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He does his job with a minimum of fuss. I wasn't too sure of him first up, I didn't think there was anything special about him. But I would not swap him for anyone at the moment and if there was a City v Country game I reckon he'd go close to getting a jumper.
 

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He does his job with a minimum of fuss. I wasn't too sure of him first up, I didn't think there was anything special about him. But I would not swap him for anyone at the moment and if there was a City v Country game I reckon he'd go close to getting a jumper.
100%. There is a certain Titans back rower on $1m+ per year. Dollar for dollar I know who is better off.
 
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100%. There is a certain Titans back rower on $1m+ per year. Dollar for dollar I know who is better off.
I love Teig, but Fifita is immense. He is so far ahead of others in his position and is copping way too much in the media.
 
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Going well & has pretty much near established himself as one of first two second towers picked in our squad.
If I could get him to be mindful of anything, try to limit the cheap penalties he can give away occasionally.
 

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Going well & has pretty much near established himself as one of first two second towers picked in our squad.
If I could get him to be mindful of anything, try to limit the cheap penalties he can give away occasionally.
Yes, this.

I honestly don't think though that the media know him all that well at the moment. I think he is still overshadowed by Wade, Cam, Nikora and even Jack Williams at the moment. Thoroughly unfair though, at the moment he is playing better than any of those players.
 

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He does his job with a minimum of fuss. I wasn't too sure of him first up, I didn't think there was anything special about him. But I would not swap him for anyone at the moment and if there was a City v Country game I reckon he'd go close to getting a jumper.
Not a direct comparison between players but what is special about him is more like what was special about Cordner... seems to have guts and effort beyond your average player. Similar to what made Luke Lewis a great edge player, but Luke a bit more different coming from being a winger.

Going well & has pretty much near established himself as one of first two second towers picked in our squad.
If I could get him to be mindful of anything, try to limit the cheap penalties he can give away occasionally.
At 186 I wouldn't call him a tower but he has definitely been massive for us this season

I love Teig, but Fifita is immense. He is so far ahead of others in his position and is copping way too much in the media.
Bad luck for him, deserves to cop it in the media... well I don't know if 'deserves' is the right word.
But if you want to take the million+ payday to go an be a clubs star and saviour then you should expect to wear the pressure.
We have seen a few falter under the eye of fans, opposition supporters and media. If he was on 800k do you think the coach would be moving him to centre and bench and edge all the time 'trying to unlock him' or just let him play what he is good at?
We saw Ash Taylor mentally crumble under the pressure and perhaps his body crumbled with him, I would expect he'd have had a better career if he'd stayed at broncos for 2/3 as much. (Actually sounds like signing with Titans might be the problem)

The difference is the likes of Tedesco, Turbo, DCE, Grant who build up into these big paydays at the club they are already at. They are proven performers there and the pressure doesn't come nearly as much when it is just an 'upgrade'. Also worth noting all the examples I though of there were spine players where they are naturally on the ball more, don't need to try and force it or gimmick it.

Fifita can does and will continue to win them games but it is very hard to get 1.2 million value from him week in week out in an otherwise weaker team he is supposed to be the saviour of from the edge.
 
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Not a direct comparison between players but what is special about him is more like what was special about Cordner... seems to have guts and effort beyond your average player.


At 186 I wouldn't call him a tower but he has definitely been massive for us this season


Bad luck for him, deserves to cop it in the media... well I don't know if 'deserves' is the right word.
But if you want to take the million+ payday to go an be a clubs star and saviour then you should expect to wear the pressure.
We have seen a few falter under the eye of fans, opposition supporters and media. If he was on 800k do you think the coach would be moving him to centre and bench and edge all the time 'trying to unlock him' or just let him play what he is good at?
We saw Ash Taylor mental crumble under the pressure and perhaps his body crumbled with him, I would expect he'd have had a better career if he'd stayed at broncos for 2/3 as much.

The difference is the likes of Tedesco, Turbo, DCE, Grant who build up into these big paydays at the club they are already at. They are proven performers there and the pressure doesn't come nearly as much when it is just an 'upgrade'. Also worth noting all the examples I though of there were spine players where they are naturally on the ball more, don't need to try and force it or gimmick it.

Fifita can does and will continue to win them games but it is very hard to get 1.2 million value from him week in week out in an otherwise weaker team he is supposed to be the saviour of from the edge.
Haha, typo, didn’t mean tower, meant rower, as in 2nd rower
 
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Fifita is immense when he wants to be
I think they just don't think their halves/spine know how to use him properly. Last year he absolutely earned his salary, he was practically better than the next two edge back-rowers combined. This year their whole side is stinking, but he is still creating something from nothing every other game. Their whole side can be better, him included. I'd still take him on $1M.
 
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The difference is the likes of Tedesco, Turbo, DCE, Grant who build up into these big paydays at the club they are already at. They are proven performers there and the pressure doesn't come nearly as much when it is just an 'upgrade'. Also worth noting all the examples I though of there were spine players where they are naturally on the ball more, don't need to try and force it or gimmick it.
I think another difference is the sides they play for. When you have a strong surrounding cast it is easier to play to your value. I think if Fifita was playing at the Roosters, Manly or Melbourne it would be a different story.
 

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I think they just don't think their halves/spine know how to use him properly. Last year he absolutely earned his salary, he was practically better than the next two edge back-rowers combined. This year their whole side is stinking, but he is still creating something from nothing every other game. Their whole side can be better, him included. I'd still take him on $1M.
They definitely have a developing spine.
Next year will be interesting, I assume Brimmo at the back with Foran and Sexton in the halves... but the worse their team does the harder it is for Fifita to do what he is good at, the more media and fans pressure for him to do more given the cash he's on. He can't run at a retreating defence from 30 out if they never win field position and ruck battles, and moving him to centre doesn't fix that.

Foran move is interesting. If I was The I would go hard to get Jayden Campbell to break contract. Super exciting young player and attacking dynamo, famous family, dad was the OG Titan he can be the OG Dolphin.
Worst case you have Isaako there who is a very competent fullback#2
But short of a Munster, Ponga, Walsh type I think young JC would be a slam-dunk signing for them.

I think another difference is the sides they play for. When you have a strong surrounding cast it is easier to play to your value. I think if Fifita was playing at the Roosters, Manly or Melbourne it would be a different story.
For sure, probably unlikely those sides spend that much money to poach him though, which also means less pressure on him and more cash in rest of the squad which means... better support and less pressure on him. Even if he did sign for 1.2 with them they are better enough in other areas to win those rucks and field position to put him in a position to succeed.
He's pretty much taken the most money he can get in exchange for putting himself in the most difficult possible circumstance and the only one who can prove he is worth it is him.
 
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Not a direct comparison between players but what is special about him is more like what was special about Cordner... seems to have guts and effort beyond your average player.


At 186 I wouldn't call him a tower but he has definitely been massive for us this season


Bad luck for him, deserves to cop it in the media... well I don't know if 'deserves' is the right word.
But if you want to take the million+ payday to go an be a clubs star and saviour then you should expect to wear the pressure.
We have seen a few falter under the eye of fans, opposition supporters and media. If he was on 800k do you think the coach would be moving him to centre and bench and edge all the time 'trying to unlock him' or just let him play what he is good at?
We saw Ash Taylor mental crumble under the pressure and perhaps his body crumbled with him, I would expect he'd have had a better career if he'd stayed at broncos for 2/3 as much.

The difference is the likes of Tedesco, Turbo, DCE, Grant who build up into these big paydays at the club they are already at. They are proven performers there and the pressure doesn't come nearly as much when it is just an 'upgrade'. Also worth noting all the examples I though of there were spine players where they are naturally on the ball more, don't need to try and force it or gimmick it.

Fifita can does and will continue to win them games but it is very hard to get 1.2 million value from him week in week out in an otherwise weaker team he is supposed to be the saviour of from the edge.
Haha, typo, didn’t mean tower, meant rower, as in 2nd rower
 
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They definitely have a developing spine.
Next year will be interesting, I assume Brimmo at the back with Foran and Sexton in the halves... but the worse their team does the harder it is for Fifita to do what he is good at, the more media and fans pressure for him to do more given the cash he's on. He can't run at a retreating defence from 30 out if they never win field position and ruck battles, and moving him to centre doesn't fix that.

Foran move is interesting. If I was The I would go hard to get Jayden Campbell to break contract. Super exciting young player and attacking dynamo, famous family, dad was the OG Titan he can be the OG Dolphin.
Worst case you have Isaako there who is a very competent fullback#2
But short of a Munster, Ponga, Walsh type I think young JC would be a slam-dunk signing for them.


For sure, probably unlikely those sides spend that much money to poach him though, which also means less pressure on him and more cash in rest of the squad which means... better support and less pressure on him. Even if he did sign for 1.2 with them they are better enough in other areas to win those rucks and field position to put him in a position to succeed.
He's pretty much taken the most money he can get in exchange for putting himself in the most difficult possible circumstance and the only one who can prove he is worth it is him.
Yep there are all sorts of strange things happening up there and Holbrook is starting to look sus. You let fogarty move on for brimson to play 6, but that experiment seemed to get abandoned quickly. I like the titans so I hope they can get sorted but it's not looking good at the moment.

I agree JC would be a good signing for The. You'd think under Wayne he'd find a way to become a genuine star also. The kind of guy they need behind that solid pack we discussed the other day.

Side composition is everything, and he has pressure this year but I thought he copped it last year too. Despite having one of the best seasons by an edge back rower ever. At least offensively anyway.
 

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I think another difference is the sides they play for. When you have a strong surrounding cast it is easier to play to your value. I think if Fifita was playing at the Roosters, Manly or Melbourne it would be a different story.
If there's any bloke that'd benefit from those push support players in motion it'd be DFitita. Would run riot with us or Melbourne.
 
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