Damian Irvine

[endevour shark]

Yep worked for free to dig us out of the **** funny how people forget that, all he did was tell the truth and got hammered for it by a person with an Agenda, no idea why he trusted the idiot Rothfield though massive fail with that.

He kept us afloat , what he did under extreme duress was amazing. I to am glad to see he is at last being recognised for his ability. Some how sometimes at the Sharks it is not until you leave that people respect your talent.

CONGRATULATIONS

 

[Shark]

Shark / samshark groundhog day

I actually agree with Sam on a lot of things. He makes a fair point, and some of his criticisms of the Irvine administration have validity. Where (I think) we differ is that I believe things had to be done a certain way simply due to the lack of resources, whereas Sam is of a view that things should have been done regardless of whether or not the club could afford it.

He's an intelligent and reasonably well-informed observer.

He's also right that if DI ever comes back to Australia he'll be better for the run in the UK. I can't see him ever coming back to Cronulla though. Probably not even an NRL role at all.

The A-League is on the up-and-up though...

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[Born&bred]

Being tarred & feathered after selfless, unpaid amazing work that actually achieved the most important milestone in our history - FMD there are some spoilt brats on here

 

[CrankyShark]

Saved the club. What is there to understand? He has furthered himself again, good on him.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

In hindsight was telling Rothfield we 'took horse drugs' the wrong thing? Not really. It was in the end proven players were in fact given banned drugs, hence the bans. Was it bad for Irvines career? Not really i guess as it seems he has prospered greatly since that day.

Im not anti-unity, and im not all for irvine. I dont know the guy like a lot on here do. i have no personal connection to him. What i do know is that he oversaw the most significant investment this club will ever make. What went on in the dressing sheds was, for lack of better words, not Irvines business. Yes he was the chairman but there was that hierarchy of control at the club which is where the failure occured. Not in the board.

Should he have sat that interview with Buzz? Probably not, but there was some public pressures at the time, the coach and most the support staff were suspended/sacked and people wanted answers.

Irvine and anyone else involved in getting that development are more valuable to this club than any player or coach thats ever been here. If we didnt get that 10 mil cheque a few years back, we'd have been seeing administrators wheeling out the desk chairs on a monday morning

 

[Deleted member 3365]

Deadset Irvine is a much of a legend as Rogers to this club.

Overreaction?
Maybe but Irvine did alot to see this club still participating.

 

[Capital_Shark]

Nothing like a jab at DI to rustle things up

 

[samshark]

I actually agree with Sam on a lot of things. He makes a fair point, and some of his criticisms of the Irvine administration have validity. Where (I think) we differ is that I believe things had to be done a certain way simply due to the lack of resources, whereas Sam is of a view that things should have been done regardless of whether or not the club could afford it.

He's an intelligent and reasonably well-informed observer.

He's also right that if DI ever comes back to Australia he'll be better for the run in the UK. I can't see him ever coming back to Cronulla though. Probably not even an NRL role at all.

The A-League is on the up-and-up though...

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That's actually incorrect. Where you and I have and others have butted heads has been more to do with people's loyalties and criticisms and blatant refusal to give the new board a go before writing them off. I was well aware of both the state of the finances and the clubs inability to afford appoint a CEO and Irvines selfless efforts for the club.

I know he couldn't afford to employ a CEO but something more should have been done. If things were so dire the NRL should have stepped in and appointed a CEO. I was never in favour of that coaching, management set up i.e Flannagan, Mooney, Irvine. Whilst it gave people opportunities and allowed promotion from within it was very weak and inexperienced with people out of their depth. And whilst hindsight is a great thing I guess we've seen the consequences of that.

 

[Mark^Bastard]

Hindsight is a great thing indeed. Unity are hopeless and we got our first spoon in 40 years. They appoint a CEO then come to the same conclusion as DI, ie a group CEO. Still no sponsors. They are a joke

 

[dylan the villian]

Hindsight is a great thing indeed. Unity are hopeless and we got our first spoon in 40 years. They appoint a CEO then come to the same conclusion as DI, ie a group CEO. Still no sponsors. They are a joke

Bingo

 

[HaroldBishop]

Hindsight is a great thing indeed. Unity are hopeless and we got our first spoon in 40 years. They appoint a CEO then come to the same conclusion as DI, ie a group CEO. Still no sponsors. They are a joke

It's the current board's fault why we got the spoon, is it?

 

[snowman]

Hindsight is a great thing indeed. Unity are hopeless and we got our first spoon in 40 years. They appoint a CEO then come to the same conclusion as DI, ie a group CEO. Still no sponsors. They are a joke

So its the boards fault the players got a spoon. ****in lol

 

[Art Vandelay]

No
The boards mistake, imo was appointing a coach that didnt want to be the coach.

They have now got the coach back...so i guess thats good.
they have appointed new staff in terms of strength, conditioning and fitness. thats good.

They have gone with a new plan. which is the same plan damo had, but then the group ceo was gone after about 5 seconds under him.

as for damo.
good on him for his award.

its a shame it all fell in a heap here. but it did.

 

[sharks2010]

It's the current board's fault why we got the spoon, is it?

So its the boards fault the players got a spoon. ****in lol

the fact Dylan agreed with marks post shows how idiotic it was

 

[ABshark]

Hindsight is a great thing indeed. Unity are hopeless and we got our first spoon in 40 years. They appoint a CEO then come to the same conclusion as DI, ie a group CEO. Still no sponsors. They are a joke

It.doesn't have to be "DI is great, Unity suck".

DI, Douglas and co did some wonderful things that I am extremely grateful for. DI also made a bad mistake under immense pressure. The punishment for that mistake was unfair and showed the short-sightedness of the membership.

Unity treated him and others badly. They're too closely linked with Rothfield. And many think that Flanagan should have been punished more heavily. Those are their faults.

But appointing Noyce to look after the players for 18 months seems like a good.move. Letting him go at what appears to be the end of his contract and snsring a proven high performer from outside the RL boys club is an unequivocally good move. They've brought in Leading Teams to shift a culture that - whatever way you look at it - is one of mediocrity and low standards. The people they employed kept membership (and appearently sponsorship) growing despite crap circumstances. They have (again appearently) improved support for the local league. And the football department is starting to look like a professional group rather than a mob of mates. That's all positive and they deserve credit.

All decision makers do good and bad. DI did mostly good. Unity.have done mostly good. That is all good for the Club and that's all that matters.

I just want intelligent, insightful, strong leadership. I could not care less who provides it.

 

[samshark]

Well said AB and all very true. MB doesn't have a clue.
The support for the local JL has been a lot better, not so much in a monetary sense but in various other ways.

 

[slide rule]

Di planted a tree and unity pick the fruit. Great work all round. Yay us.

 

[snowman]

It.doesn't have to be "DI is great, Unity suck".

DI, Douglas and co did some wonderful things that I am extremely grateful for. DI also made a bad mistake under immense pressure. The punishment for that mistake was unfair and showed the short-sightedness of the membership.

Unity treated him and others badly. They're too closely linked with Rothfield. And many think that Flanagan should have been punished more heavily. Those are their faults.

But appointing Noyce to look after the players for 18 months seems like a good.move. Letting him go at what appears to be the end of his contract and snsring a proven high performer from outside the RL boys club is an unequivocally good move. They've brought in Leading Teams to shift a culture that - whatever way you look at it - is one of mediocrity and low standards. The people they employed kept membership (and appearently sponsorship) growing despite crap circumstances. They have (again appearently) improved support for the local league. And the football department is starting to look like a professional group rather than a mob of mates. That's all positive and they deserve credit.

All decision makers do good and bad. DI did mostly good. Unity.have done mostly good. That is all good for the Club and that's all that matters.

I just want intelligent, insightful, strong leadership. I could not care less who provides it.

top post mate

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

No
The boards mistake, imo was appointing a coach that didnt want to be the coach.

They have now got the coach back...so i guess thats good.
they have appointed new staff in terms of strength, conditioning and fitness. thats good.

They have gone with a new plan. which is the same plan damo had, but then the group ceo was gone after about 5 seconds under him.

as for damo.
good on him for his award.

its a shame it all fell in a heap here. but it did.

Peter Sharp did not have to take the job on. He could have declined the offer. Thats the reality. Sharp took it KNOWING he didnt want the job. He himself considered himself a care taker. Gallen was right when he said it was like playing for the substitute teacher. You had no respect for them at school, or too much sometimes. But if your teacher was gone on Long Service all year you had a teacher and that was that. It was immaturity on the players part to not respond professionally, and it was irresponsible of Sharpie to take the job on and put the seasons in further jeopardy.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

It.doesn't have to be "DI is great, Unity suck".

DI, Douglas and co did some wonderful things that I am extremely grateful for. DI also made a bad mistake under immense pressure. The punishment for that mistake was unfair and showed the short-sightedness of the membership.

Unity treated him and others badly. They're too closely linked with Rothfield. And many think that Flanagan should have been punished more heavily. Those are their faults.

But appointing Noyce to look after the players for 18 months seems like a good.move. Letting him go at what appears to be the end of his contract and snsring a proven high performer from outside the RL boys club is an unequivocally good move. They've brought in Leading Teams to shift a culture that - whatever way you look at it - is one of mediocrity and low standards. The people they employed kept membership (and appearently sponsorship) growing despite crap circumstances. They have (again appearently) improved support for the local league. And the football department is starting to look like a professional group rather than a mob of mates. That's all positive and they deserve credit.

All decision makers do good and bad. DI did mostly good. Unity.have done mostly good. That is all good for the Club and that's all that matters.

I just want intelligent, insightful, strong leadership. I could not care less who provides it.

entirely true. Ive never been a full on unity basher, and im not a die hard DI man, as for some on here thats more from a personal level. One thing is for sure. DI and co did so many great things for the club, but the clubs financial position at the time didnt allow for the proper governance that the club is currently aiming for. This was not DI's fault.

Its like Politics, you have the labor lovers, the liberal lovers, those on the fence and those who just wanna bitch about basically anybody that becomes the prime minister. Those who completely slaughtered Gillard then turned the hate to Abbott on day 1.