NRL Round 7: Cronulla Sutherland Sharks vs. Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Sunday 28 June 4:05pm @ Central Coast Stadium

[Sharkyle]

If we stay healthy & build combos we'll have a crack. Don't think we're prem contenders but we ought to sort out a few pretenders.

We were at this point in 2016 too, lost what 4 of our first 5 then went on a run as our team started to build combinations and we had some luck with injuries. Not saying we are going on a long winning streak based on that performance but I could see us continue to improve - I mean looking at a few of the teams up in contention they are inconsistent other than probably the roosters and Eels. I think we can solidify a spot in the top 8 if we stay injury free and play with some passion like we did yesterday but those are two big IFs

 

[andrew's_sharks]

i mean yeh, he made 150m against the titans at home, but 90 of those were a run away try

moyza is more important to this team than kick return meters

I am not saying that his attacking plays aren't vital, but I think we will need to keep a four forward bench to maintain his lack of return metres (I am ok with this) and we will need some of our other outside backs to pick up the slack in this area.

We will see when we play some actual good teans. Manly didn't show up yesterday

 

[Sir Chadley]

The only bad news about beating Manly yesterday means we won’t beat them again until 2024!

 

[bort]

Katoa is more than taking up the slack. Goodwin not so much but I think we'll see that pick up, too. Hopefully that means less need for Moylan to get involved in the stuff he isn't good at (or bangs him up too much).

I thought Goodwin was making decent runs to start our sets

Goodwin ran 151m last week and 103m yesterday
Katoa ran 144m last week and 105m yesterday

In terms of kick return meters Goodwin has 37m and 12m, Katoa has 0m and 8m

Moyza's kick return meters are 41m and 15m

I didn't really think Moylan missed too many opportunities either, their kick chase was quite solid.

 

[Sparkles]

I thought Goodwin was making decent runs to start our sets

Goodwin ran 151m last week and 103m yesterday
Katoa ran 144m last week and 105m yesterday

In terms of kick return meters Goodwin has 37m and 12m, Katoa has 0m and 8m

Moyza's kick return meters are 41m and 15m

I didn't really think Moylan missed too many opportunities either, their kick chase was quite solid.

Goodwin is definitely getting involved, but looked a step slower (play the balls stood out) and less dynamic than Katoa, that's for sure. But, a lot of people do, so I'm definitely not holding that against Goodie. He had a great finish on his try, too. Was cool seeing him use his size and a deft jink to make enough space, while on the other side Katoa is bursting out of the blocks and flying through the air over guys to score! It's great what they are both bringing to the side at the moment.

 

[Milkshark]

It was a good win. Enjoyed watching the game.

With the talent that we have in the squad, we should be seeing those performances on the regular.

 

[snowman]

Goodwin is definitely getting involved, but looked a step slower (play the balls stood out) and less dynamic than Katoa, that's for sure. But, a lot of people do, so I'm definitely not holding that against Goodie. He had a great finish on his try, too. Was cool seeing him use his size and a deft jink to make enough space, while on the other side Katoa is bursting out of the blocks and flying through the air over guys to score! It's great what they are both bringing to the side at the moment.

goodwin looks a step slower because he is a step slower

he has covell like pace

 

[Sparkles]

goodwin looks a step slower because he is a step slower

he has covell like pace

In his dreams.
His play the balls shouldn't be that much slower though. Would be interested in the stat on that if you've seen it anywhere.

 

[bort]

In his dreams.
His play the balls shouldn't be that much slower though. Would be interested in the stat on that if you've seen it anywhere.

Play the ball speed is a stat that the NRL show in the match centre stats
https://www.nrl.com/draw/nrl-premiership/2020/round-7/sea-eagles-v-sharks/
https://www.nrl.com/draw/nrl-premiership/2020/round-6/sharks-v-bulldogs/

Doesn't do your argument any favours though

 

[bort]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/7bfd65a49592aba9c9c190e1a09e1834

Bit of debate around the Brailey try after Graham was taken out and dominoed into Sironen.

I can see why Manly fan would be upset about it for sure.

But the fullback definitely acts to instigate contact with Graham.

Trying not to be too biased but Graham is not required to just eat **** face first into someones boots and the ground, his arm movements in slow motion to me don't look so unreasonable, much more a reaction to heading towards boots and turf than an attempted tackle of any kind.

If fullback did nothing wrong and that was fair incidental contact then so was Graham on Sironen. If fullback should have been penalised for illegal contact on Graham then it is his act that disadvantaged Sironen. Obviously if Graham wraps the legs it's a bit of a different story.

The disadvantage to Sironen came as a result of the actions of his own fullback (whether legal or not) and I don't think Graham did enough to be able to say he attempted a tackle or even intentionally made contact with Sironen.

Anyone here think Graham did anything wrong? Or should have been expected in that circumstance to somehow make less contact with Sironen?

 

[Wiz]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/7bfd65a49592aba9c9c190e1a09e1834

Bit of debate around the Brailey try after Graham was taken out and dominoed into Sironen.

I can see why Manly fan would be upset about it for sure.

But the fullback definitely acts to instigate contact with Graham.

Trying not to be too biased but Graham is not required to just eat **** face first into someones boots and the ground, his arm movements in slow motion to me don't look so unreasonable, much more a reaction to heading towards boots and turf than an attempted tackle of any kind.

If fullback did nothing wrong and that was fair incidental contact then so was Graham on Sironen. If fullback should have been penalised for illegal contact on Graham then it is his act that disadvantaged Sironen. Obviously if Graham wraps the legs it's a bit of a different story.

The disadvantage to Sironen came as a result of the actions of his own fullback (whether legal or not) and I don't think Graham did enough to be able to say he attempted a tackle or even intentionally made contact with Sironen.

Anyone here think Graham did anything wrong? Or should have been expected in that circumstance to somehow make less contact with Sironen?

Graham definitely knew what he was doing lol BUT manly players fault for even getting Graham into that position.

Good karma

 

[Nulla Boy]

Siro tripped over his own laces.

 

[Sir Chadley]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/7bfd65a49592aba9c9c190e1a09e1834

Bit of debate around the Brailey try after Graham was taken out and dominoed into Sironen.

I can see why Manly fan would be upset about it for sure.

But the fullback definitely acts to instigate contact with Graham.

Trying not to be too biased but Graham is not required to just eat **** face first into someones boots and the ground, his arm movements in slow motion to me don't look so unreasonable, much more a reaction to heading towards boots and turf than an attempted tackle of any kind.

If fullback did nothing wrong and that was fair incidental contact then so was Graham on Sironen. If fullback should have been penalised for illegal contact on Graham then it is his act that disadvantaged Sironen. Obviously if Graham wraps the legs it's a bit of a different story.

The disadvantage to Sironen came as a result of the actions of his own fullback (whether legal or not) and I don't think Graham did enough to be able to say he attempted a tackle or even intentionally made contact with Sironen.

Anyone here think Graham did anything wrong? Or should have been expected in that circumstance to somehow make less contact with Sironen?

The fullback was Elliott.

 

[Sparkles]

Play the ball speed is a stat that the NRL show in the match centre stats
https://www.nrl.com/draw/nrl-premiership/2020/round-7/sea-eagles-v-sharks/
https://www.nrl.com/draw/nrl-premiership/2020/round-6/sharks-v-bulldogs/

Doesn't do your argument any favours though

Thanks Bort. Not.

 

[bort]

Graham definitely knew what he was doing lol BUT manly players fault for even getting Graham into that position.

Good karma

Quite possibly, but it was pretty unavoidable and he didn't make an actions I thought were particularly an obvious act to inhibit him

The fullback was Elliott.

Actually you're correct that it was Elliot in the 1 jersey that hit into Graham, so that is who I was talking about, but I think it was Garrick actually playing fb

Thanks Bort. Not.

haha sorry!

 

[snowman]

And the worst part is, Ennis called him Adam Elliott - the Bulldogs lock

Commentators/Pundits these days are ****ing dreadful

 

[Flanno]

And the worst part is, Ennis called him Adam Elliott - the Bulldogs lock

Commentators/Pundits these days are ****ing dreadful

I was listening to 9. The main commentator called Katoa as Ramien, said Goodwin was playing his first game back for the club and in general allowed massive time periods of silence. Laughable

 

[snowman]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/7bfd65a49592aba9c9c190e1a09e1834

Bit of debate around the Brailey try after Graham was taken out and dominoed into Sironen.

I can see why Manly fan would be upset about it for sure.

But the fullback definitely acts to instigate contact with Graham.

Trying not to be too biased but Graham is not required to just eat **** face first into someones boots and the ground, his arm movements in slow motion to me don't look so unreasonable, much more a reaction to heading towards boots and turf than an attempted tackle of any kind.

If fullback did nothing wrong and that was fair incidental contact then so was Graham on Sironen. If fullback should have been penalised for illegal contact on Graham then it is his act that disadvantaged Sironen. Obviously if Graham wraps the legs it's a bit of a different story.

The disadvantage to Sironen came as a result of the actions of his own fullback (whether legal or not) and I don't think Graham did enough to be able to say he attempted a tackle or even intentionally made contact with Sironen.

Anyone here think Graham did anything wrong? Or should have been expected in that circumstance to somehow make less contact with Sironen?

back on this, its elliotts fault, he comes off his line and nails graham, who goes into sironen

suck ****, wade stays upright and sirro grounds that if elliott isnt a twat

 

[snowman]

Play the ball speed is a stat that the NRL show in the match centre stats
https://www.nrl.com/draw/nrl-premiership/2020/round-7/sea-eagles-v-sharks/
https://www.nrl.com/draw/nrl-premiership/2020/round-6/sharks-v-bulldogs/

Doesn't do your argument any favours though

its not like sparkles to completely be wrong though

 

[Western Sharkie]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/7bfd65a49592aba9c9c190e1a09e1834

Bit of debate around the Brailey try after Graham was taken out and dominoed into Sironen.

I can see why Manly fan would be upset about it for sure.

But the fullback definitely acts to instigate contact with Graham.

Trying not to be too biased but Graham is not required to just eat **** face first into someones boots and the ground, his arm movements in slow motion to me don't look so unreasonable, much more a reaction to heading towards boots and turf than an attempted tackle of any kind.

If fullback did nothing wrong and that was fair incidental contact then so was Graham on Sironen. If fullback should have been penalised for illegal contact on Graham then it is his act that disadvantaged Sironen. Obviously if Graham wraps the legs it's a bit of a different story.

The disadvantage to Sironen came as a result of the actions of his own fullback (whether legal or not) and I don't think Graham did enough to be able to say he attempted a tackle or even intentionally made contact with Sironen.

Anyone here think Graham did anything wrong? Or should have been expected in that circumstance to somehow make less contact with Sironen?

Cause and effect.
If Graham doesn't get fouled earlier in the play, Manly get out of trouble.
Foul play causes chain of events which effectively penalised Manly by conceding points.
Fair punishment? That's a ""to each their own" point of view and decision to make.
For me, it's a penalty and "advantage rule" applied until ball is dead.
If Brailey didn't get there and puts his hands on the ball, then, penalty to Sharks.