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Funny we complain he doesn't pass. Last night he passed but should've gone himself.
This all comes down to awareness and its clear he has none. That stupid flick pass over the sideline ****ed some momentum at the time. Ramien, and many others in the team need to be more aware of whats going on. If a flick pass to Katoa is only going to see Katoa get tackled or potentially tackled over the sideline, then take the tackle. If hes wide open and you have a wall of defenders, pass the ****in ball but look where youre passing first
 

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The pass over the touchline on first tackle...

He clearly got absolutely bathed by Fitz for it because he didn't even think of passing again in the 2nd half.

Think it's time for a hard conversation with Jesse, pull your **** together or spend some time at the jets.

Whoever told him to drop the weight needs an uppercut as well.
 
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Was bloody good last year, shadow of himself this year.

Still want to know the story behind his weight loss and the rationale behind it.

Seems like a ridiculous decision.
Yeah same. I think when he had the bulk on he hit the line harder
I’d be interested to see his “tackle bust” stats from last year compared to this year (up to rnd 14 and allowing for these annoying extra bye rounds).
 

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I’d be interested to see his “tackle bust” stats from last year compared to this year (up to rnd 14 and allowing for these annoying extra bye rounds).
2022
Full season - 74 @ 3.5 per game
1st 14 rounds - 33 @ 3.3 per game

2023
1st 14 rounds - 34 @ 2.8 per game

But it does all come down to how tackle busts are recorded... apparently got 5 on Saturday, mostly from crabbing across the field.

(Using FoxSports stats)
 

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2022
Full season - 74 @ 3.5 per game
1st 14 rounds - 33 @ 3.3 per game

2023
1st 14 rounds - 34 @ 2.8 per game

But it does all come down to how tackle busts are recorded... apparently got 5 on Saturday, mostly from crabbing across the field.

(Using FoxSports stats)
Yep, I think it's a pretty useless stat a lot of the time.
 

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2022
Full season - 74 @ 3.5 per game
1st 14 rounds - 33 @ 3.3 per game

2023
1st 14 rounds - 34 @ 2.8 per game

But it does all come down to how tackle busts are recorded... apparently got 5 on Saturday, mostly from crabbing across the field.

(Using FoxSports stats)
The crabbing is due to not being able to run over people anymore

Cause and effect
 
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2022
Full season - 74 @ 3.5 per game
1st 14 rounds - 33 @ 3.3 per game

2023
1st 14 rounds - 34 @ 2.8 per game

But it does all come down to how tackle busts are recorded... apparently got 5 on Saturday, mostly from crabbing across the field.

(Using FoxSports stats)
Thanks @MrDravid

When comparing same players stats over 2 seasons, I’d suggest its still a true and fair comparison (even with the crabbing as he was likely crabbing last season too).

So based on that theory, Ramien is down 0.5 tackle busts per game which isn’t insignificant
 

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I like our centres I feel we have the perfect mix
Sifa is big and fast with nice hands and is just adjusting to playing centre in defence
With his biggest problem is moyza leaving him isolated in D all the time but get good ball off Nicko and Willy due to the preference passing by most players

Ramien is everything you would hate to play against as a centre
Big fast strong tough and aggressive his D is great with early ball is a nightmare for teams

I think staggs gave sifa lots of issues with space around him but sifa gave him just as many as well

And Ramien was all over Herbie who stat wise is one of the most dominating centres in the competition

I feel like sometimes we get lost in what we don’t sometimes
I know one thing for sure I love that they in our team
 

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Someone please compare Ramien's defensive stats 2022 vs. 2023 season thus far

My theory about the slimming down was to improve his agility and lateral defense. I think he's looked a better defender for it but his defense was getting better last season anyway.

Would be good to see supporting stats

Another potential part of it was that we already had a bulldozer type chunky centre on the other side of the field so view was to turn Ramien into a more pacey option on the right side. BUT he hasn't gained much pace and he has lost one of his best attributes which was being hard to handle in the tackle.

There are still signs of him bumping off other players but he is relying on a fend alot more and it isn't consistent as with his previous body shape.
 
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