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bort said:
I agree re Trindall and starting in Cup instead of playing NRL bench. At a certain point it did seem like his selection on bench was as much about who else was available as desire to have him there - he was ahead of Colquhoun and Hazelton but wouldn't be selected over most other forwards.
But then we went through a bunch of injuries.

If you want a 'proper' half for 2024 who is expensive we need to buy them this offseason when they go on market this Nov 1.
If you just want an old school halfback style player then we can keep an eye out for which reserve grader/fringe guy is the best at that.
There isn't really a fit where we both give Moylan and Hynes another year and if needed get an expensive half in (other than of course, circumstances arising like when we signed SJ).

Given Hynes is going to go close to a Dally M and we finished 2nd with a Hynes Moylan combo then getting a cheaper dude in just because he has traditional halfback qualities doesn't seem super worthwhile to me. A big change to hope that some pleb who kicks 10 times a game more than Moylan is the key to success.

I think a few in here also have decided it is irrelevant to them that Hynes wants to play halfback. That is fine for you to decide but doesn't make it true. From what I have seen most of the evidence suggests he feels very strongly he specifically does want to play halfback and I guess the idea of pissing off our marquee player so he doesn't have to do the role he wants to do seems questionable to me. Maybe Hynes would be just as happy to play 5/8. If anyone can find anything to support that please share, I'm interested and it will affect my thoughts.

BUT 5/8 is a bit of a different story. I think looking at 5/8s to help him could be an idea.
Brown as I have said is just upgraded much more expensive Moylan, doesn't add enough different. Munster likely will be too expensive to convince.
Only other decent one off contract at right time who can be complimentary to Hynes without taking his role off him is Burton.

So... maybe see if you can get Burton at a decent price for 2024 and if not Moylan and Hynes for a third year until you find a better replacement.
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Said during the year, would love to have Burton Hynes pairing for 2024👍🏾 but after ciraldo going to dogs, think Burto will stay there for awhile.

A reason or another option for getting a top 7 is to shift Hynes to fullback. Him moving there doesn't show he's not a good 7 or has failed, but could be best for team and also himself, he could become a top influential fullback who's always busy and involved like Teddy, Turbo or Latrell, which could interest him. Be a solid defender there after two seasons in the halves. Our current fullbacks might not be there yet to help us all the way come 2024.
 
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What’s the new cap? Do we know or have any idea?
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Last I read was RLPA wanted 10.4M + 600k Long serving player/developed player discount. So essentially 11m. With the intention for it to go up 500k each year for the length of the deal. Who knows if they will get it, just the only figures i've seen.
 
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Who would you let go to help with cap space, if we were to make a play for a top half or Prop for 2024. Out of Wilton, Graham, Katoa, Ramien, Talakai and Kennedy

Katoa, Kennedy and Graham for me
 
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The place where some think Brailey is better then Mahoney, Connor Tracey would make a good half or centre and Chad Townsend and Moylan are good halves.

Got to LOVE it
 
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So with "genuine" halves how much better do we go this season? We finished 2nd ffs...

Not bad for 2 hacks @ 7 & 6 that can't control a game

Our halves were not really the issue during the finals. Wern't perfect but they had a **** sandwich to work with thanks to the rest of the team outsourcing their ball handling and defensive skills to Uzbekistan
 
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Gards said:
So with "genuine" halves how much better do we go this season? We finished 2nd ffs...

Not bad for 2 hacks @ 7 & 6 that can't control a game

Our halves were not really the issue during the finals. Wern't perfect but they had a **** sandwich to work with thanks to the rest of the team outsourcing their ball handling and defensive skills to Uzbekistan
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Coming 2nd then bombing straight out in the finals is actually embarrassing ..so embarrassing it rarely ever happens.

Yes our halves game management is terrible, our whole spines game management is terrible tbh. Moylan is the worst five eighth out of all the top 8 teams by FAR it’s not even close, it’s a massive problem.

Look at Ilias at the south’s and what he does for Walker to free Walker up and let him do his thing. Is Ilias better then Trindall ? No.. don’t let that go over some of your heads

You’ll catch up one day mate
 
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Wizard said:
Coming 2nd then bombing straight out in the finals is actually embarrassing ..so embarrassing it rarely ever happens.

Yes our halves game management is terrible, our whole spines game management is terrible tbh. Moylan is the worst five eighth out of all the top 8 teams by FAR it’s not even close, it’s a massive problem.

Look at Ilias at the south’s and what he does for Walker to free Walker up and let him do his thing. Is Ilias better then Trindall ? No.. don’t let that go over some of your heads

You’ll catch up one day mate
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You do realise, that the half you are chasing to free up Nicho and manage the game, is exactly the type of half that you so desperately wanted to leave last year.
 
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Wizard said:
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The place where some think Brailey is better then Mahoney, Connor Tracey would make a good half or centre and Chad Townsend and Moylan are good halves.

Got to LOVE it
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Where a leading forum whipping boy gets player of the year
 
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You do realise, that the half you are chasing to free up Nicho and manage the game, is exactly the type of half that you so desperately wanted to leave last year.
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I didn’t know Hynes was playing last year ? What’s your point

Chad is better as a secondary playmaker..if he is your primary playmaker you are in deep trouble. As we know SJ loves to float in and out of games, Chad was doing a lot

A Chad and Hynes combo would be very good
 
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Wizard said:
I didn’t know Hynes was playing last year ? What’s your point

Chad is better as a secondary playmaker..if he is your primary playmaker you are in deep trouble. As we know SJ loves to float in and out of games, Chad was doing a lot

A Chad and Hynes combo would be very good
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Didn't Fitz try to keep Chad?
 
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mr.sharkiee said:
I remember hearing Fitz was adamant to keep him and was disappointed that he left.
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HaroldBishop said:
I don't remember that
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IIRC,
Chad mentioned something in an interview that he had a convo with Fitz and that Fitz said that there was a place for him.
Chad then also mentioned that it was him that told Fitz that the offer was too good to refuse and that he wanted a new challenge. Fitz then gave him his best wishes.

It went something like that…
 
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