Official Craig Fitzgibbon

[Wiz]

What’s your solution then

Bring in Trindall to be a marginally better kicker but worse at everything else (except I guess staying healthy) and have him get pressured relentlessly as our only kicker?

Spreading the kicking gives us more time and space for the crap kickers to get a decent kick in

This post also doesn't make sense because those other crap kickers can still kick because they are miraculously still in the team if Trindall is playing ? (Apart from Moylan)

Also, to add to that those kickers get to pick their moments better due to them not having to pick up the load of not having a main kicker

 

[bort]

What is Trindall worse at ?

In this example he is worse at getting picked in the team, so probably some other stuff in the eyes of the coach too

What’s your solution then

This post also doesn't make sense because those other crap kickers can still kick because they are miraculously still in the team if Trindall is playing ? (Apart from Moylan)

Also, to add to that those kickers get to pick their moments better due to them not having to pick up the load of not having a main kicker

Apart from Moylan, yes
The conversation is about if/how the team can operate with Moylan Hynes halves pairing. If Trindall isn’t making the team should he be brought in just to kick?
Is that the solution?

Yeah not sure what he's worse at? Trindall and Moylan are pretty separate players, both are a rare example of the difference between a 7 and 6.

Maybe that’s why if selected one would probably play in 6 the other in 7. Hynes puts a different shirt on.

Anyway, I knows it is purely my opinion but I can’t stand the thought of seeing Moylan stuffing up the preparation for another season especially when I think he is exactly what the team doesn’t need and is wrecking the pathway for other younger players with potential in Metcalf (who might have already cracked it with the Moylan situation) and Trindall who whilst not being stella has shown consistent improvement and is what the team needs as a traditional 7.

Agree but he already has a contract Fitz isn’t going to not pick him in the side because blix and bort think he will get injured sooner than later.
If he stays fit through preseason I think he makes the starting side, if you don’t okay but I don’t think it’s reasonably to think he wouldn’t get picked by Fitz with fear of possible future disruption as the reason.

In the second half of quoted, and I had this argument last year about trindall, if Metcalf (who has had a bad injury run himself) has cracked it that a former Aus player (who likely will miss games injured, possibly a lot) has a 1 year contact ahead of him after he has played 6 games it’s probably questionable about whether he has a good attitude to succeed. There is a reason NRL teams are a squad of 30 plus dev players and not just a list of 17 blokes who might have the most talent one day.

Cam played 7 games his first season, should he have quit south’s because he wasn’t in their round 1 side the next season? Went on to to play 13 games.

No amount of you/us not liking Moylan will be factored into team selection by the actual coach which I guess is why I don’t understand why people suggest it.
As I have said many times Fitz wants his NRL career to start well (wins) and will pick accordingly with better info than we have.

 

[HaroldBishop]

In this example he is worse at getting picked in the team, so probably some other stuff in the eyes of the coach too

That's not like you, taking the easy way out.

 

[Wiz]

In this example he is worse at getting picked in the team, so probably some other stuff in the eyes of the coach too


Apart from Moylan, yes
The conversation is about if/how the team can operate with Moylan Hynes halves pairing. If Trindall isn’t making the team should he be brought in just to kick?
Is that the solution?

Maybe that’s why if selected one would probably play in 6 the other in 7. Hynes puts a different shirt on.


Agree but he already has a contract Fitz isn’t going to not pick him in the side because blix and bort think he will get injured sooner than later.
If he stays fit through preseason I think he makes the starting side, if you don’t okay but I don’t think it’s reasonably to think he wouldn’t get picked by Fitz with fear of possible future disruption as the reason.

In the second half of quoted, and I had this argument last year about trindall, if Metcalf (who has had a bad injury run himself) has cracked it that a former Aus player (who likely will miss games injured, possibly a lot) has a 1 year contact ahead of him after he has played 6 games it’s probably questionable about whether he has a good attitude to succeed. There is a reason NRL teams are a squad of 30 plus dev players and not just a list of 17 blokes who might have the most talent one day.

Cam played 7 games his first season, should he have quit south’s because he wasn’t in their round 1 side the next season? Went on to to play 13 games.

No amount of you/us not liking Moylan will be factored into team selection by the actual coach which I guess is why I don’t understand why people suggest it.
As I have said many times Fitz wants his NRL career to start well (wins) and will pick accordingly with better info than we have.

Worse at getting picked in the team yet Moylan was the one who got dropped for Metcalf when they were both on and more then 80% of our tries when both Trindall and Moylan on came from Trindall.. and 100% of our kicks. Trindall Worse at "Probably some other stuff in the eyes of the coach " is a legitimate guess on your end - to post it like it's fact without explaining is misleading.

The actual fact is Trindall is currently better then Moylan at kicking, ball playing, running he is also younger and has a lot more upside especially if he doesn't have to run the team like he was anymore.

For Moylan to even be considered a half he needs to kick and run at full pace.. to still want him in the team when he can't even do both is stupidity and sets up Hynes for failure

 

[bort]

That's not like you, taking the easy way out.

The conversation is about Hynes Moylan halves pairing though, and how that may or may not work.
Trindall can be gods gift to rugby league and the next immortal and he still won’t contribute in any way to a Hynes Moylan halves pairing.
If I want a conversation about Wizards preferred halves I’ll join into one

 

[HaroldBishop]

Worse at getting picked in the team yet Moylan was the one who got dropped for Metcalf when they were both on and more then 80% of our tries when both Trindall and Moylan on came from Trindall.. and 100% of our kicks. Trindall Worse at "Probably some other stuff in the eyes of the coach " is a legitimate guess on your end - to post it like it's fact without explaining is misleading.

The actual fact is Trindall is currently better then Moylan at kicking, ball playing, running he is also younger and has a lot more upside especially if he doesn't have to run the team like he was anymore.

For Moylan to even be considered a half he needs to kick and run at full pace.. to still want him in the team when he can't even do both is stupidity and sets up Hynes for failure

Sharky Pete is better at running than Moylan.

 

[Wiz]

The conversation is about Hynes Moylan halves pairing though, and how that may or may not work.
Trindall can be gods gift to rugby league and the next immortal and he still won’t contribute in any way to a Hynes Moylan halves pairing.
If I want a conversation about Wizards preferred halves I’ll join into one

No it's about you saying that Trindall is worse at things then ? that you couldn't back up

 

[Thresher]

Trindall is a bit too flat-footed IMO.

If I was Fitz I'd be sending him for a few ballet lessons to get him up on his toes, or maybe Irish Step Dancing.

 

[snowman]

How long is Fitz contract?

3 years

he'll be sacked after a year if he goes with a hynes moylan combo

 

[Shortfin Mako]

he'll be sacked after a year if he goes with a hynes moylan combo

Let's wait and see what the pre-season will bring... He is going to be in the best positon to see what works and what doesn't. In Fitz We Trust.

 

[CrazyMatt]

Let's wait and see what the pre-season will bring... He is going to be in the best positon to see what works and what doesn't. In Fitz We Trust.

Blind faith gets us nowhere. This is a forum, you are allowed to use your own brain.

Snowman is right, if Fitz thinks a Moylan/Hynes combo is whats best for the team then he is a dud.

 

[Tiger Shark]

Blind faith gets us nowhere. This is a forum, you are allowed to use your own brain.

Snowman is right, if Fitz thinks a Moylan/Hynes combo is whats best for the team then he is a dud.

I always wonder why the people that know more than first grade coaches don't just do it themselves. Feels like a missed opportunity.

 

[CrazyMatt]

I always wonder why the people that know more than first grade coaches don't just do it themselves. Feels like a missed opportunity.

Oh here we go, dont start that rubbish thats the sort of posts you see from the window lickers in the facebook group whenever you disagree with the company line so to speak……

No one said they know more then a first grade coach but even a nuffie like me can see Moylan and Hynes isnt a balanced halves combo.

 

[Tiger Shark]

Oh here we go, dont start that rubbish thats the sort of posts you see from the window lickers in the facebook group whenever you disagree with the company line so to speak……

No one said they know more then a first grade coach but even a nuffie like me can see Moylan and Hynes isnt a balanced halves combo.

Nah you see the window lickers in facebook moving Kennedy to centre and Trindall to the wing because they absolutely know more than a first grade coach.

If Fitz rolls out Moylan and Hynes then he must think that's the best pairing, or there's injuries and that's all we have.

I don't personally see it but stranger things have happened and if nuffie like you can see it then I'm sure Fitz does

 

[snowman]

you can trot out "first grade coaches know more than you" all you want, but coaches get sacked and i am still here talking **** so i am the real winner in all of this

 

[Tiger Shark]

you can trot out "first grade coaches know more than you" all you want, but coaches get sacked and i am still here talking **** so i am the real winner in all of this

ha ... sure go with that

 

[Shortfin Mako]

Blind faith gets us nowhere. This is a forum, you are allowed to use your own brain.

Snowman is right, if Fitz thinks a Moylan/Hynes combo is whats best for the team then he is a dud.

It is not blind faith or not using your brain. It is simply my opinion that instead of prematurely writing about what ifs, just to wait and see what Fritz will do. The guy has not even officially started yet and we are talking about how he is a dud and will not see the end of season if he does this and that. If you like that kind of brain exercise, go ahead, of course, you are entitled to. However, writing what I have written, does not qualify me as someone who does not use his brain.

"In Fitz We Trust" is correct (at least for me) because he is the one paid big bucks to do something with this team. I do trust him and can't wait to see what he is going to do. I am excited and that is something I am entitled to at the beginning of a new season.

I may not know the technical ins and outs of the game as much as you guys do, however, I do know when something is working or not. In this case, I am simply waiting to collect more data. Right now, I do not think I (we) have enough data to have a discussion about this. That time will come but it is not now.

 

[Shortfin Mako]

Nah you see the window lickers in facebook moving Kennedy to centre and Trindall to the wing because they absolutely know more than a first grade coach.

If Fitz rolls out Moylan and Hynes then he must think that's the best pairing, or there's injuries and that's all we have.

I don't personally see it but stranger things have happened and if nuffie like you can see it then I'm sure Fitz does

What I understand from the article is that Fitz knows about Moylan and he rates him highly. We all know what Moylan can do when he is fit and is on fire. I think it is normal and even natural that Fitz is talking about Moylan at this time of the year.

Let's go through the pre-season training, let Fitz see how the halves connect and get a more in-depth look about Moylan's physical condition. He may even try Hynes/Moylan for a game or two to confirm to himself whatever he is confirming.

I do not personally see it either but let's see what Fizt will think. Nothing we heard, has seen and read about him so far says that he is a dud.

 

[slide rule]

I can see why Fitz would be saying Moylan/ Nicho.

They are the two biggest names. A former rep player and the big name recruit.

It’s kind of their position to lose, rightly or wrongly. Even from a man management position it’s the easiest default.

If their shortcomings don’t satisfy the requirements of the team then the dropping becomes obvious.

 

[slide rule]

Let’s just hope peak Fifita returns next season and we won’t need a long kicker. A 40m run every set would do the job...