2012 Standard of Refereeing Thread

[Gil]

I haven't seen the replay but was he tackled in the air?

I don't think so, can't remember.

I know the replay at the ground just showed him going across (on back) the knee of King I think it was.

 

[JimBob]

I haven't seen the replay but was he tackled in the air?

Don't think so, from memory they were both contesting for the ball and he fell awkwardly.

 

[Matty C of the Shire]

In the air, and he tackled when he don't et the ball then bought Matty down on his knee

 

[Matty C of the Shire]

To be honest Matt Wright was acting like a real bitch when he wouldnt get up after that.

Wrestlers get up from that **** all the time.

Because wrestlers try for moves and rehearse the moves. A drop like that would hurt anyone

 

[Matty C of the Shire]

Refs had a average day, souths players offside and a few knock ons for both sides weent knock on and several calls tackles were abit high an dangerous ie hit on Robson and wright both late

 

[Gards]

I'm all for the challenge system. I've mentioned my thoughts on it numerous times, probably in this thread. Until such time as the refs are competent it's essential to ensure that a few more calls are corrected.

On the topic of **** refereeing, who saw the double screw up on the Uate knock ons on Monday? He knocks it on in the run of play, refs call play on and we wind up having to drop out. From the drop out Uate knocks back and it's ruled knock on. Two errors in one minute on the same guy for the same thing. ****ing morons.

Yup since when is Wright a pro wrestler? Beside wrestling is fake hahah

 

[josh11223344]

Another error imo.

Cheyse blair was just forced to make a decision on a titans dummy runner and then the player ran around the back of him and set up a try. He may not have been touched but they gained the advantage from someone running behind his own man. What a joke!!!

 

[josh11223344]

Actually I thought the video referee got it right.

It was obvious that Ayshford (can't spell his name) fell for the decoy and I don't understand all the who-ha.

He fell for the decoy thus making the gap, PLAY ON!

But the rule is that you can't gain any advantage by running behind your own man. Ayshford had to come in to cover the dummy runner which means that they gained an advantage. There is no problem with this if they pass the ball to the man sweeping around the back but the ballrunner can't continue on his run behind the dummy runner.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

But the rule is that you can't gain any advantage by running behind your own man. Ayshford had to come in to cover the dummy runner which means that they gained an advantage. There is no problem with this if they pass the ball to the man sweeping around the back but the ballrunner can't continue on his run behind the dummy runner.

I think that its a **** rule in itself, but maybe more the grey areas, and refs now looking at each obstruction on a case by case basis.

In the bulldogs game, to me, theres 2 reasons why Wright scored.

1. Ayshford tackled Morris without the ball, after falling for the decoy runner, he didnt have eyes for the actual ball carrier, so in my opinion, we wasnt obstructed from play, because he made the bad defensive read, no advantage was given to the Dogs because of Morris' decoy, other than the fact that they fooled a guy, its not like Morris crossed Ayshfords path when trying to get Pritchard.

2. The good old fashion throw ya hands in the air, THREE Tigers defenders (including serial offender, in the state of origin obstruction try also Robbie F) just stop and start pleeding with the ref, 2 of these guys were in a decent position to stop that try anyway, but instead just turned and begged a ref. Thats poor footy imo. Play the whistle, it woulda been called video ref without their pleading. In fact, had they continued to defend, they probably woulda dragged Wright into touch.

I still believe going on a basic rule of don't run behind ya player, its a no try, and some of these **** rules really need to be sorted in the off season to black and white rules, and less referee interpretation allowed. Cos they **** up

 

[A.Snowden]

Listening to ref after that contest.

On field ref asked upstairs to look at it, video ref ref say's while it doesn't look good, Wright has come down awkwardly.

The vidoe ref said he can't even put it on report.

I thought the refs had a good game last night.

Yep. Agreed. And we won. Amazing what we can do when we don't have refs ruling us out of a game.

 

[Illawarra Shark]

To be honest Matt Wright was acting like a real bitch when he wouldnt get up after that.

Wrestlers get up from that **** all the time.

They also get up no worries after being hit with chairs. May be we should try sign the Rock for fullback :drunk

 

[JimBob]

They also get up no worries after being hit with chairs. May be we should try sign the Rock for fullback :drunk

IF YA SMEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLL, What the Sharks, Are cooking!

 

[BurgoShark]

Why can't the crowd see the replays? It's all transparency and it's good to see the footage that leads to the video refs decision.

I prefer the idea (can't remember where it came from) where the video ref doesn't watch the game at all. S/he sits in a room and reads a book or something until called upon. The decision is taken out of context and the video ref has no idea of the score, the mood, the flow of play...

A completely objective decision.

Not sure you read it in one of my posts, but I have been pushing that idea for years.

The video ref was originally introduced to get the decision right more often than could be done by the combination of a referee and an in-goal judge. I don't believe this is the case under the current conditions. Something needs to be changed.

The rule interpretations are also a mess, particularly with regard to obstruction and ruling of held-up in goal. For example: The rulebook says you can't disallow a try (rule held up) because you can't see the ball (i.e. you must assume that the ball was grounded) but in nearly 100% of cases the video ref will rule "Ref's call". This is the ref & video ref making their own rules up.

 

[DeathMoth]

that idea does have its merits but it fails to allow the video ref to chime in on coms to let the ref know of something they didn't see.

 

[ABshark]

Not sure you read it in one of my posts, but I have been pushing that idea for years.

Me too! There's too much psychological pressure on the refs to go with or against the flow of the game. If you could keep them in isolation, not let them know the season situation or even which team was which that would be all the better.

Rothfield's suggestion of only having the best four video refs doing games each week is another good one. At least that way you get the best 4 (or perhaps 5 if there are games in Melbourne/Canberra/Perth/Auckland/Townsville one weekend) guys making all the calls.

 

[ABshark]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/take-the-whistle-away-from-one-nrl-referee-fox-sports-news-reporter-bernie-coen-says/story-fn2mcuj6-1226453842054

Good article and a good idea. The whole 'get rid of the second ref' brigade fail to note that it has improved the flow and speed of the ruck significantly. The game has been much more even paced, though it does accelerate late in each half- a good thing IMO.

Getting rid of the second whistle would make the decision making more consistent while keeping that extra set of eyes.

 

[Mark^Bastard]

I agree too.

 

[Sixgill]

Not sure you read it in one of my posts, but I have been pushing that idea for years.

It's quite possible Burgess.

 

[thedarkshark]

another thing, the ref's are scared ****less to blow a whistle in golden point,the amount of time players are off side is a ****ing joke,players and coaches know this and take full advantage of it

 

[GymeaGorilla 72]

Coulnt agree more, in Friday night Ennis was standing a metre and a half in front Maxwell when the tigers went for one of their field goals and nothing. You may aswell just make it a cage fight throw the ball in the middle and let them fight it out

another thing, the ref's are scared ****less to blow a whistle in golden point,the amount of time players are off side is a ****ing joke,players and coaches know this and take full advantage of it