Official Craig Fitzgibbon

[Blix]

What’s your solution then?
Bring in Trindall to be a marginally better kicker but worse at everything else (except I guess staying healthy) and have him get pressured relentlessly as our only kicker?

Spreading the kicking gives us more time and space for the crap kickers to get a decent kick in

Spreading the love between 5 people is going to lead to bedlam, opposition won’t know what’s coming because neither will Cronulla….no Cronulla doesn’t have a dominate kicker like Cleary, Reynolds or Hughes but when has using a number of makeshift kickers been successful?

Maintaining Trindall at 7 where he was consistently improving might not be ideal, but having a “decent” and improving general play kicker has to be better then using Mythlan as a kicking option.

Moylan in the last 3 years has played 34 games in first grade and kicked 34 times. He has probably kicked long 5-10 times in first grade in the last 3 years (probably nearly all of them crap)

Anyway, I knows it is purely my opinion but I can’t stand the thought of seeing Moylan stuffing up the preparation for another season especially when I think he is exactly what the team doesn’t need and is wrecking the pathway for other younger players with potential in Metcalf (who might have already cracked it with the Moylan situation) and Trindall who whilst not being stella has shown consistent improvement and is what the team needs as a traditional 7.

 

[egg]

SMH article

Why Fitzgibbon was worried he would upset Politis on first day in Sharks colours

In-coming coach Craig Fitzgibbon on not wanting to upset Nick Politis, plus getting the best out of Matt Moylan and managing Wade Graham’s concussions.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Wizard]

I reckon we might be wasting the development of either Metcalf or Trindall with Moylan playing in the halves.

But who knows, Fitz could just be bluffing everyone.

I reckon we don't even need Moylan tbh in the top 17 unless there is an injury.

I agree mate - Were actually blessed with halves, Trindall and Metcalf are genuine good players with very good base skills as halves. Kind of feels like some people on here are taking them and their potential/skill for granted, already Trindall has shown he can take Chads spot with ease and we don't miss CT at all.

With those two in our team Moylan is surplus and could get in the way like he did blocking Trindall this year from getting an earlier start. He's not ageing well getting more injuries, can't run at full speed and doesn't kick - Hynes will need someone to help him carry all of the load as a rookie half not just someone who can ballplay

 

[Wizard]

What’s your solution then?
Bring in Trindall to be a marginally better kicker but worse at everything else (except I guess staying healthy) and have him get pressured relentlessly as our only kicker?

Spreading the kicking gives us more time and space for the crap kickers to get a decent kick in

What is Trindall worse at ?

 

[mr.sharkiee]

What is Trindall worse at ?

Yeah not sure what he's worse at? Trindall and Moylan are pretty separate players, both are a rare example of the difference between a 7 and 6.

 

[Wizard]

What’s your solution then

Bring in Trindall to be a marginally better kicker but worse at everything else (except I guess staying healthy) and have him get pressured relentlessly as our only kicker?

Spreading the kicking gives us more time and space for the crap kickers to get a decent kick in

This post also doesn't make sense because those other crap kickers can still kick because they are miraculously still in the team if Trindall is playing ? (Apart from Moylan)

Also, to add to that those kickers get to pick their moments better due to them not having to pick up the load of not having a main kicker

 

[bort]

What is Trindall worse at ?

In this example he is worse at getting picked in the team, so probably some other stuff in the eyes of the coach too

What’s your solution then

This post also doesn't make sense because those other crap kickers can still kick because they are miraculously still in the team if Trindall is playing ? (Apart from Moylan)

Also, to add to that those kickers get to pick their moments better due to them not having to pick up the load of not having a main kicker

Apart from Moylan, yes
The conversation is about if/how the team can operate with Moylan Hynes halves pairing. If Trindall isn’t making the team should he be brought in just to kick?
Is that the solution?

Yeah not sure what he's worse at? Trindall and Moylan are pretty separate players, both are a rare example of the difference between a 7 and 6.

Maybe that’s why if selected one would probably play in 6 the other in 7. Hynes puts a different shirt on.

Anyway, I knows it is purely my opinion but I can’t stand the thought of seeing Moylan stuffing up the preparation for another season especially when I think he is exactly what the team doesn’t need and is wrecking the pathway for other younger players with potential in Metcalf (who might have already cracked it with the Moylan situation) and Trindall who whilst not being stella has shown consistent improvement and is what the team needs as a traditional 7.

Agree but he already has a contract Fitz isn’t going to not pick him in the side because blix and bort think he will get injured sooner than later.
If he stays fit through preseason I think he makes the starting side, if you don’t okay but I don’t think it’s reasonably to think he wouldn’t get picked by Fitz with fear of possible future disruption as the reason.

In the second half of quoted, and I had this argument last year about trindall, if Metcalf (who has had a bad injury run himself) has cracked it that a former Aus player (who likely will miss games injured, possibly a lot) has a 1 year contact ahead of him after he has played 6 games it’s probably questionable about whether he has a good attitude to succeed. There is a reason NRL teams are a squad of 30 plus dev players and not just a list of 17 blokes who might have the most talent one day.

Cam played 7 games his first season, should he have quit south’s because he wasn’t in their round 1 side the next season? Went on to to play 13 games.

No amount of you/us not liking Moylan will be factored into team selection by the actual coach which I guess is why I don’t understand why people suggest it.
As I have said many times Fitz wants his NRL career to start well (wins) and will pick accordingly with better info than we have.

 

[HaroldBishop]

In this example he is worse at getting picked in the team, so probably some other stuff in the eyes of the coach too

That's not like you, taking the easy way out.

 

[Wizard]

In this example he is worse at getting picked in the team, so probably some other stuff in the eyes of the coach too


Apart from Moylan, yes
The conversation is about if/how the team can operate with Moylan Hynes halves pairing. If Trindall isn’t making the team should he be brought in just to kick?
Is that the solution?

Maybe that’s why if selected one would probably play in 6 the other in 7. Hynes puts a different shirt on.


Agree but he already has a contract Fitz isn’t going to not pick him in the side because blix and bort think he will get injured sooner than later.
If he stays fit through preseason I think he makes the starting side, if you don’t okay but I don’t think it’s reasonably to think he wouldn’t get picked by Fitz with fear of possible future disruption as the reason.

In the second half of quoted, and I had this argument last year about trindall, if Metcalf (who has had a bad injury run himself) has cracked it that a former Aus player (who likely will miss games injured, possibly a lot) has a 1 year contact ahead of him after he has played 6 games it’s probably questionable about whether he has a good attitude to succeed. There is a reason NRL teams are a squad of 30 plus dev players and not just a list of 17 blokes who might have the most talent one day.

Cam played 7 games his first season, should he have quit south’s because he wasn’t in their round 1 side the next season? Went on to to play 13 games.

No amount of you/us not liking Moylan will be factored into team selection by the actual coach which I guess is why I don’t understand why people suggest it.
As I have said many times Fitz wants his NRL career to start well (wins) and will pick accordingly with better info than we have.

Worse at getting picked in the team yet Moylan was the one who got dropped for Metcalf when they were both on and more then 80% of our tries when both Trindall and Moylan on came from Trindall.. and 100% of our kicks. Trindall Worse at "Probably some other stuff in the eyes of the coach " is a legitimate guess on your end - to post it like it's fact without explaining is misleading.

The actual fact is Trindall is currently better then Moylan at kicking, ball playing, running he is also younger and has a lot more upside especially if he doesn't have to run the team like he was anymore.

For Moylan to even be considered a half he needs to kick and run at full pace.. to still want him in the team when he can't even do both is stupidity and sets up Hynes for failure

 

[bort]

That's not like you, taking the easy way out.

The conversation is about Hynes Moylan halves pairing though, and how that may or may not work.
Trindall can be gods gift to rugby league and the next immortal and he still won’t contribute in any way to a Hynes Moylan halves pairing.
If I want a conversation about Wizards preferred halves I’ll join into one

 

[HaroldBishop]

Worse at getting picked in the team yet Moylan was the one who got dropped for Metcalf when they were both on and more then 80% of our tries when both Trindall and Moylan on came from Trindall.. and 100% of our kicks. Trindall Worse at "Probably some other stuff in the eyes of the coach " is a legitimate guess on your end - to post it like it's fact without explaining is misleading.

The actual fact is Trindall is currently better then Moylan at kicking, ball playing, running he is also younger and has a lot more upside especially if he doesn't have to run the team like he was anymore.

For Moylan to even be considered a half he needs to kick and run at full pace.. to still want him in the team when he can't even do both is stupidity and sets up Hynes for failure

Sharky Pete is better at running than Moylan.

 

[Wizard]

The conversation is about Hynes Moylan halves pairing though, and how that may or may not work.
Trindall can be gods gift to rugby league and the next immortal and he still won’t contribute in any way to a Hynes Moylan halves pairing.
If I want a conversation about Wizards preferred halves I’ll join into one

No it's about you saying that Trindall is worse at things then ? that you couldn't back up

 

[Thresher Shark]

Trindall is a bit too flat-footed IMO.

If I was Fitz I'd be sending him for a few ballet lessons to get him up on his toes, or maybe Irish Step Dancing.

 

[snowman]

How long is Fitz contract?

3 years

he'll be sacked after a year if he goes with a hynes moylan combo

 

[Shortfin Mako Shark]

he'll be sacked after a year if he goes with a hynes moylan combo

Let's wait and see what the pre-season will bring... He is going to be in the best positon to see what works and what doesn't. In Fitz We Trust.

 

[CrazyMatt]

Let's wait and see what the pre-season will bring... He is going to be in the best positon to see what works and what doesn't. In Fitz We Trust.

Blind faith gets us nowhere. This is a forum, you are allowed to use your own brain.

Snowman is right, if Fitz thinks a Moylan/Hynes combo is whats best for the team then he is a dud.

 

[Tiger Shark]

Blind faith gets us nowhere. This is a forum, you are allowed to use your own brain.

Snowman is right, if Fitz thinks a Moylan/Hynes combo is whats best for the team then he is a dud.

I always wonder why the people that know more than first grade coaches don't just do it themselves. Feels like a missed opportunity.

 

[CrazyMatt]

I always wonder why the people that know more than first grade coaches don't just do it themselves. Feels like a missed opportunity.

Oh here we go, dont start that rubbish thats the sort of posts you see from the window lickers in the facebook group whenever you disagree with the company line so to speak……

No one said they know more then a first grade coach but even a nuffie like me can see Moylan and Hynes isnt a balanced halves combo.

 

[Tiger Shark]

Oh here we go, dont start that rubbish thats the sort of posts you see from the window lickers in the facebook group whenever you disagree with the company line so to speak……

No one said they know more then a first grade coach but even a nuffie like me can see Moylan and Hynes isnt a balanced halves combo.

Nah you see the window lickers in facebook moving Kennedy to centre and Trindall to the wing because they absolutely know more than a first grade coach.

If Fitz rolls out Moylan and Hynes then he must think that's the best pairing, or there's injuries and that's all we have.

I don't personally see it but stranger things have happened and if nuffie like you can see it then I'm sure Fitz does

 

[snowman]

you can trot out "first grade coaches know more than you" all you want, but coaches get sacked and i am still here talking **** so i am the real winner in all of this