Opinions needed.

[Nulla Boy]

souths problem was the whole off season.talking up the top 4 and being a premiership contender then having a great pre season i think the playes just got so much confidence that they believed it would just happen.unfortunatley making the 8 one year and having a good pre season doesnt make u automatic finalist in rd 1.
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[Bungy]

Good morning Sharkies & Sharkettes.
As a South Sydney supporter since 1967 it pains me to see my club going through this period of being the joke of the NRL.
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Then become a Sharks fan you'll probibly have more to cheer about

 

[Capital_Shark]

losing wing was the cruelest blow ive seen to a footy side in a long time.
Poor old jason taylor seriously looks like he is going to snap any day now, every interview he gives, he looks one step closer to the padded wall hotel.
it will turn around in time, i didnt think they were playing that bad, they just need one win and go from there.

haha your right. Old mate Taylor looks set to trade in his green and red pin stripe Armarni 2 sleeve for a single sleeve white number with buckles. Poor prick.

Is it just me but when Souths were winning I saw nothing of Shane Richardson and too much of Holmes a Court and Russell Crowe. Seems to me that now the going is tough they have said "over to you Shane " !

Its not just you. Last year you couldn't avoid PaC and Rusty, no matter what game of footy you were watching. All I've heard from Rusty this year was his movie with Denzel. A distinct lack of drifting cameras catching the two proud owners at each game this year too, compared to last.

I dunno if ya can blame any one thing on Souths' 2008. Obviously losing their half back in round 1 hurt. Then their brightest attacking spark in Isaac Luke compounded that. JT's inability to pick a team stick with it more than 1 round doesn't help either. They're already suffering the loss of Wing and Luke, now he's f-cking with any cohesion the team may of had by changing it each week. Its gonna take 17 committed men to turn around Souths' 2008 form and no one or two changes is gonna speed it up. His best bet IMO is picking his best available 17 and leaving the roster the f-ck alone for a month or so so those blokes can form some cohesion and suffer and work together to pull themselves through the other side ready for the return of Wing and Luke to help them tackle the back end of the season and launch themselves towards the finals.

And when JT has his core group on the paddock, DON'T INTERCHANGE THEM ALL AT ONCE.

 

[Great White]

I agree there, he should be sticking with a 90% core team especially in the halves. I thought against Dogs, Paea didn't go too bad, didn't kill it but not too bad, I think he should stay and stick with Paea and Rogers, Sutton at 13, and build the team around that.

 

[josho]

It's all been said but I think richardson has **** all to do with running the club anyway.

Hyping a team up, espescially all off season was always going to have a negative impact. All that Jacksonville, Hollywood, Armani, Book of Feuds BS. Alot of other teams would have been watching this and waiting for their chance to show up Souths. I mean all their garbage was pissing me and every one I know off, so I'm sure the oposition is no different. Book of Feuds, who gives a rats get over it. Need to focus on footy not all that other garbage.

Alot of players aren't digging in. I disagree, I think Asotasi isn't up to scratch, I mean i'd rather Douglas than Asotasi given the choice. And Kidwell **** me, he isn't he laughing fat paycheck **** all results. He should return all that monay ASAP.

Craig Wings injury would have hurt them mentally he was the Great White (brown) Hope. And Taylor was right the buck stops with him, stop changing the ****ing halves combination every week. They need time to gel, they need 4 weeks at least of game time together. If they're no good after that then change em. No combination is going to turn the team around over night or in 2 rounds.

Mate, don't mean to kick you when your down but I'm glad its happened, they got so full of themselves after one so so season. Look at the **** they gave us after the trial. I was there, bunch of clowns.

 

[kiwishark]

I agree there, he should be sticking with a 90% core team especially in the halves. I thought against Dogs, Paea didn't go too bad, didn't kill it but not too bad, I think he should stay and stick with Paea and Rogers, Sutton at 13, and build the team around that.

The problem is his roster too many of the cuzzies needs to change that, like I said there good when there on top but there confidence is down and it will be hard to lift that side,but if they can string a couple of wins then they could probably win 6 or 7 on the trot it is a confidence problem now

 

[Great White]

Not disagreeing with you there at all bro! Cher!

 

[Great White]

Sorry kiwishark, had to say it.

 

[Capital_Shark]

I agree there, he should be sticking with a 90% core team especially in the halves. I thought against Dogs, Paea didn't go too bad, didn't kill it but not too bad, I think he should stay and stick with Paea and Rogers, Sutton at 13, and build the team around that.

Yeah, he's just gotta admit that while he has options, none are that fantastic or give much more than another. Paea and Smith are not ideal, but he's gotta hand one a jersey and let him hold onto it until Wing comes back. Give some sense of stability to Sutton by picking him at 6 or 13 and leaving that too. The kid is class and will go alright wherever, but I agree 13 is his spot. Finally with Rogers on field I think they look more dangerous and a little better directed. He's a decent ball player and ball runner, and seems to have more idea than the others of when to take a settler or when to lay something on. Ndaria just needs to run well from dummy half and give Asotasi, Sutton and Rogers the ball when they want it. Get Talanoa backing up through the middle of the field from fullback, or get Merritt in there if he Talanoa won't or can't.

Behind Asotasi, Manukafoa, Kidwell, Fa'logo, Widders and whoever else I left out from the pack Souths should be in every game they play, and with a touch of confidence and each bloke playing simple, hard, competitive football they ought to bag a couple competition points and grow confidence.

 

[kiwishark]

Sorry kiwishark, had to say it.

CHUR CHUR

 

[kiwishark]

Yeah, he's just gotta admit that while he has options, none are that fantastic or give much more than another. Paea and Smith are not ideal, but he's gotta hand one a jersey and let him hold onto it until Wing comes back. Give some sense of stability to Sutton by picking him at 6 or 13 and leaving that too. The kid is class and will go alright wherever, but I agree 13 is his spot. Finally with Rogers on field I think they look more dangerous and a little better directed. He's a decent ball player and ball runner, and seems to have more idea than the others of when to take a settler or when to lay something on. Ndaria just needs to run well from dummy half and give Asotasi, Sutton and Rogers the ball when they want it. Get Talanoa backing up through the middle of the field from fullback, or get Merritt in there if he Talanoa won't or can't.

Behind Asotasi, Manukafoa, Kidwell, Fa'logo, Widders and whoever else I left out from the pack Souths should be in every game they play, and with a touch of confidence and each bloke playing simple, hard, competitive football they ought to bag a couple competition points and grow confidence.

How far away is Luke cause him and Wing will form a lethal pairing when fit....

 

[Capital_Shark]

How far away is Luke cause him and Wing will form a lethal pairing when fit....

Not sure. Broken hand 2 or 3 weeks ago wasn't it? How long does a hand take to heal? Maybe 3-4 till he's back .. Just a stab in the dark.

But if Isaac Luke keeps improving at his current rate he'll be a world beater in no time. Tough, no nonsense, well grounded raw talent who gets better every week. He'll figure into the Kiwi's team for the WC without a doubt, even if Fien finds another great grand parent who once ordered fush and chups by mistake.

But I agree, Luke and Wing working off the back of an inform Asotasi and co should see PaC and Rusty come out of hiding to sprout off half c0cked again.

 

[bort]

But if Isaac Luke keeps improving at his current rate he'll be a world beater in no time. Tough, no nonsense, well grounded raw talent who gets better every week. He'll figure into the Kiwi's team for the WC without a doubt, even if Fien finds another great grand parent who once ordered fush and chups by mistake.

fien can do one better, he now qualifies under residency.
but i agree hes no luke

 

[bort]

much better team from the rabbits, now stick with it!

1. Fetuli Talanoa
2. Nathan Merritt
3. Nigel Vagana
4. Beau Champion
5. Germaine Paulson
6. Ben Rogers
7. Eddie Paea
8. Manase Manuokafoa
9. Issac Luke
10. Roy Asotasi (c)
11. David Kidwell (c)
12. David Fa’alogo
13. John Sutton


Interchange:


14. George Ndaira
15. Shannan McPherson
16. Luke Stuart
17. Jaiman Lowe

 

[Megashark]

Not too much wrong with that lineup, they look competitive, but like us I think they are still lacking a genuine gamebreaker in the halves and in the backline.

 

[gavin07]

Not too much wrong with that lineup, they look competitive, but like us I think they are still lacking a genuine gamebreaker in the halves and in the backline.

that really depends on if vagana's one hit up is any quality. but yeah youre right, most likely not.

 

[Great White]

I am with you bort and mega, it does but that is about the best and most solid you would get at the moment anyways, Jeremey Smith is one of the worst footballers going around.

 

[scott17]

i think they will have more points in them this week, thats for sure

i think they might pull off an up set

 

[BUZ]

Good morning Sharkies & Sharkettes.
As a South Sydney supporter since 1967 it pains me to see my club going through this period of being the joke of the NRL.
Yesterdays game was nothing more than a pathetic excuse for the players to justify their contract money by turning up, running onto the field in a red & green jersey & collecting payment for services un-rendered.
I firmly believe that we have problems in the front office & i am losing all respect & support i once had for Shane Richardson.
As Shane one held office with the Sharks then what was your individual opinions of the man & how he conducted himself when he was in charge of the Sharks.
I dont entirely blame him but it seems to me that he has been handsomely rewarded for backing PHaC & Rusty in their bid for privatisation at Souths & i dont believe he is pulling his weight & has made some very shonkey decisions.
If i could have some honest opinions i would appreciate it & if the Administers of this site believe that this thread deserves to be removed or deleted for not being 100% Cronulla content then i will graciously accept that as well.

Firstly mate.............For an opposition supporter on these forums you need only look at the responses given to the majority of your posts............to see that the Rabbits woes are no fault of yours!!! :cheers.

I'll leave the footy opinions to the guys who obviously know a lot more about what's happening on the field with the Rabbits these days than myself.........But I would like to address your question (which was business centred).

Sorry mate.........I can't do it just now .

I've got an idea in my head that will take me a little while to put into a post...........but for now, I'll leave you with something to think about:

The Book of Feuds began as a detailed account of Souths' history against their rivals - but a shorter version was created specifically to be read to the players before matches. Crowe has delivered the majority of readings, although co-captain David Kidwell, who has been out injured, coach Jason Taylor and Courtney have also had the honour.

Source

There was some kind of award ceremony a while back (BAFTA maybe??) where Rusty read out a poem as part of his acceptance speech.............the TV producers (people who get hired and fired at the drop of a hat for not being on the ball) of the delayed coverage cut the recital from the broadcast.

If these guys whose job is on the line at almost every decision they make saw to it that Rusty's recital wasn't fit for for their viewers consumption........what does that tell you about Rus and his 'hands on' recitals?................Bearing in mind that there is more money involved in that one TV production than Rusty and PHAC forked out to buy Souths in the first place .

 

[coogeeboy]

Thanks for all your reply's.
I haven't had much time to read all of then in any great detail but i will agree that the club overdoes the " showmanship " & we really need to concentrate on playing footy to get back any respect.
As far as Shane Richardson goes then i still have some doubts as to his loyalty to South Sydney DRLFC as a club rather than the sporting identity that is 75% part owned by Russell Crowe & Peter Holmes a Court because if things keep going the way they are then that is all that we are going to be known as.