sam tomkins eyes move to nrl

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no way, based on the following (in no particular order)

1) he weighs 78kg
2) untried in the NRL
3) will cost big money or a decent amount of our salary cap
4) we already have people in his preferred positions already (they may not be as good but the difference in his potential salary v theirs makes me think we are better off with what we have
5) he wont domnate in year 1 of his contact & probably not even in his 2nd year so we would potentially have to wait for year 3 for him to be worth his money
 
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I disagree with point 5

mate if we got him I hope you are right but dont forget A Morley who upon his arrival at the roosters was alreay touted a world class player who had more than held his own at inernational level for a number of yrs not to mention in the english SL (which is hard to gauge how good a player will go in Oz anyway).

Also Moz was mid 20's when he arrived, I think Tomkins is very early 20's, has only played at international level for 2 yrs, the worst part is he is 78kgs, how many guts kick arse in the NRL AT 78kgs, let alone in year 1 plus all the other stuff I said.
 

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Do people forget that Gards would only be around 78kgs?

Tomkins is a better finisher and play maker than Gardner but yet wont make it cause he's too small? Double standards.
 
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Gards aint gunna cost what Tomkins is likely to cost & do you think for the outlay or the added cost Tomkins would likely cost to bring over is worth it compared to what we are are paying Gards?
 

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The article said he's in the shape of Brett Hogson, he's more like..60kgs.
 

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Gards aint gunna cost what Tomkins is likely to cost & do you think for the outlay or the added cost Tomkins would likely cost to bring over is worth it compared to what we are are paying Gards?

I agree that he will cost way too much and that we would get more value out of Gards on his current contract.

But I think it's pretty funny that a few guys are writting him off because he weighs 78kgs and won't be able to handle the NRL.
 

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Is fullback the only spot he'll play now?

I agree that he will cost way too much and that we would get more value out of Gards on his current contract.

But I think it's pretty funny that a few guys are writting him off because he weighs 78kgs and won't be able to handle the NRL.

I agree, the only way I'd probably pay the motza Tomkins will want is if Gardner leaves.
 
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Is fullback the only spot he'll play now?



I agree, the only way I'd probably pay the motza Tomkins will want is if Gardner leaves.

He's content at fullback, but I guess he would play in the halves if his team needed him there. Does a great job at 1,6,7.
 

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He's content at fullback, but I guess he would play in the halves if his team needed him there. Does a great job at 1,6,7.

Well if he plays 7 or 6, then yes, but not at the price he wants, and only if all our other options aren't up to scratch, especially Townsend and Kelly, we need to give them every chance to develop.
 

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If we didn't have Carney I would have said go for it. We need a centre we have Tomkins positions covered and covered well !! Pass !!
 

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definately not a 500k half. Would rather throw that money at Cronk for 7, with Carney at 5/8. Now we are talking! :)

Yeah I wouldn't pay 500K for him at any position. Great player but no needed here. Cronk would be the absolute perfect partner for Carney. Couldn't think of a better 7 to pair up with Todd.

He is only 20 and was eligible to play NYC last year. So at least 2 more!

Exactly. We've re-signed Wright until 2013 anyway so we might as well give him a genuine chance at his prefered spot. Otherwise we wouldn't have signed him to a 2nd deal if Flanno didn't see potential.
 
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