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England v Australia: Teams
At the DW Stadium, Saturday October 31, kick-off 2.30pm

30th October 2009

England could clinch a place in the Four Nations final with victory on Saturday, a result that would leave Australia's hopes hanging by a thread.

Tony Smith's side opened their campaign with a comfortable win over France, though the laboured performance has led to changes to the 17-man squad.

Sam Tomkins has been called in and the presence of the local boy in the starting line-up should help boost the attendance at the DW Stadium.

The 20-year-old takes over at scrum-half from Richie Myler, who suffered concussion against the French but would still have been left out regardless of the injury.

Chance

Having started his England career with a hat-trick against Wales, Tomkins gets the chance to impress on his home turf as Smith weighs up who should start against the Kiwis the following week.

"I was really disappointed not to play against France, but it wasn't with the team selection," Tomkins said. "I needed to do a bit more to get into the team.

"I think once you are in the squad of 24 everybody has got the opportunity to play, and you have to prove it in training. That was the main thing for me.

"I never thought my chance had gone. You just have to try hard to get back in.

"Playing against the Aussies is going to be a massive deal, and to be playing in Wigan makes it even more special."

Tomkins, who will partner Leeds' Danny McGuire in the half-back roles, will be up against the pairing of Jonathan Thurston and Darren Lockyer, who will equal Clive Churchill's record when he leads Australia for the 27th time.

"You pick bits off other players, and there is definitely stuff I'd like to learn off Lockyer," Super League's young player of the year added. "I hope he'll swap shirts with me at the end - I wouldn't mind that!"

The other fresh face for England is prop Eorl Crabtree, who has recovered from minor knee surgery and will begin the game on the bench.

Having been a replacement against France, James Graham now starts at prop, meaning skipper Jamie Peacock drops back to the second row. Sam Burgess, who is heading to the NRL next year, is amongst the replacements.

Shuffled pack

Australia coach Tim Sheens has decided to shuffle things around having seen his side rescue a draw in the closing minutes against New Zealand.

The 'Roos needed a late Cameron Smith try to rescue a 20-20 result in a terrific trans-Tasman battle played out at the Twickenham Stoop last Saturday.

Forwards Ryan Hoffman and Sam Thaiday have been dropped and while Kurt Gidley and Trent Waterhouse have been included on the list of possible replacements, both players are expected to be left out of the final 17.

Nathan Hindmarsh, who starred in the Parramatta Eels' unlikely run to the NRL Grand Final, comes into the team and hooker Robbie Farah, prop David Shillington and back-rower Luke Lewis could all make their Test debuts.

"England have got a couple of young fellas as well. The game is all about introducing young fellas," said Sheens.

"I told the guys they had to keep playing well or there would be changes. We want to play a different style against England so there are a number of changes for that reason as well."

Australia, who have won on their last three visits to Wigan, know a defeat would leave them relying on England's help to reach the final at Elland Road.

England: S Briscoe (Hull KR); T Briscoe (Hull), Smith (Leeds), Shenton (Castleford), Hall (Leeds); McGuire (Leeds), Tomkins (Wigan); Morley (Warrington), Roby (St Helens), Graham (St Helens), Ellis (Wests Tigers), Peacock (Leeds, capt), Sinfield (Leeds).
Subs: Burgess (Bradford), Crabtree (Huddersfield), Eastmond (St Helens), Westwood (Warrington).

Australia: Slater (Melbourne); B Morris (St George Illawarra), Inglis (Melbourne), Hodges (Brisbane), Hayne (Parramatta); Lockyer (Brisbane, capt), Thurston (North Queensland); Hannant (Canterbury), Smith (Melbourne), Civoniceva (Penrith), Watmough (Manly), Gallen (Cronulla), Hindmarsh (Parramatta).
Subs (from): Farah (Wests Tigers), White (Melbourne), Lewis (Penrith), Shillington (Canberra), Waterhouse (Penrith), Gidley (Newcastle).
 

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SLATER: WE'LL BOUNCE BACK
By Ian Laybourn

Australia full-back Billy Slater says the Kangaroos are determined to bounce back at England's expense after failing to impress in their Gillette Four Nations opener.

The tournament favourites needed a last-minute converted try to earn themselves a face-saving 20-20 draw with New Zealand a week ago and know defeat at Wigan on Saturday would virtually end their interest at the halfway stage.

"I don't think there are too many Australian players that will have been happy with their game last weekend but it's a chance to turn it around," said Slater. "It's a must-win game for us.

"We've always got pressure on us - we put pressure on ourselves to play up to our standards. We need to get things right with the football and get our defence right without it.

"We certainly didn't gel as well as we have in the past and that's something we've worked on this week.

"We didn't get that free-flowing game that we wanted but there are no excuses. We have experienced enough players and we get another crack on Saturday."

Slater scored a hat-trick of tries on his last appearance against England - a record 52-4 rout in Melbourne in the World Cup exactly 12 months ago - but he expects Saturday's re-match to be a much more competitive affair.

"That was a year ago," he said. "If anything, it's going to motivate them a bit.

"To be honest I don't know a lot about the whole side. We don't watch too much Super League over in Australia in the same way you probably don't get too much of the NRL over here.

"We don't know too much about the young fellas but I'm sure they're going to bring enthusiasm to the side.

"But the Poms aren't really a focus at the moment. It's more about us getting our game right.

"It's going to be another tough game. England are going to improve from their first-hit out as well and playing in Wigan is certainly going to be an advantage for the England team."

Australia coach Tim Sheens, who succeeded Ricky Stuart in the fall-out from the Kangaroos' shock World Cup final defeat by the Kiwis, is warning his side to expect another ferocious onslaught as England look to improve on their low-key 34-12 win over the French.

"I don't think they really went out against France in the right frame of mind," he said. "They thought they only had to go through the motions and they got a bit of a shock.

"When they put the pedal down in the second half they were much better so I'd expect they will lift themselves to play us and it will be as intense as the Kiwi game. That's what I'm expecting."

Sheens has rung the changes following the Kiwis game and admits his side will be under pressure to perform.

"There's an element of pressure; it's how we handle it that is the secret," he said. "We need to play with intensity, not anxiety."

One of the recipients of the forward shake-up is veteran second-rower Nathan Hindmarsh, who will win his 21st cap on his return from a two-year absence from the international scene.

The Parramatta player was forced to pull out of his club's visit to Africa to help the orphans of Rwanda and also postponed his own stag night when he received his unexpected call-up for the tour.

"It's not a problem as long as I come back with the trophy," he said.

"I thought my time was up. I wasn't expecting a phone call but Parramatta making the grand final helped my chances a lot."

Teams:

England: S Briscoe (Hull KR); T Briscoe (Hull), Smith (Leeds), Shenton (Castleford), Hall (Leeds); McGuire (Leeds), Tomkins (Wigan); Morley (Warrington), Roby (St Helens), Graham (St Helens), Ellis (Wests Tigers), Peacock (Leeds, capt), Sinfield (Leeds).

Subs: Burgess (Bradford), Crabtree (Huddersfield), Eastmond (St Helens), Westwood (Warrington).

Australia: Slater (Melbourne); B Morris (St George Illawarra), Inglis (Melbourne), Hodges (Brisbane), Hayne (Parramatta); Lockyer (Brisbane, capt), Thurston (North Queensland); Hannant (Canterbury), Smith (Melbourne), Civoniceva (Penrith), Watmough (Manly), Gallen (Cronulla), Hindmarsh (Parramatta).

Subs (from): Farah (Wests Tigers), White (Melbourne), Lewis (Penrith), Shillington (Canberra), Waterhouse (Penrith), Gidley (Newcastle).

Referee: Steve Ganson (England).
 

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Can't wait for this tonight (tomorrow morning). This one will be a little easier as its on at 1.15AM (CH9 - live) instead of 5AM like last week.

We got the Poms covered for class but those f-ckers know it and I'll guarantee a brutal and at times dirty match - thats why Gallen has got a starting spot!
 

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Im not staying up late for this one.... fox sports for those with fox are showing a replay at 730am, i can get up and turn it straight on without having to know the score or having to stay up til 330am.
 

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Much easier to stay up till 3.30 Sunday morning than getting up at 7.30 Sunday morning I reckon.
 

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Aussies greatest country ever 32-pomy bastards 16
FTS Hayne
MOM Thurston
 

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I reckon Gals will be FTS! Shove it up there arse gals, shame on them for ever benching you!
 

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So did anyone watch this game or what? I'm waiting for some sort of match report or, more specifically, a GAL report! How did he go? Hope he tore into the Pom's and showed some of those detractors who have criticised his representative performance.
 

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So did anyone watch this game or what? I'm waiting for some sort of match report or, more specifically, a GAL report! How did he go? Hope he tore into the Pom's and showed some of those detractors who have criticised his representative performance.

i missed it to how did gal go

Gallen was probably Australia's best. Smith would of been but Sheens yanked him and put Farah in, which led to the Pom's first try, their second coming when Gallen got pulled for 10 mins.

Gallen was parked next to Locky and obviously given the job of making life easy for the skipper in defense, which he did better than anyone I've seen do since Toni Carroll. Adrian Morley was picking Lockyer out with every run but never got near him thanks to Galls, nor did any other Pom who targeted Lockyer. The only try scored down Lockyer's side of the field came when Gallen was off.

Inglis got man of the match thanks to some trademark bursts down the edge but Gallen had to be a close second.
 

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I taped it and Gallen had a blinder. Constantly there in defence. The poms must have hated him, he just turned up everywhere and gave it to them. I loved that one on one body slam tackle!
 
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AUSTRALIA DEFEAT ENGLAND IN FOUR NATIONS

Australia have held off a spirited England come back, defeating the Poms 26-12 in Wigan.

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AUSTRALIA DEFEAT ENGLAND IN FOUR NATIONS
Andrew Webster - Daily Telegraph
1 November 2009

PRIDE restored - for now.

The Kangaroos have reignited their Four Nations campaign with a solid 26-16 victory over England in Wigan today. However Australia finished with just 12 men after Johnathan Thurston was sent to the sin bin for holding down the tackled player with seven minutes left on the clock and the visitors leading 26-12.

After leading 26-0 at halftime, before a vocal crowd of 23,122 fans, the Kangaroos gave their fans a late scare when they leaked three second-half tries.

The win means Australia needs to beat lowly ranked France in Paris next Saturday to ensure their place in the final at Elland Road in Leeds on November 14.

It was a far more polished display from Tim Sheens' side in the wake of their indifferent 20-all draw with New Zealand in London last weekend.

Again, centre Greg Inglis was at his barnstorming best, whether he was scoring tries or streaking down field to set them up.

Sheens will not be pleased with the second half effort, though, in which his side leaked tries to Souths-bound prop Sam Burgess second-rower, Wests Tigers backrower Gareth Ellis and centre Lee Smith.

Indeed, when Smith scored in the corner with six minutes remaining the match was very much alive but lock Kevin Sinfield missed the sideline conversion.

What Sheens will be pleased about is the first half, in which his side appeared to score at will - and all they had to do was spin it to the left.

After just four minutes, 60m out from the tryline, captain Darren Lockyer threw a long ball that hit the chest of centre Greg Inglis, who smoked down field before turning the ball back inside for Lockyer to score the try he had initiated.

Shortly afterwards, pressing the England line, Australia went left and fullback Billy Slater planted the ball in the corner.

Indeed, it was a classic Queensland backline movement: Lockyer double-pumping for halfback Johnathan Thurston with Slater wrapping around to race around the defence. NSW couldn't stop it. England had no hope.

Two minutes later and Slater was in again. A storming run from backrower Anthony Watmough, who worked tirelessly in the first half, set it up with the Manly forward discarding England defenders to have Inglis steaming down field again.

That try pushed Australia out to 16-0 lead and there and then the writing was on the wall.

Unlike their rusty performance against the Kiwis a week earlier, the Australians were silky smooth with their hands. In fact, they didn't make an error until the 20th minute when Watmough put down a difficult inside ball from Lockyer. Not that it mattered.

In the 21st minute, Inglis was running no less than 80m to score and deliver his side 22-0 lead. This time, it was off a mistake from Sam Burgess, who couldn't hold onto a pass from England five-eighth Danny McGuire.

Thurston showed remarkable skill to scoop up the ball and pass in the one motion to set-up Inglis. There is no better sight in the game than the Storm centre in full flight, chest out Gasnier-style. When he is doing it before 25,000 Englishmen, silencing the beating drums in the southern stand, it is even better.

Then, in the 27th minute, a funny thing happened.

English referee Steve Ganson, who Kangaroos coach Tim Sheens has had queries over all week, gave Australia a penalty when England centre Lee Smith was penalised for rubbing a forearm into Slater's face.

Australia took full advantage when winger Brett Morris crossed from the next set of six.
If there was anything for England supporters to cheer about in the first half, it was a massive tackle from Burgess on Kangaroos replacement forward Brett White. The collision left White partially dazed and gave Souths fans a glimpse of what to expect from the highly rated 20-year-old.

But that was it for the Poms. At halftime, some of their fans were seen leaving the field. Some were in the bowels of the stadium checking out the Premier League scores.

The Australian fans who had made the long journey to Wigan stayed in their seats, content in the knowledge that pride - for now - had been restored.

Fulltime ?AUSTRALIA 26 (B Slater 2 G Inglis D Lockyer B Morris tries J Thurston 3 goals) defeated ENGLAND 16 (S Burgess G Ellis L Smith tries K Sinfield L Smith goals) at DW Stadium. Referee: Steve Ganson.
 

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Well, for those of you who, like me, missed the game on Sunday morning, here's a match report from the Daily TeleCrap. Of interest is the one liner on Gallen that said he was one of Australia's best. Of course, we all knew he would be.

Was there ever any doubt Gals?:gal:


Inglis is Australia's runaway star
By Andrew Webster in Leeds From: The Daily Telegraph November 02, 2009

WRITING these stories is starting to become monotonous. Another big game, another big performance from Greg Inglis.

What prevents it from becoming mundane is the manner in which the strapping centre plies his trade on the left edge, charging ahead like a roadtrain. Surely there cannot be any greater sight in this game than his runway try in the first half of the Kangaroos' 26-16 win over England at DW Stadium in Wigan early yesterday morning - a result that ignited his side's Four Nations campaign.

In the 21st minute, with Australia already leading 16-0, halfback Johnathan Thurston pounced on a loose ball and passed in the one motion after Souths-bound England prop Sam Burgess had fumbled away possession. That's enough of a sniff for Inglis. He scorched 80m downfield, chest out, and buried the try.

"I just fazed out a bit there,'' Ingis said when asked to recall the moment. "You get in the zone, you have to work out whether you want to pass on the inside or the outside.''

Or just score. Asked if he had deliberately slowed down before putting the ball down to add to the sense of theatre, he smiled: "I was puffing. I needed a break.''

Meanwhile, Thurston was still standing back near halfway. "As soon as I gave him the ball I was just walking with my hands up like this,'' Thurston said, holding both hands in the air. "He still had 50 to go. It's just a pleasure to play with the man. He's a freak.

"Maybe last week (against the Kiwis) we got into just trying to give him the ball for him to do something. This week we punched forward a bit more and exposed them on the edges. That was the game plan. It was good to see it work.''

Inglis was instrumental in ensuring Australia shot to a 26-0 halftime lead, although the good work almost came underdone in the second half as reinvigorated England ran in three tries.

"We can't rely on just going to Greg all the time, but he's in the Mal Meninga mould and all of the great centres that Australia has produced,'' coach Tim Sheens said. "He's certainly up there with those. He's got a long way to go before he achieves those heights, but he's certainly well on his way.''

While Inglis was damaging, so was fullback Billy Slater, who some believe should have been replaced by winger Jarryd Hayne after a quiet match in the 20-20 draw with New Zealand. His reply: two first-half tries with his trademark blinding pace. The Kangaroos appeared to score at will in the first half, but the second developed into a typical Test match.

Tries to Burgess, Gareth Ellis and centre Lee Smith gave Sheens some cause for concern. When Smith scored in the corner with six minutes remaining - and with Thurston in the sin-bin - the match was very much alive. But lock Kevin Sinfield missed the sideline conversion and the game ended there and then.

"I wasn't surprised that England would respond but certainly I was disappointed,'' Sheens said. "We wanted to keep them to no points and they kept us from scoring points (in the second half). That's a worry. We've only played 40 good minutes of football and we've scrambled last week against the Kiwis to get a point and we scrambled to keep them out here. We've still got some work to do.''

Anthony Watmough, who was one of Australia's best alongside Paul Gallen in the second-row, could not remember the match after suffering concussion. Prop Brett White was also ga-ga and Justin Hodges' nose wouldn't stop bleeding.

Inglis sat in the corner of the room. Asked if that was his best performance in the green and gold, he just shrugged. "I don't know,'' he said. "I don't replay my videos. I just go about my business.''
 

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Just posted this on another forum because it's full of the typical Gallen detractors...

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Because I'm such a Paul Gallen fanboy and feel people are all too quiet when he has a great game and jump up and down when he makes one little mistake or concedes the kind of penalty Thurston concedes multiple times a game... Here are some stats :)

These are the stats for all of the forwards (not including hookers) in the last game.

I do not have minutes available to me as my stat source only shows 80min for run on players and 0 min for bench warmers.

# Runs
1 - Paul Gallen (18)
2 - Ben Hannant (10)
3 - David Shillington (10)

Meters Gained
1 - Paul Gallen (117)
2 - Ben Hannant (78)
3 - Brett White (63)

Offloads
1 - Paul Gallen (4)
2 - Anthony Watmough (4)
3 - Petero Civoniceva (2)

Tackle Breaks
1 - Paul Gallen (4)
2 - Anthony Watmough (3)
3 - David Shilington / Luke Lewis (1)

Line Breaks
(No forwards had a line break)

Line Break Assists
1 - Anthony Watmough (1)

Try Assists
(No forwards had a try assist)

Tackles
1 - Paul Gallen (40)
2 - Ben Hannant (37)
3 - Nathan Hindmarsh (37)

Missed Tackles (I believe all players should be listed as it's unfair to view missed tackles in isolation when some players have made much more affective tackles)

1 - Nathan Hindmarsh (1)
2 - Ben Hannant (2)
3 - Petero Civoniceva (2)
4 - Paul Gallen (4)
5 - Brett White (4)
6 - Luke Lewis (5)
7 - Anthony Watmough (6)
8 - David Shillington (9)

Only one penalty conceded (Watmough has 3 conceded)

ZERO errors (Hannant and Shilington also had no errors)

Thus Gallen was by far the best forward across the board. It's not just my biased opinion, the stats don't lie.

And he didn't grub it up once either from memory. Good work.
 
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