snowman
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processes are put in place for a reason, we failed, he will get the majority of his contract
2016 NRL General Discussion Thread
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HaroldBishop
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Reasonable compensation is to be expected. Let's not forget he ****ed up and would have been sacked anyway. $2m is completely unreasonable and unrealistic, it's absurd really.
snowman
Total gronk
he had 4 and a half years left on a 4 million + deal.
2 million is pretty reasonable
if due process had been followed and it got to the board there is no guarantee he is sacked
2 million is pretty reasonable
if due process had been followed and it got to the board there is no guarantee he is sacked
HaroldBishop
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Will have to disagree on this one. I have no doubt he would have got the sack and even if we didn't I'm pretty sure the NRL would have stepped in.
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Sorry I posted this in the WRONG thread yesterday whilst a bit drunk.
Seriously , if the NRL even contiplates allowing Todd Carney into next year's competition ,it should come with strict compliance that he accepts and drops the Sharks case against him .
He faaaaarked up embarrassing sponsors and supporters.
Because the NRL would have required the exact same punishment .
Cop it sweet. acknowledge you messed up AGAIN. You've served your time in UK , start again clean.
BUT To piss in your mouth , get 2 Million $$$ from the Club that cut you and be able to play for good $$$ after that is FAAAAARK ED
Where is the punishment for being a Faaaaakwit..
NRL needs to back the Sharks and apply pressure
Seriously , if the NRL even contiplates allowing Todd Carney into next year's competition ,it should come with strict compliance that he accepts and drops the Sharks case against him .
He faaaaarked up embarrassing sponsors and supporters.
Because the NRL would have required the exact same punishment .
Cop it sweet. acknowledge you messed up AGAIN. You've served your time in UK , start again clean.
BUT To piss in your mouth , get 2 Million $$$ from the Club that cut you and be able to play for good $$$ after that is FAAAAARK ED
Where is the punishment for being a Faaaaakwit..
NRL needs to back the Sharks and apply pressure
slide rule
Jaws
I don't care where he plays. But PLEASE can we see the dream team combo of
6. T. CARNEY
7. T SMITH
We have won the Grand Final now, so this is all I care about.
6. T. CARNEY
7. T SMITH
We have won the Grand Final now, so this is all I care about.
snowman
Total gronk
there were board members who were backing him, influentual ones as well
$2mil is a reminder of the process we should take in future
it isnt hard to stand someone down and then sack them after due process, ala, our handling of the bird situation
slide rule
Jaws
Is it a requirement in his contract that he be given the opportunity to face the board?
If a kid that worked in the bistro flopped his dick out he'd probably be sacked further down the line of command. I guess there should be some kind of opportunity to argue your case, but why does it have to be to the board as opposed to the CEO?
If a kid that worked in the bistro flopped his dick out he'd probably be sacked further down the line of command. I guess there should be some kind of opportunity to argue your case, but why does it have to be to the board as opposed to the CEO?
HaroldBishop
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Agree with everything you're saying except the payout figure.
vicsharkfan
Jaws
There was already history with noyce and Carney I recall, not sure how much that played into the hasty decsion. That being said No way carney would have played out his contract here with the way he was carrying on off field.
Bundy Shark
Jaws
The things that probably screws us as much as anything would be us as a club sweeping stuff under the carpet that Carney did before the bubbler incident that ultimately was the straw that broke the camel's back.
There was a fair amount of speculation & rumours for a good few months at least of Carney doing this & doing, we probably thought at the time t was best to deal with as much as we could in house cause at the time we as a club couldn't afford him to be suspended by the NRL, I think it would be fair to assume he was probably warned about his behaviour prior to being punted.
As others have mentioned many times before we probably s#%t ourselves a bit by trying to be seen publicly as doing the right thing & jumping on this but in hindsight, which is a wonderful thing we might have been to trigger happy, Carney & his team would know we will be restricted as to what we can bring up about our justification in punting him knowing full well we will shoot ourselves in the foot by now publicly declaring all the things he did which got swept under the carpet.
There was a fair amount of speculation & rumours for a good few months at least of Carney doing this & doing, we probably thought at the time t was best to deal with as much as we could in house cause at the time we as a club couldn't afford him to be suspended by the NRL, I think it would be fair to assume he was probably warned about his behaviour prior to being punted.
As others have mentioned many times before we probably s#%t ourselves a bit by trying to be seen publicly as doing the right thing & jumping on this but in hindsight, which is a wonderful thing we might have been to trigger happy, Carney & his team would know we will be restricted as to what we can bring up about our justification in punting him knowing full well we will shoot ourselves in the foot by now publicly declaring all the things he did which got swept under the carpet.
stormshark
Jaws
Seriously if he gets $200k i will spew, if he gets any more than that this country and its laws, Pc etc are absurd. I became a Carney Fan but was initially against the signing. If he gets anything like the amount mentioned I will be physically sick knowing most of the GF revenue from hard work, will end up in his direction!! I guess the NRL can't bring into play the old Drop the action or we won't register you, as that will be restraint of trade!!!??
PLeeeaseee!! **** me!!
slide rule
Jaws
I don't know why an indiscretion should need to be made public. The media are always pushing for this and talking about "sweeping things under the carpet". But why should any club publicise something that is detrimental? If the club finds out about *something* and then issues a warning then it has been dealt with. There's no reason why the public should be notified, particularly if it's not a sackable offence and relatively minor on it's own. This push for all these things to be made public comes from the media and it is only self-serving IMO. The NRL might take issue with something and want it reported to them, but the idea that EVERYTHING needs to be made public is a bit off.
Western Sharkie
Jaws
Maybe they will also find Noyce personally responsible and make him foot the bill or a portion of it.
I think TC initially lodged something against the club and Noyce for memory.
HaroldBishop
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Noyce was employed by the club, that won't happen mate.
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Carney ?
I told you last month about an unsavoury incident involving some Australian club players in Super League.
It seems the boys have misbehaved badly and were quickly shown the door.
Super League officials know about it and have told their NRL counterparts but incredibly one or two of the players look like picking up new deals elsewhere.
The double standards in rugby league never cease to amaze old Lurker.
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At the time I was a little disappointed we sacked him. I didn't feel that incident was worthy of a contract tear up. Also, I felt that the club had to set an example as we were already in a position where player mis-behaviour was a burden. I can understand the termination to keep the NRL on side. But obviously we didn't follow protocol. At the end of the day my questions are - why did the NRL agree or not step in if they felt the punishment was wrong? Why does he need the NRL to approve a new contract if they didn't have a say themselves in the termination?
BlackWhiteBlue
Jaws
I look at it this way.
Carney photo got released late on that saturday, by lunch time sunday, nobody had not seen it. The media outlets, everyone, was saying hes gotta go, gotta go. While it was wrong to do so, the club (or should i say, Noyce) buckled and booted his arse like he deserved. I imagine there would have been pressure felt by the club at the time to act swiftly, given we had players about to do a suspension for doping, we had a coach on his lounge and were in the midst of other issues too regarding ASADA etc......So we sacked him, to be firm. Didnt follow protocol.
Carney landed on his feet, was playing footy in the next season for Catalans, how much money for im not sure.
He will get compensation for the failure to follow process, but I dont think he will get his contract pay out. He is the one who screwed up, as well as he also had earned money since, which would also be taken into consideration.
Now the media were quick, after calling for his head, to then get on the Carney sympathy wagon. As soon as he decided to take action the media found a way to fall into his corner.
Yet here we are with Fifita and the media putting pressure on us to give him the boot, or suspend him or take other action other than letting the NRL continue its investigation.........
Western Sharkie
Jaws
What a year for drought breakers.
First the doggies in the AFL, then us and no the Chicago Cubs!
First the doggies in the AFL, then us and no the Chicago Cubs!