2017 NRL General Discussion Thread

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They've been competitive through that period though. If they properly go broke well bad luck, but they shouldn't just be made to move or cut.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

They've been competitive through that period though. If they properly go broke well bad luck, but they shouldn't just be made to move or cut.

Competitive? Maybe 1 or 2 years.

 

[sharks2010]

As soon as? The tigers have been terrible on and off the field for far too long. The salary cap should never allow a team to miss the finals for 7 seasons. But their office made that possible. A merger already, they owe 10s of millions if i remember correctly, the nrl had to appoint board members basically to mediate decisions seeing as the wests and balmain seats could never agree. Really, they shouldnt be still in sydney. Take the license to brisbane or perth. The nrl should merge newy/bears or something

if we go by your criterias for poor performing clubs both player wise and in the front office then parra are worse than the Tigers. Haven't played semi final football since 2009, received a few spoons and had a salary cap scandal, they may not owe the nrl millions but they have been a bigger basket case than the Tigers

So naturally there will be debate on who should be moved on first.

 

[Capital_Shark]

I think its pretty ordinary for anyone to advocate for the removal or relocation of any team. Especially Sharkies fans who know all too well how it feels if its your team.

Having said that I also think something will give. We got a lot of very poorly run clubs who produce poor football. I was a fan of Dave Smith's 'criteria/KPI funding' model in that those who reach certain goals (individually assesed on a team-by-team basis) where to get the NRL $$$ they had to hit certain goals.

Its a tough one. We're going okay now so a "strongest survive, weakest die" approach seems sensible, but 8yrs ago I wouldn't because it'd be us on the chopping block.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

I think its pretty ordinary for anyone to advocate for the removal or relocation of any team. Especially Sharkies fans who know all too well how it feels if its your team.

Having said that I also think something will give. We got a lot of very poorly run clubs who produce poor football. I was a fan of Dave Smith's 'criteria/KPI funding' model in that those who reach certain goals (individually assesed on a team-by-team basis) where to get the NRL $$$ they had to hit certain goals.

Its a tough one. We're going okay now so a "strongest survive, weakest die" approach seems sensible, but 8yrs ago I wouldn't because it'd be us on the chopping block.

And really, if we were sent packing in those bad years we did deserve it.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

if we go by your criterias for poor performing clubs both player wise and in the front office then parra are worse than the Tigers. Haven't played semi final football since 2009, received a few spoons and had a salary cap scandal, they may not owe the nrl millions but they have been a bigger basket case than the Tigers

So naturally there will be debate on who should be moved on first.

Yeah but they wont do that cos u love parra

 

[Western Sharkie]

Mate this discussion isnt new. And for sydney clubs, we have a team thats not made the finals 7 years running, poor crowds, financially unstable, nrl had to appoint board members just to mediate basically........for all sydney clubs, wests would be first out the door. The discussion came about this week after the adelaide game, like it does whenever we play a game in perth or
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Sounds like us a few years ago thou!
We don't want to be throwing mud at other Sydney based clubs.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

Sounds like us a few years ago thou!
We don't want to be throwing mud at other Sydney based clubs.

Yeah we were ****ed. And a bees dick from going flat broke......but did the nrl need to come and pour 10s of millions into us? Yeah we've gotten a leg up here or there but nothing like some of these other teams have. Really, if the nrl wanted another team in brisbane, titans would already be there.

The relocate talk doesnt come from the nrl it comes from journos who think they know whats best. In reality, relocating a team wont work anyway cos if u send the tigers lr parra, or us to perth do u think existing fans are going to follow with the same support? Theyd rebrand IMO

 

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And really, if we were sent packing in those bad years we did deserve it.

But we didn't and we've been able to find a way out and make a go of it. It's a good example as to why you don't just go punting clubs.

And who exactly deserves it? The administration, the fans, the players?

The Tigers and Magpies clubs are both over 100 years old. They shouldn't be judged on a few years of below par administration. If they properly go broke then there's nothing much that can (or perhaps should) be done. But I don't agree with just passing judgement on clubs that can otherwise battle on.

As I said earlier, the competition is always going to have crap teams. If the tigers go then the next lowest Sydney team then comes under scrutiny. And it just goes on forever until you have 2 teams.

And it's not just the Sydney teams that struggle from time to time. Look at the Gold Coast and Knights.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Our saving grace was our big piece of dirt.
We had 10's of millions of debt ourselves IIRC ($12-14m???) but the development got us out of a big hole, so Thankfully we didn't need to rely on the NRL's coin cos they wouldn't have given it to us in those quantities anyway.
I get what you are saying abt the Tigers but I think we should just watch the train wreck from a distance.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

But we didn't and we've been able to find a way out and make a go of it. It's a good example as to why you don't just go punting clubs.

And who exactly deserves it? The administration, the fans, the players?

The Tigers and Magpies clubs are both over 100 years old. They shouldn't be judged on a few years of below par administration. If they properly go broke then there's nothing much that can (or perhaps should) be done. But I don't agree with just passing judgement on clubs that can otherwise battle on.

As I said earlier, the competition is always going to have crap teams. If the tigers go then the next lowest Sydney team then comes under scrutiny. And it just goes on forever until you have 2 teams.

And it's not just the Sydney teams that struggle from time to time. Look at the Gold Coast and Knights.

Well titans went broke. Literally. And the nrl had to step in to save them as they had a 16 team comp to honour. Newy the same. As they sit they are draining extra money from the nrl. But the nrl wont be doing that again i think they said.

As for being 100 year old clubs, irrellevant. If they let the good old days dictate the future theyll never go forwards.

And im not saying they should be punted, im saying if the nrl wanted to drop a sydney team, wests would be my pick. Eels are up there but their off field issues come down more to a dodgy board, tigers seem to have a problem due to the merger which will probably always exist, especially while 1 club had the $ and the other is broke

 

[HaroldBishop]

DEAN “The Weapon” Robinson — one of the key architects of the Essendon drugs regime — is back working in professional sport.

The Herald Sun can reveal Robinson, who was never charged over his role in Australian sport’s greatest scandal, is consulting for the Sydney Roosters in the NRL.

Robinson was Essendon’s high-performance boss from late 2011 until February 2013 and helped establish the Bombers’ “pharmacologically experimental” drugs program alongside sports scientist Stephen Dank.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...l/news-story/ae9c0524eb39e2358100d6f551d1c419

 

[Addy]

He's Trent Robinson's brother

 

[SkullCrusher]

Yeah, so because a club that is coming last has an off week with attendances we need to cut Sydney teams.

In Origin time too.

Okay.

Not only are they coming last, it was 6 degrees in Ctown that night. They were also playing the Gold Coast Titans. Doubt many of their fans were in attendence.Maybe if they were playing another Sydney team they might have pulled a bigger crowd. They can't really whinge about people not turning up. I live down the road, have free tickets and I wouldn't go. Then again I'm not a Tigers fan.

 

[SkullCrusher]

Not too long ago it was us they wanted gone. If they had been successful I wonder how many NRL fans they would have lost to another code. The Campbelltown area is such a big rugby league area for juniors. They would never get rid of the local football team. It's just media bull****.
The Wests side is strong it's the Balmain tigers side that has the financial problems. Wests owns a 75% stake

 

[HaroldBishop]

He's Trent Robinson's brother

Yeah i know. I'm amazed the NRL approved it.

 

[Greg86]

Yeah i know. I'm amazed the NRL approved it.

Probably only aware now it's been reported

 

[Mr Ryan]

I wouldn't be get rid of any teams.

A bit of fine tuning wouldn't hurt though.

Move Tigers to Campbelltown full time. Play and train there. Maybe a couple of games a year at the new Parramatta Stadium.

Same with the Dragons to Wollongong. 2 games a year at Kogarah.

 

[Western Sharkie]

I wouldn't be get rid of any teams.

A bit of fine tuning wouldn't hurt though.

Move Tigers to Campbelltown full time. Play and train there. Maybe a couple of games a year at the new Parramatta Stadium.

Same with the Dragons to Wollongong. 2 games a year at Kogarah.

With the St George juniors becoming the Sharks catchment area

 

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Source : The Obstruction Rule


Eels reportedly rejected Lichaa
JUNE 27, 2017, 12:01 AM BY JOEL LEAVE A COMMENT

The value of Bulldogs hooker Michael Lichaa has apparently dropped below that of the Vietnamese Dong.

According to Triple M, Lichaa was reportedly offered to the Eels, who are currently without both their top hookers indefinitely, for the rest of the year – and they rejected him.

“This leaves Michael Lichaa in real limbo for next year,” said The Australian reporter Brent Read, “because there is no offer on the table (from the Bulldogs), and it doesn’t look like he will get one.”

The fact that the Eels would rather turn to Cameron King, who hasn’t played first grade in almost two years, than the current Bulldogs starter, speaks volumes about how far Lichaa has fallen.

It remains to be seen if he’ll be offered an NRL contract anywhere for next year, but at this rate, the Super League could be looming as his only option