what would be your top 17 next year

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Gallen playing prop would solve alot of problems for us although I would like Flanno to explain why he would like him there and Gal get the choice. I know that's not how it should work but I feel we owe that to Gal.
 

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It made more sense but he is now the starting prop for Australia and NSW which in my eyes pushes Gibbs or Ross to the bench and Green/Tafua to NSW Cup.

It wont happen though until Gal wants it to happen and as Dean said, I think its the way it should be.
 

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Gallen is a better back rower than prop I reckon. He's a waste at prop. How much you reckon he's on? 500k? Yeah let's play a 500k player at prop and have him bash it up then replaced by Gibbs hahaha.
 

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Hahaha...ok, enough jokin about.

Gallen plays backrower more like a prop than any other backrower in the comp, hence his selection at prop. I don't think it would change his game much to be honest. I think he would probably play less minutes which might help his career.
 

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The idea of taga in the centres is mouth watering coz he is just such a big human, however i cant see him having the agility to really mark up in defence against quality opposition. Best and Pomeroy for me.
 

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Hahaha...ok, enough jokin about.

Gallen plays backrower more like a prop than any other backrower in the comp, hence his selection at prop. I don't think it would change his game much to be honest. I think he would probably play less minutes which might help his career.

Gallen plays back rower like Gallen. The fact he can do hit ups and bench the line doesn't mean that's all he should do. He combined well with top 5 players in rep games even in backline movements. The Sharks need to use him the right way. The main issue is stopping him from having full control over the team. Putting him at prop to fix that problem is a god damn waste of the best forward in the world.
 

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Yeah AB - I can run with a fair bit of that - but some questions...

Can we teach graham to kick accurately? He has a massive boot on him. That won't matter if he goes to lock.

He goes alright. Ordinary for a halfback, okay for a 5/8th, great for a lock. I would prefer the 7 Carney, 6 Kelly, 13 Graham combination but I can see Flano going with the other.

Is AK going to be tough enough to handle 5/8? I have concerns about his ability to stay injury free. This worries me worse if he come off the bench.

I think so. He's as tall as Barrett and puts his body on the line. One broken leg doesn't make him fragile.

Will flanno let Gal play front row?

Probably not. But this is my team, not Flano's!!

Gallen playing prop would solve alot of problems for us although I would like Flanno to explain why he would like him there and Gal get the choice. I know that's not how it should work but I feel we owe that to Gal.

Explain it to him by all means, but don't let him choose. We're paying the bloke a mint and he plays where the coach tells him to, like every other player.

Mark- its not so much a question of whether Gal plays back row or prop, its about whether he's better in the ruck or on the fringe. He's clearly a much better player in the ruck- I doubt anyone would argue with that. But Smith is a 100% ruck player too, and not really a prop. To get Gal in the ruck, the best way to do it is to play him at prop- which is not in any way risky given his form there against the best props in the world. Gallen/Ross/Gibbs/Fifita would be one of the best prop rotations in the NRL. Smith/Bukuya or Frizell/Graham/Tupou/Taga would grow to be one of the best backrow groups in the comp. Where is the issue? Its just in this focus on Gal having to play wide.

As for wasting his talent... there's no reason he can't use his ball skills when he's in the middle of the park. He did that this year to great effect. The little tip-ons from Smith, Gal and Taga were hugely effective at getting each other one-on-one with their opposites and gaining a quick play the ball or even a linebreak. Also, I would bring Gibbs on for Smith and have Gal shift back to the backrow. He wouldn't be wasted at all- he would be the most valuable tight forward in the game. Who wouldn't want their No. 1 prop making 200m a game, especially when their others can back that up with 100m games and linebreak/LBAs (Fifita)?

As I said, I doubt Flano does it. But I think he should. It may not be ideal, but its simply the best formation for the players we have.
 

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The main issue is stopping him from having full control over the team. Putting him at prop to fix that problem is a god damn waste of the best forward in the world.

That wasn't my reason but I agree with what you are saying.

I just think we are a better team with all our backrow talent in the 17 (Smith, Bukuya, Taga, Frizz, Toops, Graham). Flanno has said that he will run with 2 props on the bench. I don't see Taga as a prop so if someone was going to, surely its the guy that does it for his country.

In saying that I would be more than happy if J. Smith pushed into prop and Gal was left at lock but I think that is a less likely scenario.
 

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How about we call Taga a bench prop right, and have Gallen starting in the back row and let Gibbs and Ross do the boofhead prop work to get the game started.

Then when Taga and Fifita come on, Gallen goes tighter to sure up the middle and help these less conventional props out.

I reckon that'd really screw with the opposition.

If Gallen is going to play some prop and some back row then I'd rather he start in the back row basically. I think most of us here see him being tight some time and wider other times, and let's face it having some freedom to move around as well. If he's gunna do that I reckon do it from the 13 jersey and have our bigger guys on for the opening 20 which is the hardest part of the game in a 'stupid' way. Gibbs and Ross can weather that storm.
 

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Just thinking out loud.

Imagine we have Tupou, Bukuya, Tagataese, Gallen and Fifita on at once. Gallen in the middle, Taga and Fifita either side, and then Tupou and Bukuya either side of them. Just for an amount of time anyway. That's freaking lethal right there.
 

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Just thinking out loud.

Imagine we have Tupou, Bukuya, Tagataese, Gallen and Fifita on at once. Gallen in the middle, Taga and Fifita either side, and then Tupou and Bukuya either side of them. Just for an amount of time anyway. That's freaking lethal right there.

Played right there is points there
 

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Just thinking out loud.

Imagine we have Tupou, Bukuya, Tagataese, Gallen and Fifita on at once. Gallen in the middle, Taga and Fifita either side, and then Tupou and Bukuya either side of them. Just for an amount of time anyway. That's freaking lethal right there.

My wang just moved.

Combine that with Carney, Kelly and Graham and I wouldn't swap it with any team in the comp.
 

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My starting 17 for Sharks
1. Nathan Gardner/Nathan Stapleton/Albert Kelly/Todd Carney
2. John Williams
3. Colin Best/Matthew Wright
4. Nathan Stapleton/Stewart Mills
5. Stewart Mills/Isaac Gordon/Nathan Stapleton
6. Todd Carney/Albert Kelly/Wade Graham
7. Wade Graham/Chad Townsend/Albert Kelly/Jeff Robson/Todd Carney
8. Bryce Gibbs
9. John Morris/Isaac De Gois/Jeff Robson
10. Ben Ross
11. Jeremy Smith/Paul Gallen
12. Anthony Tupou
13. Paul Gallen/Wade Graham
Interchange
14. Jeff Robson
15. Mark Taufua/Andrew Fifita
16. Sam Tagataese/Jon Green
17. Josh Cordoba
 

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I would be very surprised if Gallen doesn't spend some minutes on the field every match at prop. I think he will be in our prop rotation just not as a prop.... If that makes sense?
 

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If we have Graham in the back row (will play 80 or close to it) and Toops coming off the bench (will come on at about the 20 min mark and prob won't go off again) then its pretty obvious that Gallen and Smith will spend some time in the front row.
 

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I don't think it matters what number Gal has on his back, he plays like a prop any way, eats up the metres, and can tackle all day like a second rower.
 
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