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If you want to talk money and future financial plans, see the Development and Leagues Club Merger threads.
Round 12, 2011: Cronulla Sutherland Sharks v Melbourne Storm @ AAMI Park, Sunday 29 May 2.00pm
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If you want to talk money and future financial plans, see the Development and Leagues Club Merger threads.
Sharky Pete
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No they seem to be part of the Benji Marshall Butt Buddies Association these days.
I see that many ****ing Wests Tigers and South Sydney jerseys in the Shire these days, it's become a sick joke.
Problem we have is we do still have a lot of Shire support, they are just closet,fairweather supporters that dust off the jersey when we're winning.
Blix
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hahaha, that is gold, great work Iron !!!!
slide rule
Jaws
I don't know if you guys realise this or not, but all clubs have fair-weathered fans. If any other club had the same on field performance as us for the last couple of years, they would have the same crowds.
In fact, I think most of our crowds have been ok this year when we have received decent scheduling and weather.
Sure, it's disappointing but that's human nature. South Sydney were getting woeful crowds when they were going through their tough period. But look at them now. Things change.
In fact, I think most of our crowds have been ok this year when we have received decent scheduling and weather.
Sure, it's disappointing but that's human nature. South Sydney were getting woeful crowds when they were going through their tough period. But look at them now. Things change.
A.Snowden
Jaws
Let's not forget we are the only team to beat the dragons, we flogged penrith, beat the roosters, and were competitive and for the most part the better team against a storm outfit that could have put 50 on us. It's not all doom and gloom. We are still to get gards, smith, Kelly and Williams back. Things could be worse. Let's show some support.
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100% true, I was just coming back into this thread to post the same.
Which for mine comes back to the ONE point.
The most important thing a club can do to increase their profitability is to win matches which generates ticket sales and food/alcohol takings.
(Yes some clubs make decent coin through pokies but we dont get enough people down there recking their lives to rely on this)
So...........
It is a massive cause and effect problem, being that players dont want to sign on at a losing club, which makes us pay more, and weakens the team as we are then paying overs, BUT, for mine we need to look as additional coaching and juniors. Especially as we are doing everything to get players here but it isnt happening.
Not a shot at Flanno either he has a hard job, I just wish we could get in some help, for example a halves coach would do wanders I reckon, we have 3 quality young halves here in Kelly, Townsend & Graham but they dont have any experienced halfs to learn from.
sharks2010
Dribbler
yeah but then there is parra game
no first grade game should go down like that. yes we had injuries but if you looked at there side it was not a 40 point win to them. they have an average side too
no first grade game should go down like that. yes we had injuries but if you looked at there side it was not a 40 point win to them. they have an average side too
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I agree we are close to having a quality team, we are no where near as bad as people make out.
sharks2010
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IronShark
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The solution is simple. Consistent, unwavering support year in, year out.
Sorry, I disagree with just about everything you said in that paragraph! There may be only 2189 members on this forum but are you suggesting the Sharks have only 2000 odd supporters in the Sutherland Shire? Clearly, that ain't true as we get about 10 thousand people to games each week, even though we are going poorly.
Like I said earlier, if everyone of those ten thousand were a member - and had been for ten years - we wouldn't be in this situation. There are more than enough Sharks supporters out there; they just need to put their money where their mouth is. As for Shire folk not being interested in the footy - we have one of the biggest junior comps in the world and Foxtel subscriptions in the Shire are one of the highest in the country. That's the problem, everyone likes the footy, they just won't get off their arse to support the team.
There was an article recently on the financial performance of each NRL club. One of the best was the Dragons owing purely to their large membership (20K+) base and strong merch sales. Like us, their Leagues Club is struggling and cut it's grant to the NRL club but they are going strong simply through bums on seats.
As for a rich benefactor, let's just see how that goes long term for these privately owned Clubs. It's early days yet but so far these Clubs have cost their owners millions of dollars. How long will they continue to put up with losing that sort of money? What happens if they decide to cut their losses and get out? Not alot of long term security there, I would suggest.
Mark^Bastard
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For me to support the team.
I made a thread about us getting to 7000 members and a few people signed up. When I come to this place, I do things like that. It's a bit harder than whining like a baby but I think it's worth the effort.
The Sharks have more members than ever before. The Sharks have better juniors than recent history. They have a NSW Cup team at the top of the ladder. The NRL team was right in a game against one of the best teams in the comp but came away with a narrow loss. They were away from home, had two prop injuries early in the game and had to play with 15 players. They had several of their best out before kick off including the two best players from the spine.
Seriously, get behind them. Try and convert that toddler rage into something constructive. Any success the Sharks have starts with us, and it needs to start now. If you think being a negative nancy on a forum is in any way going to magically fix the problems you perceive you are wrong. If you think having a sook here is a form of cathartic release that will go unpunished you are wrong. This isn't the Sharks supporters support forum, it's the Sharks supporters forum. There is a big difference.
sharks2010
Dribbler
it doesnt start with us sorry buddy
I'd like to see Sharks fans show the same level of energy, drive and commitment that our leader Paul Gallen puts in both on and off the field.
As long as he is fighting to death out there on the paddock, I'm on the sidelines giving MY team the support and encouragement that they need.
If it's good enough for Galza to remain competing and to never give up then it's right for me to take the same attitude.
A lot of you could learn a thing or two by seeing what he brings in terms of fighting spirit and courage.
As long as he is fighting to death out there on the paddock, I'm on the sidelines giving MY team the support and encouragement that they need.
If it's good enough for Galza to remain competing and to never give up then it's right for me to take the same attitude.
A lot of you could learn a thing or two by seeing what he brings in terms of fighting spirit and courage.
IronShark
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I'm pretty sure it does actually, mate! This Club was started by demand in the Shire for it's own team and succeeded despite contenders like Wentworthville having much more money.
Without supporters, there is no Club. Are you suggesting that if we had 50 thousand members, ala Hawthorn or other AFL Clubs, that our circumstances wouldn't be vastly different?
I'm not having a go at you, it's just a hypothetical...think about it. What do you think the differences could be?
WE can make that difference - it's just a matter of numbers. Just remember, the most important number is ONE (you). (Credit to Rollins for that last bit!)
sharks2010
Dribbler
its starts with the front office. many great coaches have said that
to become successful we need the good front office. we don't have this. we need a good CEO. look at the dogs. we have a good front office. we win games. we get more fans
just how it works unfortunately.
but iron it would be good to have that many member but it will never happen
to become successful we need the good front office. we don't have this. we need a good CEO. look at the dogs. we have a good front office. we win games. we get more fans
just how it works unfortunately.
but iron it would be good to have that many member but it will never happen
Mark^Bastard
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Are you a member sharks2010?
slide rule
Jaws
Flow chart of contribution.
Members > the Board > the "Front Office"> the Coach > the Team> Members
It's a cycle. Everyone needs to do their bit.
Members > the Board > the "Front Office"> the Coach > the Team> Members
It's a cycle. Everyone needs to do their bit.
sharks2010
Dribbler
yes and also brough all my gear from there. close to 300 this year
IronShark
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Unsurprisingly, the Dogs have got plenty of cash as they are one of the few Clubs whose Leagues Club is making a killing. Not hard to have a great front office when you have the money to pay them. If we were to get enough fans to become members, go to games etc, we would have money and could employ a great staff too! Like slide said, it's a cycle. The Dogs couldn't do it without the cash.
We actually have some great staff, we just need more of them. But that costs money. Money we dfon't have at the moment. But you know who does? Me and you and lot's of other Sharks fans!
Good onya mate, now make sure that is the case every year and find one more person to do the same!
sharks2010
Dribbler
i will always buy my gear from the club
last year i brought a jacket from the tab win from the eels game. i needed it thats for sure with the rain that night
last year i brought a jacket from the tab win from the eels game. i needed it thats for sure with the rain that night