Sharks Forever First Choice 2011 Taupo Round 4 2011: Photo Diary Part 2

What Halves Combo Do You Want?

  • 7 Smith 6 Graham

    Votes: 33 52.4%
  • 7 Smith 6 Kelly

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 7 Graham 6 Kelly

    Votes: 10 15.9%
  • 7 Graham 6 Smith

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • 7 Kelly 6 Graham

    Votes: 19 30.2%
  • 7 Kelly 6 Smith

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .

Tyger Sharky

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Sorry about the delay guys but I'm back for these threads.

The final three halves were Tim Smith, Wade Graham and Albert Kelly.

What do you want as your combination?
 

Mark^Bastard

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7 Graham 6 Kelly

Of course I'd be happy if Smith does come good, I just don't really see it happening.
 

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So, who drops off the bench? Aiton?

nope. i believe we can have a 2 forward rotation off the bench in mannah and vave.

so my bench would be

14. aiton
15. mannah
16. vave
17. kelly

snowy and dougy can play long minutes. we dont need 3 front rowers on the bench.

gal, toops and smith can play 80 minutes.

rotate mannah, vave, snowy and dougy, with one of either snowy and dougy on the field at any time. we cant have both of them off at the same time at all.

inject kelly in bits and pieces to give him experience with not much pressure.
 

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So, who drops off the bench? Aiton?

I like the idea of an 80min hooker, it frees up another spot on the bench. I think Aiten looks to be capable. If we can do that then drop morris off the bench. I personally think kelly looks like a 5/8 not a half. All the signs for smith preseason are good and if that carries on through the season - leave him at half, kelly to 5/8 and move wade to lock. This is also given that kelly performs.
 

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7) Kelly
6) Graham

For my own interests sake, why that numbering? What role would you see the two playing?

In my opinion I'd have Graham in the 7 because I think of Kelly more as a back with elusive footwork at speed, where as I see Graham having a cooler head, being more organised, and being right at home in the ruck. His running game is more physical and direct I find and I reckon having a half back like that will be awesome.

But I respect your opinion and would like to hear it.
 

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For my own interests sake, why that numbering? What role would you see the two playing?

In my opinion I'd have Graham in the 7 because I think of Kelly more as a back with elusive footwork at speed, where as I see Graham having a cooler head, being more organised, and being right at home in the ruck. His running game is more physical and direct I find and I reckon having a half back like that will be awesome.

But I respect your opinion and would like to hear it.

I don't mind that way of thinking.

I'm currently undecided on the halves issue.
 

Blair

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I think Smith deserves first crack and I think he will get it. As I mentioned in another thread I saw him the other day and he looks the fittest and biggest I have seen him. If he is putting in at training than he has the ability to turn things around.
 

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nope. i believe we can have a 2 forward rotation off the bench in mannah and vave.

so my bench would be

14. aiton
15. mannah
16. vave
17. kelly

snowy and dougy can play long minutes. we dont need 3 front rowers on the bench.

gal, toops and smith can play 80 minutes.

rotate mannah, vave, snowy and dougy, with one of either snowy and dougy on the field at any time. we cant have both of them off at the same time at all.

inject kelly in bits and pieces to give him experience with not much pressure.
I think thats asking for trouble.
Alot of forwards can play 80mins, just not many can do it effectively. Thats when crucial missed tackles and errors turn into points against. The teams that have 1 or 2 extra forwards in their rotation will dominate the meters and make it hard for your backs - no matter how fresh they are your halves off the bench would be wasted. Come the 60min mark when your forward rotation has been worn down, backs like Slater & Campbell will split your ruck like hot butter.

The forwards that can play 80mins, while it is a handy option in times of injury and rotation strategy - They seem to be much more effective with 5-10mins of bench time durring the game. John Cartwright used to play Harrison, Minichiello, Harrison and Bailey for 80mins and have 2 backs on the bench. Come 60mins, and our forwards were less effective and started dropping balls at crucial times. Our backline rarely got their chances.
When he started putting 3 (sometimes 4) forwards on the bench and giving Harrison, Minichiello, Harrison and Bailey 5-10mins of rest - Titans started dominating meters and field position. Guys like Mark Minichiello went from 3-4 errors per game to zero - and in the frame of rep selection.


Wade seems to be your top half, so stick with him in either position then trial his combinations with Smith & Kelly to see what works. Don't make the year to long and hard for your forwards (no doubt they'll have rep duties on top) and keep at least 3 forwards in the bench. Just my $0.02
 

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i think smith & graham will be our round 1 halves combination, but i hope kelly,s trial form is good enough to force his way in to the team.
 

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my reasoning for not wanting kelly in for the first 3-4 weeks are, we play canberra st george penrith and the warriors
all good teams with big packs that will target him his confidence could get shattered straight away

my reasoning for wanting him there are, his running game
his quick darts and good footwork could open up the big forward packs we are playing against

that said, i would rather smith start the year, and kelly earn a call up
 

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I'd like to see the guy who has the better trial form given the nod next to Graham at pivot- whichever bloke that is.
 

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This poll has been suprising, a lot of people going for smith at 7.
 

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This poll has been suprising, a lot of people going for smith at 7.

I don't have the benefit of seeing their current training form, fitness, mindset...

I chose Smith at 7 for his experience and Graham at 6 because I'm pretty sure that's why we bought him!

I'd love to see Kelly in his preferred spot soon though.
 
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