Sharkalytics Middle Forward Involvement Rounds 1-4, 2024

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BurgoShark

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Comparing middle forward involvement across the first four rounds.

The important things to note here are that:
  • less attacking involvement from the middle forwards doesn't necessarily mean that they were lazy/outplayed. It could just mean that the backs did more yardage work that game, or that they attacked the edges more.
  • less defensive involvement from the middle forwards doesn't necessarily mean that they were lazy/outplayed. It could just mean that the opposition attacked the edges more.

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  • Round 1 involvement is the outlier. A lot more forward runs inside their own 40. About double what they did in rounds 2-4.
  • Round 3 loss they had a lack of possession inside the attacking end and very few kick returns. Otherwise forward involvement was the same as rounds 2 and 4.
  • Canberra game I would say is the only game the Sharks forwards lost the ruck battle. Makes sense given that two of the best guys at winning the ruck were missing and Jack Williams also had a below average game (at ruck wins overall, even though he had a couple of very quick ptb's leading to tries)

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Are the ruck wins when we have the ball or defending?
 

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Comparing middle forward involvement across the first four rounds.

The important things to note here are that:
  • less attacking involvement from the middle forwards doesn't necessarily mean that they were lazy/outplayed. It could just mean that the backs did more yardage work that game, or that they attacked the edges more.
  • less defensive involvement from the middle forwards doesn't necessarily mean that they were lazy/outplayed. It could just mean that the opposition attacked the edges more.

Summary for the Graph Challenged
  • Round 1 involvement is the outlier. A lot more forward runs inside their own 40. About double what they did in rounds 2-4.
  • Round 3 loss they had a lack of possession inside the attacking end and very few kick returns. Otherwise forward involvement was the same as rounds 2 and 4.
  • Canberra game I would say is the only game the Sharks forwards lost the ruck battle. Makes sense given that two of the best guys at winning the ruck were missing and Jack Williams also had a below average game (at ruck wins overall, even though he had a couple of very quick ptb's leading to tries)

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Are the ruck wins when we have the ball or defending?
With the ball mate.

Have discussed in other threads…

A win is when a player finds his front while facing goal/goal OR is able to stand in a tackle.

Things like diving on a loose ball or being sold a Thurston-to-Cooper style dump don’t get counted. Error in the ruck counts as lost.
 
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With the ball mate.

Have discussed in other threads…

A win is when a player finds his front while facing goal/goal OR is able to stand in a tackle.

Things like diving on a loose ball or being sold a Thurston-to-Cooper style dump don’t get counted. Error in the ruck counts as lost.
Okay cheers mate, id love to know who wins the ruck the most in defence but that would be hard with 2-3 players in most tackles
 

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Okay cheers mate, id love to know who wins the ruck the most in defence but that would be hard with 2-3 players in most tackles
Yeah - have thought of that but it is difficult to measure. You also don’t want misrepresent things. E.g. one player misses a tackle so a different guy has to make a desperate legs tackle and then give up a quick ptb.
 
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