2020 Membership
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Mark^Bastard
Great White
They're gunna struggle without the lazy tax...
There's no way they could do automatic rollovers when you change home grounds.
I think their expectation is to lose a lot of members, which is understandable, but I'm not sure they have a plan to get these numbers back after the 2 years is up
HaroldBishop
Megalodon
I reckon it's very, very hard to get a member back once they're gone. This doesn't look good.
slide rule
Jaws
People might get excited for a return to Shark Park
It'll all depend on how the team goes
It'll all depend on how the team goes
Gards
Jaws
pissing off existing members isn't a good plan either. canning the auto roller is a good thing but agree the change of home grounds is a massive challenge.
the thing is, even when we have games locally at Shark park attendance is not that brilliant. many in the shire sit at home and watch fox while many fans travel from outside the shire to home games anyway. some of our best turnouts and attendances have been away from Shark Park for finals ect.
Bankwest will **** all over Shark park in terms of atmosphere and amenities. Kogorah less so
yea I get it's not as easy for local fans to get on the drinks or just walk down to the ground and get home afterwards but if they really want to go to the games they still will
we have faced tougher challenges at the club than where we play the games for a few years. I'm actually a bit over Shark park, looking at the positive the change of scenery might be refreshing and we get to troll saints fans at OUR new home ground
slide rule
Jaws
I reckon the vast majority of our crowds come from the shire
HaroldBishop
Megalodon
Maybe. 50% of our membership lives outside of the shire though.
SharkShocked
Bull Shark
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SharkShocked
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In relation to the whole, pissing members off.
I personally am not overly fond of the ground change (I live outside the area) and was hoping that there would be a way i could pay a nominal amount and maintain the tickets i have (which i quite enjoy) back at Pointsbet.
I understand all sides of the argument and the catch cries / tag lines for both sides.
However purely as a generic 'customer' i feel like the valuing of the next 2 years vs for example the last 15 consecutive years i've had fully ticketed membership doesn't feel like equivalence and I can see how it would leave a sour taste in some peoples mouth.
It's a big change, people don't like change - and they most certainly will lose members and crowds will probably be poor.
It's a pretty big risk - be interesting to see how it pans out.
I personally am not overly fond of the ground change (I live outside the area) and was hoping that there would be a way i could pay a nominal amount and maintain the tickets i have (which i quite enjoy) back at Pointsbet.
I understand all sides of the argument and the catch cries / tag lines for both sides.
However purely as a generic 'customer' i feel like the valuing of the next 2 years vs for example the last 15 consecutive years i've had fully ticketed membership doesn't feel like equivalence and I can see how it would leave a sour taste in some peoples mouth.
It's a big change, people don't like change - and they most certainly will lose members and crowds will probably be poor.
It's a pretty big risk - be interesting to see how it pans out.
If you're not willing to support the club (just added that line in to guilt you) by spending your money on what you see to be an inferior product would you expect to reinvest when the club reopens?
They probably will see a membership drop off while locked out of home but hopefully most go back when Shark Park is back in business.
SF
Mako Shark
That's a good way to put it. I agree it would be good if there was some system other than having to 100% match your current tickets in order to maintain them. I have quite a few tickets currently, but will be unlikely to use all of those at Kogarah.
I can see the difficulty if a new member signs up for the top tier seats at Kogarah and then can't get into say the ET Upper Stand in two years, but I'd guess this could be managed via natural attrition of members.
If we have a couple of lean seasons, we may regret giving current members an ultimatum.
Yeah that'd be a big issue if you gave people the opportunity to retain their seats for a nominal amount and then people who paid the full amount to attend for two years lost access to that quality of seat.
If you give existing members a substantially reduced price for Kogarah also club is losing revenue and undervaluing their product. Additionally for a lot of people the more they have paid the more they will value the product which reflects on attendance too, if you only have a nominal amount spent a lot more people would find excuses not to attend as much as when they have made a more significant investment.
Because it is quite close still you'd hope most people that attend games would still attend a similar amount.
If we are going well that'd help too...
snowman
Total gronk
they are definitely going to have lean years
i know of at least 30 people who aren't buying tickets next season
i am not going like for like with my seats but will get some sort of membership to keep my collective years going
i know of at least 30 people who aren't buying tickets next season
i am not going like for like with my seats but will get some sort of membership to keep my collective years going
Tiger Shark
Jaws
The way I see it, you're supporting the team, not the ground. If you're not willing to support the club, a club that has no secrets it's doing it tough financially during the two years then you should not expect to have the same seats when you're back.
And I don't think some holding fee is an answer (as mentioned) because you might get someone who's paid the full freight and then doesn't get to chose the same tickets when we go back.
Sharks fans have to be up there with the most fair weathered in existence. Not you guys of course
They're not going to say it obviously but I'd hazzard that if you don't become a member the next two years but come back and ask for your same seats and they're available then I don't think they'll turn you down. You just run the risk of losing them.
I'm lower ET stand, love my seats. And I'll get a membership for Kogarah, but maybe a different tier to hold my spot. I might also try and get one of those sweet sweet Upper ET stand spots that'll come available in a few years.
Kogarah is actually much better logisitically for me. Near the train stations, quicker drive and actually in Uber range.
And I don't think some holding fee is an answer (as mentioned) because you might get someone who's paid the full freight and then doesn't get to chose the same tickets when we go back.
Sharks fans have to be up there with the most fair weathered in existence. Not you guys of course
They're not going to say it obviously but I'd hazzard that if you don't become a member the next two years but come back and ask for your same seats and they're available then I don't think they'll turn you down. You just run the risk of losing them.
I'm lower ET stand, love my seats. And I'll get a membership for Kogarah, but maybe a different tier to hold my spot. I might also try and get one of those sweet sweet Upper ET stand spots that'll come available in a few years.
Kogarah is actually much better logisitically for me. Near the train stations, quicker drive and actually in Uber range.
that’s exactly what our group of friends we seat with are doing. If we miss out on our existing seats then so be it.
HaroldBishop
Megalodon
I think just membership
Mark^Bastard
Great White
Biggest difference is Kogarah only really has a western stand and the rest is concourse + hill. There's an uncovered amount of stadium seating to the north as well.
So basically it depends. I'd say that overall there will be winners and losers, but it's fine.
snowman
Total gronk
the way rossy explained it, people who are undercover in the monty and upper et will be undercover in the grand stand at kogarah, people who have no cover in lower et and pb are still under cover