Round 25 Cronulla Sutherland Sharks vs Sydney Roosters, Saturday 26th August @ Southern Cross Group Stadium 7:30pm

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The difference is last year we showed good form throughout the year, it's been very, very rare this year.

Not gonna happen. Week 2 of the finals is the absolute furthest we will get this year.

Not sure whether it's feasible but if we could get Cowboys and then Roosters we could make it a game further.
 

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I agree. Holding down was rampant. To let it go 100 times and then call it in front of the sticks is BS. I would also argue that Cordner placed the ball before trying to get up. Players have been penalised in possession for doing that.

My other thoughts ...

Segy is useless.
Lewis is a Ninja
Beale is looking like a decent NRL winger over the last month.
The commentators last night were so Roosters biased it was embarrassing
Yeah I thought you weren't allowed to do that. I must be thinking about last week's rules though.
 

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I see the Cordner penalty as a bit like when a dummy half deliberately throws the ball into a player lying in ruck and the referee has "no choice" but to blow a penalty.

Its like the player is making the decisions for the ref.
 

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I agree. Holding down was rampant. To let it go 100 times and then call it in front of the sticks is BS. I would also argue that Cordner placed the ball before trying to get up. Players have been penalised in possession for doing that.

My other thoughts ...

Segy is useless.
Lewis is a Ninja
Beale is looking like a decent NRL winger over the last month.
The commentators last night were so Roosters biased it was embarrassing
We lose every time the opposition are allowed to wrestle, because it's not our style so we don't benefit. We don't get excessive numbers in and we don't obsess over putting every player in their back. I think the future of league is dependent on policing the ruck, specifically the speed of the play the ball. It's a game killer, and spectacle killer. It's beyond me why players are not required to release and roll away from the ruck the moment held is called. The problem is they allow defenders to get to their feet and then get out of the ruck, when the defenders should be required to release and attempt to roll away straight away. They are not entitled to be standing when the ball is played. What this would do is reduce players in the defensive line on the next play, so teams would think twice about getting 3 and 4 in every tackle. At the moment the opposition can tackle Fifita with 4 players, and their is no disadvantage. In every other sport if you double or triple team in defence, it leaves a hole elsewhere. League needs to let those holes occur. We're creating the very thing that the detractors say is bad about League, that it's stop start and has no flow. Sorry about the manifesto but it's a pet hate.
 
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We lose every time the opposition are allowed to wrestle, because it's not our style so we don't benefit. We don't get excessive numbers in and we don't obsess over putting every player in their back. I think the future of league is dependent on policing the ruck, specifically the speed of the play the ball. It's a game killer, and spectacle killer. It's beyond me why players are not required to release and roll away from the ruck the moment held is called. The problem is they allow defenders to get to their feet and then get out of the ruck, when the defenders should be required to release and attempt to roll away straight away. They are not entitled to be standing when the ball is played. What this would do is reduce players in the defensive line on the next play, so teams would think twice about getting 3 and 4 in every tackle. At the moment the opposition can tackle Fifita with 4 players, and their is no disadvantage. In every other sport if you double or triple team in defence, it leaves a hole elsewhere. League needs to let those holes occur. We're creating the very thing that the detractors say is bad about League, that it's stop start and has no flow. Sorry about the manifesto but it's a pet hate.

Agree with this mate, but if you read other team's forums, they all think the same thing about their club. That the opposition are allowed to lie all over their players and get away with it.
The Chookpen was complaining about it before our game on the weekend.

Every team thinks they are hard done by the refs.
The sad fact is that they aren't good because they are run by an inept leader who puts being politically correct in front of the good of the game.
 

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this was a strange, strange game

this is a re-watch before the finals as there was some brilliant stuff and some absolute **** stuff
 

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Yes the attacker needs to get to his feet to play the ball but the defender or tackler cannot hold on indefinitely either. Maybe if Cordner doesn't try to play the ball we avoid the penalty but end of the day Gal was still hanging on a tad too long.

Flanno is kidding himself in the press conference complaining that if it was Fifita getting tackled in that situation the ref's wouldn't have awarded us a penatly - Fifita constantly milks the play the ball area not rising to his feat to play it, he is lucky he doesn't get penalised for it frankly.

As for comments in here about wrestling, well yea we do it as well maybe not as good as other teams though and we beat the storm in the GF who are the best at it. If your forwards arn't running straight and hard though it's much more likely for the gang tackle to wrestle you around as they please. You either gotta punch through with good impact on first contact or get to your knees and concede the tackle ASAP.
 

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We lose every time the opposition are allowed to wrestle, because it's not our style so we don't benefit. We don't get excessive numbers in and we don't obsess over putting every player in their back. I think the future of league is dependent on policing the ruck, specifically the speed of the play the ball. It's a game killer, and spectacle killer. It's beyond me why players are not required to release and roll away from the ruck the moment held is called. The problem is they allow defenders to get to their feet and then get out of the ruck, when the defenders should be required to release and attempt to roll away straight away. They are not entitled to be standing when the ball is played. What this would do is reduce players in the defensive line on the next play, so teams would think twice about getting 3 and 4 in every tackle. At the moment the opposition can tackle Fifita with 4 players, and their is no disadvantage. In every other sport if you double or triple team in defence, it leaves a hole elsewhere. League needs to let those holes occur. We're creating the very thing that the detractors say is bad about League, that it's stop start and has no flow. Sorry about the manifesto but it's a pet hate.
A lot of people in the wider League community say that we are wrestlers. I don't see it.

Totally agree with what you have said.
 

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flanno is kidding himself if he blamed anyone other than chad townsend on the night

2 mistakes lead to points and ultimately cost us the game

plus his running and kicking were abysmal
 

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A lot of people in the wider League community say that we are wrestlers. I don't see it.

Totally agree with what you have said.
From what I see we often only have two in the tackle. In fact I've often wondered if it's a tactic of ours to make sure the defensive line doesn't get too thin. How can we wrestle when we're terrible at getting players on their back?
 
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