2022 NRL General discussion
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Sir Chadley
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I'm surprised there is no mention of the Sharks in that article.
Western Sharkie
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No. We are the good guys now.
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Think everyone's covered it, but I think filtering the expletives is better for the site overall. The less like Bulldogs fans we can sound like, the better
Personally it doesn't bother me, but yeah, it's not always about us.
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'Cult' hero might refer to us
Gards
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I'm glad this was posted in the context of a footy forum and not somewhere else...
imagine telling the misses you just stepping out back to burn some fags
that was AFB
does this mean Montoya has to go work on Oxford Street?
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Interesting to read there's again some buzz about giving salary cap relief for developing your own players:
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/th...d-revolutionise-the-game-20220412-p5acw7.html
I like the idea in general, although not sure I agree with the metric that you should be rewarded only for players who debut with you (just more incentive to steal other clubs juniors, hey Roosters?)
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/th...d-revolutionise-the-game-20220412-p5acw7.html
I like the idea in general, although not sure I agree with the metric that you should be rewarded only for players who debut with you (just more incentive to steal other clubs juniors, hey Roosters?)
HaroldBishop
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Agree, it's bullshit. The emphasis needs to be on grass roots.
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Key takeaway - the Roosters would get more money.
I still don't see the emphasis on developing your own juniors. It just means that the Roosters and Storm would keep raiding the best up and comers.
And the dollar amounts they're talking about if things stayed the same... negligible for most clubs.
I do agree with the line about team rosters becoming 'generic'. I'd prefer a core group of players to stick with clubs over a longer period. Don't see this making much difference to that, though.
'Here we developed this NRL ready 19 year old we signed in the last offseason and debuted in round 1'
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Yeah, BS metric.
I think the metric should focus on the players "you" develop and turn them into NRL players. In this article, Roosters come oacross as "the club" for juinors, however, I would consider Joseph Sualii a product of the Rabbitohs not Roosters. Just becasue they primised him the world and managed to steal him away does not mean Roosters should get the benefit.
They should look at Euro Football clubs about this. It's not the best system but there are some clubs who make a "living" just from their development programs.
Should make it if they play any 2 grades before playing firsts so from Fegg, Mathew’s, Ball and NSW/QLD cup. Must play min 10 games each in 2 grades to be counted as “developing”
Eliminates buying the next big thing then playing a few games then straight in.
Gives clubs incentives to stick with Jrs.
And make it a decent reward 10% off the contract max $40-$50k per player per year.
Eliminates buying the next big thing then playing a few games then straight in.
Gives clubs incentives to stick with Jrs.
And make it a decent reward 10% off the contract max $40-$50k per player per year.
Western Sharkie
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Yeah, those stats are tainted.
The Roosters raid the top quality Souths, Sharks, Penrith jr’s with incentives paid by uncle Nick before they get to the NRL and then “debut” them as if they nurtured them from the very start.
The Roosters raid the top quality Souths, Sharks, Penrith jr’s with incentives paid by uncle Nick before they get to the NRL and then “debut” them as if they nurtured them from the very start.
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Yeah - dumb system. Sounds like the "purity" scale is put together by Melbourne, Brisbane and the Roosters.
Papenhuyzen, Walker, Suaali were all developed by their team apparently - but the Sharks had nothing to do with turning Hunt, Talakai, Hamlin-Uele, Tracey or Hiroti in to NRL players so they are clearly imports.
Even if you were going to use that system, it should be "percentage of salary cap" rather than "percentage of players", or it should only be applied against your top 10-15 earners. An imported Ikuvalu is not equivalent to an imported Tedesco, and does anyone think the Broncos are "poaching" by having Jensen, James, Hoeter, Walters, Lee and Gamble all in their top 30 on close to minimum wage?
Sharks current roster (28 players) is:
- 12 who debuted with the club
- 8 players who were established as NRL players elsewhere (including Ikuvalu and Tolman who would not be in the top 10-15 contracts)
- 5 players who had each played less than 5 NRL in the two years preceding them becoming a Sharks player
- 3 who have not yet debuted
So according to old mate's scale, the Sharks are the most import-heavy team because they have bought 6 top-end players, 2 of whom have played more than 180 games for the team.
To throw up another drama, what about expansion teams (Dolphins and whoever comes next)? They are going to maybe debut 3-4 players in their first year and will take 10+ years to catch up to the rest of the comp.
Papenhuyzen, Walker, Suaali were all developed by their team apparently - but the Sharks had nothing to do with turning Hunt, Talakai, Hamlin-Uele, Tracey or Hiroti in to NRL players so they are clearly imports.
Even if you were going to use that system, it should be "percentage of salary cap" rather than "percentage of players", or it should only be applied against your top 10-15 earners. An imported Ikuvalu is not equivalent to an imported Tedesco, and does anyone think the Broncos are "poaching" by having Jensen, James, Hoeter, Walters, Lee and Gamble all in their top 30 on close to minimum wage?
Sharks current roster (28 players) is:
- 12 who debuted with the club
- 8 players who were established as NRL players elsewhere (including Ikuvalu and Tolman who would not be in the top 10-15 contracts)
- 5 players who had each played less than 5 NRL in the two years preceding them becoming a Sharks player
- 3 who have not yet debuted
So according to old mate's scale, the Sharks are the most import-heavy team because they have bought 6 top-end players, 2 of whom have played more than 180 games for the team.
To throw up another drama, what about expansion teams (Dolphins and whoever comes next)? They are going to maybe debut 3-4 players in their first year and will take 10+ years to catch up to the rest of the comp.
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Western Sharkie
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HaroldBishop
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Not sure how Suallii was a product of Souths?
I don't see the issue, what are they meant to do?
Nothing mate. It's only a rort if your not involved!
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It wasn't the N word. Let's keep to what actually happened.
No I don't believe Roberts was the only gay bloke in League. But who cares? A player's sexual preferences aren't anyone's business.
I'm unsure what the issue being exacerbated & reinforced is.. are gay players living in fear of coming out in 2022 because of Montoya, or do normal people just not feel the need to clarify their sexuality for everyone else? 16 x 30 man squads, we might have 480 gay blokes running around.
Ah, so simple it's genius. Just find a bloke who played for a decade that had a kid about halfway through, who then moved into coaching. Let him coach 6yrs in NZ before hiring him. Then sack him 3yrs later. He's without a job for 2yrs before signing with a rival where he spends a season & bit before quitting and rejoining Penrith. Meanwhile & this is crucial; that kid he had, he's gotta develop into the marquee halfback of the comp.
Then tadaah! Your long game pays off. You can funnel cash to a kid you're already paying a million to who didn't wanna leave anyway.