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Capital_Shark said:
It's not the same. I can spot a black fella, if I call him the N-word it's a hateful racist insult pointed right at him because of the colour of his skin, no doubt about it. As far as I'm aware gay doesn't have any distinguishing physical features (except Mitch Moses looks like a lesbian). Unless I know you're gay it's just a poor choice of word not a homophobic attack. As I said substitute "******" for "soft ****" no one bats an eye, substitute "black ****" for N-word you're not making things better.

Why do you require to know all the gay players? Can't they just keep their private lives private? Should everyone disclose their sexual orientation upon signing an NRL contract?

I don't believe a gay player would receive a shitstorm of media & hate in 2022 mate. Matt Checcin didn't & he was a ref so already hated. Roberts wasn't shunned from the game 30yrs ago. I was young when Roberts came out but he's basically been a hero since.

If a gay player were to come out publicly fine, good on him. If they choose not to that's okay too. NRLW SoO a yr or 2 back ended with opposition players having a pash and no one gave a toss. I don't think being gay is the big taboo you make out.
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You have to think how f****t is used, that you're 'less' if you are one. That's hateful and discrimatory and perpetuates the idea that gay, black or whatever other downcast group you're insulting (n****r has a slave or lower evolutionary person connotation in it's use unless you're black and reclaiming it) are beneath you. That can't be okay.

The NRL have to stop it for so many reasons. Litigious, community, international... it's a minefield for their growth... and it's wrong.
I'm glad they're taking a stance, though a 4 game ban doesn't feel like a logical punishment. It hurts the team more than the player.
 
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To help with development maybe add to the system A club that develops a player that goes onto play first grade also gets salary cap discounts
 
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HaroldBishop said:
I don't know mate, did they do much?
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So what can be done when a club outside of the "17" developes a player? Who gets the credit? @bort has a point but then again it will be a race to get those young players. Maybe for those cases no one gets credit?
 
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HaroldBishop said:
That's not true.
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Following this conversation in the thread it sounds like he was playing Rugby for Kings, signed into an NRL system with Rabbitohs and then got 'developed' over to the Roosters at a level of development they very quickly went out of their way to argue to the NRL about.

If he played League before Union it still arguably is true interest from Rabbitohs got him to start playing League (again) vs the Roosters doing nothing but sign him from Rabbitohs.

If he never stopped playing League different story but I don't have that information.
 
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HaroldBishop said:
Yeah I don't see why there always needs to be credit.
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The cost is in developing the player, not in putting them in your first grade team. I think you said it before, that's where any cash 'credit' should support
 
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bort said:
Following this conversation in the thread it sounds like he was playing Rugby for Kings, signed into an NRL system with Rabbitohs and then got 'developed' over to the Roosters at a level of development they very quickly went out of their way to argue to the NRL about.

If he played League before Union it still arguably is true interest from Rabbitohs got him to start playing League (again) vs the Roosters doing nothing but sign him from Rabbitohs.

If he never stopped playing League different story but I don't have that information.
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You said they started to get him playing League, that's just not true. That's what I was responding to
 
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Sparkles said:
The cost is in developing the player, not in putting them in your first grade team. I think you said it before, that's where any cash 'credit' should support
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Yep totally agree, the proposed model is complete bollocks.
 
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I think that the path to the NRL (or to their current team) is not the same for every player, and creating a system which doesn’t appreciate that would be wrong. For every Brailey or Cleary there is going to be a Scott Drinkwater, an Albert Kelly, a Curtis Scott, a Kurt Capewell, a Corey Jensen or a Shaun Johnson.

If you create a system where the exceptions outnumber the conformities, you’ve drawn the lines in the wrong places.
 
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