Official 2015 - 2025 Kit Thread

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I'm sure they'd be open to any brand but it needs to work for club too.

I won't pretend to have the slightest idea the negotiations that go on for who an apparel producer is.

Do Puma fancy themselves as prestigious enough they cost a premium and it isn't cost effective?
Do Classic see our brand as strong enough they will do a good price and we can make a bit more money per item?
Are you working with a rep who values you as a client and will bend over backwards to make sure you get what you want even on an emergency turnaround or are you a small client to a global giant that won't squeeze a special jersey into an order because it will slow their production of cashcows Man City and AC Milan by a moment?
Rhetorical questions obviously, but I guess the sorts of things that may play a role.

I highly doubt puma's Australian department handles anything to do with international football teams

They seem to think they can supply essendon just fine so I doubt we'd be an issue
 

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I highly doubt puma's Australian department handles anything to do with international football teams
Do they use the same factories though?

They seem to think they can supply essendon just fine so I doubt we'd be an issue
Presumably there is a reason they do Essendon and not every professional sporting club in Australia.
Essendon also have other sponsors we don't have.

If there is no reason for us to not have Puma, Adidas or Nike then why don't we?
 

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If there is no reason for us to not have Puma, Adidas or Nike then why don't we?

Now your just being deliberately obtuse.

My original post about this topic was a hope that their relationship with Nicho and other players in the team might create an interest for them.
They've also pretty clearly been taking an interest in the game the last few years.

Oh and considering puma has a 21 page document online listing all the different factories they use to manufacture products I'd say it's fairly good odds they would be different factories for different markets
 

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Now your just being deliberately obtuse.

My original post about this topic was a hope that their relationship with Nicho and other players in the team might create an interest for them.
They've also pretty clearly been taking an interest in the game the last few years.

Oh and considering puma has a 21 page document online listing all the different factories they use to manufacture products I'd say it's fairly good odds they would be different factories for different markets
No I'm fishing for suggestions that you won't rebut, about why we aren't using a larger company.

I don't know what the answer is, and what I've suggested has been shot down. I appreciate you have researched a 21 page document to shoot down they may not be willing to prioritise our supply like another company might, but there must be some reason we don't use a company like Puma if they would have no quality or supply issues.
I haven't perused the document or looked into the factories but they may not all produce professional quality sporting attire.

Per your seemingly sarcastic
They seem to think they can supply essendon just fine so I doubt we'd be an issue
I have no doubt they could handle us just fine if they wanted to

If you think Nicho could entice them onboard what has changed - simply just the rate they will do the work for us at?
 

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Now your just being deliberately obtuse.

My original post about this topic was a hope that their relationship with Nicho and other players in the team might create an interest for them.
They've also pretty clearly been taking an interest in the game the last few years.

Oh and considering puma has a 21 page document online listing all the different factories they use to manufacture products I'd say it's fairly good odds they would be different factories for different markets
Obtuse - been watching Shawshank Redemption have we?

I only ever hear that word used when watching this movie.
 

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Chances if we signed with a big brand, Adidas, Puma etc. we'd only be getting the logo. All their stuff is made through smaller local manufacturers like Classic and Sekem (the ones that makes the Best&Less jerseys) or ISC.

Our Classic deal from what I understand is one of convenience. Dynasty made some great stuff, but there was massive supply issues.

Classic are made around the corner.

Give it 10 years and it will be a non issue, the NRL will get a comp wide manufacturer. They were this close 🤏 few years back.

Socks would be the hardest to get the colour right
 

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No I'm fishing for suggestions that you won't rebut, about why we aren't using a larger company.

I don't know what the answer is, and what I've suggested has been shot down. I appreciate you have researched a 21 page document to shoot down they may not be willing to prioritise our supply like another company might, but there must be some reason we don't use a company like Puma if they would have no quality or supply issues.
I haven't perused the document or looked into the factories but they may not all produce professional quality sporting attire.

Per your seemingly sarcastic

I have no doubt they could handle us just fine if they wanted to

If you think Nicho could entice them onboard what has changed - simply just the rate they will do the work for us at?

Perhaps I think I should be allowed an opinion or to be able to express a desire I have for the club without needing to know and/or defend every part of the manufacturing process or the inner workings of a company I don't work for's boardroom?

If you don't want people to be sarcastic to you than don't be purposely irritating

Obtu

Obtuse - been watching Shawshank Redemption have we?

I only ever hear that word used when watching this movie.

No I use it fairly regularly
 
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Perhaps I think I should be allowed an opinion or to be able to express a desire I have for the club without needing to know and/or defend every part of the manufacturing process or the inner workings of a company I don't work for's boardroom?

If you don't want peopleto be sarcastic to you than don't be purposely irritating



No I use it fairly regularly
I asked a couple of rhetorical questions (even said they were) about why we may use one supplier not another and you jumped straight to sarcastic.

Nowhere in anything I wrote did I even remotely suggest you should not be allowed an opinion. In fact I was agreeing with you the whole time, but musing about why we might not be using a given supplier. Where did you get that you aren't allowed an opinion from?

If you found choosing to respond to rhetorical questions irritating that is your own decision. What did I do that was purposefully irritating? Discuss some reasons your perfectly valid desire might not be happening (on a discussion forum), which you disagree with? I'm so sorry this has happened to you.
 

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They are mid to me, not necessarily ****, but either way I think in the end I at least won't notice them too much.

If you think they are ****, and certainly entitled to think so, hopefully you won't notice them much either!
Lol it's the little annoying things that my ocd brain picks up
 

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I asked a couple of rhetorical questions (even said they were) about why we may use one supplier not another and you jumped straight to sarcastic.

Nowhere in anything I wrote did I even remotely suggest you should not be allowed an opinion. In fact I was agreeing with you the whole time, but musing about why we might not be using a given supplier. Where did you get that you aren't allowed an opinion from?

If you found choosing to respond to rhetorical questions irritating that is your own decision. What did I do that was purposefully irritating? Discuss some reasons your perfectly valid desire might not be happening (on a discussion forum), which you disagree with? I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

I wouldn't really consider asking a bunch of rhetorical questions that can't be answered as trying to have a discussion.

I also don't really think that mentioning their confidence in ability to supply essendon, a team with historically higher membership and merchandise sales than our is sarcastic. More a valid response to questions around the ability to hit supply demands or concerns with how it could impact other teams.


If there is no reason for us to not have Puma, Adidas or Nike then why don't we?

You asked this obviously stupid question and got sarcastic yourself when I called it as much. Should I also apologise now?
 

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I wouldn't really consider asking a bunch of rhetorical questions that can't be answered as trying to have a discussion.

I also don't really think that mentioning their confidence in ability to supply essendon, a team with historically higher membership and merchandise sales than our is sarcastic. More a valid response to questions around the ability to hit supply demands or concerns with how it could impact other teams.

But I didn’t say they couldn’t supply them I questioned if they would convince the club they’d be willing to prioritise it compared to what another supplier would promise as maybe a reason we’d go with a smaller supplier.

You’ve decided to interpret everything I’ve said as not having a convo, sarcastic, obtuse like you’re under some kind of attack because I wondered why we use a different supplier than the one you want.

You asked this obviously stupid question and got sarcastic yourself when I called it as much. Should I also apologise now?
Be more useful than anything else you’ve said blowing up about someone trying to talk to you and how you chose to interpret it

But don’t bother replying I won’t see it and I suggest you block me also if you’re going to read into everything I say and accuse me of attacking your opinion.
 

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“If there is no reason that we can’t, then why don’t we?” is a fantastic question.
 

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But I didn’t say they couldn’t supply them I questioned if they would convince the club they’d be willing to prioritise it compared to what another supplier would promise as maybe a reason we’d go with a smaller supplier.

You’ve decided to interpret everything I’ve said as not having a convo, sarcastic, obtuse like you’re under some kind of attack because I wondered why we use a different supplier than the one you want.


Be more useful than anything else you’ve said blowing up about someone trying to talk to you and how you chose to interpret it

But don’t bother replying I won’t see it and I suggest you block me also if you’re going to read into everything I say and accuse me of attacking your opinion.

Blocking people to ensure you get the last word is hilariously pathetic but if it makes you feel better go ahead.

If you can't move on and keep this separate this from any future conversations than that's sad
 

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Mock up kit redesign. Been seeing alot of these for different teams this off season but this is the first for us I've seen.


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Mock up kit redesign. Been seeing alot of these for different teams this off season but this is the first for us I've seen.


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Hate the home and away.

Like the alternate concept
 
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