe first-grader Michael Molo and the winner of the club’s player of the year award, Ben Hunt, were in attendance from the NRL squad. It wasn’t a requirement to attend.
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Although it gives an insight into an unrest within the camp. It comes as young guns Jayden Sullivan and Tyrell Sloan are demanding releases to the Bulldogs and Dolphins respectively.
Sloan, in his release request, stated that he wasn’t enjoying the environment and couldn’t see it improving. The Dragons, like they are expected to with Sullivan, rejected his request. The latest request from Sullivan comes as a direct result of Hunt’s re-signing on Wednesday, blocking the youngster’s path.
It has been a long season for St George Illawarra Dragons fans.

It has been a long season for St George Illawarra Dragons fans.CREDIT:GETTY
The Dragons have gone all-in on Hunt. His form in 2022 was the best since he arrived at the club, who have parted ways with close to $6 million over the past five seasons for one finals series, in 2018, during that time. Outside of that, the club has finished 15th, 11th, 12th and 10th with Hunt at halfback.
Calls for Hunt to move to hooker, where he has dominated for Queensland and been selected by Kangaroos coach Mal Meninga for this month’s World Cup, have fallen on deaf ears.

The late-season clean-out of Griffin’s assistant coaches Mat Head and Peter Gentle, wreaks of a coach under pressure maneuvering to delay what seems like the inevitable.
One can hardly blame Griffin for looking over his shoulder, especially considering the Herald’s revelations in August that a particular Dragons director reached out to Cameron Ciraldo’s representatives last month to gauge his appetite in taking over from Griffin in the not too distant future.
Ben Hunt with wife Bridget at last week’s Dally M awards.

Ben Hunt with wife Bridget at last week’s Dally M awards.CREDIT:GETTY
Griffin was signed at the start of 2020 as Paul McGregor’s replacement because of Griffin’s acute focus on defence and discipline during his time at the Broncos and Panthers.
This year, St George Illawarra missed more tackles than any other club (938), averaging four more missed tackles per game than wooden-spooners the Wests Tigers. They are conceding almost four points per game more than they did with McGregor at the helm.

As for the emphasis on discipline, the Dragons finished the year with the most sin bins and send-offs in the NRL with 12 players spending time on the sideline mid-game.

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Not to mention the complete disregard for the coach’s instructions in the hours leading up the infamous ‘BBQ-gate’ scandal at Paul Vaughan’s house last year.
When it comes to junior development, the Sullivan and Sloan issue is glaring. Griffin debuted only Michael Molo and gave a 29-year-old Jonathon Reuben a single game in 2022. He did stick with Talatau Amone through some lean patches, and Cody Ramsey showed some green shoots at fullback later in the season.
A criticism of Griffin from some of those who have worked with him is a tendency to wipe players, rather than educate and improve them, once he sees a significant weakness or deficiency in their game.

The Dragons are applying the opposite approach when it comes to the coach. They’re giving him the time and resources to improve as a coach, despite the club finding itself in an all too familiar predicament praying for the tide to turn.
 
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