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Fitzy finally had a bit of a blow up in the presser.

He thought Kennedy should have been awarded the try. Or the very least said during the next set Manly did the same "escort" but we didn't get the penalty.

He then may (or may not) have said that the refs would take some lessons out of that call and learn from it.
 
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apezza said:
Fitzy finally had a bit of a blow up in the presser.

He thought Kennedy should have been awarded the try. Or the very least said during the next set Manly did the same "escort" but we didn't get the penalty.

He then may (or may not) have said that the refs would take some lessons out of that call and learn from it.
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Haha...did you see how he looked up to see if he was allowed to say it? Probably thought it would cost us 10 grand.
 
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apezza said:
For those the other day thinking Paul McGregor should join as an assistant:

He has just landed a job as Coaching Consultant for the Dapto Canaries!

Highly in demand!
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I did mention that. Too many words I guess
 
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apezza said:
Fitzy finally had a bit of a blow up in the presser.

He thought Kennedy should have been awarded the try. Or the very least said during the next set Manly did the same "escort" but we didn't get the penalty.

He then may (or may not) have said that the refs would take some lessons out of that call and learn from it.
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The NRL take on learnings about as well as our team

I haven't seen a good angle or the lead up to Sam getting in position near Kennedy but even if it wasn't Sams intention to run an escort I think Kennedy did get an advantage from Sam being there so in a sense Kennedy kinda runs a shepherd so I was kinda ok with the call of penalty against us

If Sam ain't there Kennedy likely gets tackled so the question is why was Sam there, what was his intention and how did he get there. If he's just trying to back onside and get ready for our attacking set then I don't think that should be deemed an escort. The defender just needs to find away around him.

But the rules and interpretations change so much I don't actually know if it's a fair and reasonable interpretation and certainty not if it's a consistent one
 
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There’s been a lot of talk ever since Fitz came on board that his bench rotation is not great. It’s even called poor at times.

I must admit I’m a little unsure of what the perfect bench rotation is and it can’t be easy to get it right sometimes in the heat of the moment when quick decisions have to made.

So, can someone more clever than myself explain where he’s not doing it right and can they also highlight which coaches do get it right more often than not and what sets them apart from others?

This is not meant to be a Fitz bash or a defence of him, having not played the game my knowledge of how the bench rotation works is not great.
 
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Sir Chadley said:
There’s been a lot of talk ever since Fitz came on board that his bench rotation is not great. It’s even called poor at times.

I must admit I’m a little unsure of what the perfect bench rotation is and it can’t be easy to get it right sometimes in the heat of the moment when quick decisions have to made.

So, can someone more clever than myself explain where he’s not doing it right and can they also highlight which coaches do get it right more often than not and what sets them apart from others?

This is not meant to be a Fitz bash or a defence of him, having not played the game my knowledge of how the bench rotation works is not great.
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Yeah I had a look at the interchanges the other day, and it is difficult to know.

He has 8 subs. Last week the interchanges were:
  • 17 mins: Kaufusi off, Hazelton on
  • 27 mins: AFB off, Rudolf on
  • 30 mins: Cam off, Talakai on
  • 52 mins: Talakai off, Atkinson on (Talakai 22 minutes)
  • 55 mins: Hazelton off, AFB on (Hazelton 38 minutes)
  • 59 mins: Rudolf off, Cam on (Rudolf 32 mins)
  • 65 mins: Atkinson off, Kaufusi on (Atkinson 13 minutes)
  • 70 mins: AFB off, Hazelton on (injury)
I think this basically corresponds to:
  • 4 are front-rower subs (take 2 off in each half and put 2 on, not always a prop-to-prop swap though)
  • 3 were to rotate Cam/Talakai/Atko
  • 1 has to be held up his sleeve in case of injuries (on the weekend it was AFB).
I'd suggest something like this if we have 3 forwards/1 utility and no injuries/HIA:
  • 4 subs for the front-rowers (take 2 off in each half).
  • 2 subs so we have Cam 25 minutes, Talakai 30-40 minutes, Cam the remainder
  • 1 sub so if spark is needed, we have Wilton 50-60 minutes, Hohepa finish the game with 20-30 minutes depending on game situation. Or similar with Brailey/Berrell.
    • Doesn't have to be these exact players, just someone who might need a rest, and someone who can spark the attack. Instead the other day this sub was used to get Atko on for 12 minutes and cut into Talakai's game time. If it's not useful, don't use the #14, and put a bench prop or Talakai back on at the end. Or leave Talakai on and use the sub to also get Cam back in.
  • 1 spare for injury
Disclaimer: This is an uneducated opinion, I am not a coach, and don't study other team's interchanges at all :)
 
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SF said:
Yeah I had a look at the interchanges the other day, and it is difficult to know.

He has 8 subs. Last week the interchanges were:
  • 17 mins: Kaufusi off, Hazelton on
  • 27 mins: AFB off, Rudolf on
  • 30 mins: Cam off, Talakai on
  • 52 mins: Talakai off, Atkinson on (Talakai 22 minutes)
  • 55 mins: Hazelton off, AFB on (Hazelton 38 minutes)
  • 59 mins: Rudolf off, Cam on (Rudolf 32 mins)
  • 65 mins: Atkinson off, Kaufusi on (Atkinson 13 minutes)
  • 70 mins: AFB off, Hazelton on (injury)
I think this basically corresponds to:
  • 4 are front-rower subs (take 2 off in each half and put 2 on, not always a prop-to-prop swap though)
  • 3 were to rotate Cam/Talakai/Atko
  • 1 has to be held up his sleeve in case of injuries (on the weekend it was AFB).
I'd suggest something like this if we have 3 forwards/1 utility and no injuries/HIA:
  • 4 subs for the front-rowers (take 2 off in each half).
  • 2 subs so we have Cam 25 minutes, Talakai 30-40 minutes, Cam the remainder
  • 1 sub so if spark is needed, we have Wilton 50-60 minutes, Hohepa finish the game with 20-30 minutes depending on game situation. Or similar with Brailey/Berrell.
    • Doesn't have to be these exact players, just someone who might need a rest, and someone who can spark the attack. Instead the other day this sub was used to get Atko on for 12 minutes and cut into Talakai's game time.
    • If it's not useful, don't use the #14, and put a bench prop or Talakai back on at the end
  • 1 spare for injury
Disclaimer: This is an uneducated opinion, I am not a coach, and don't study other team's interchanges at all :)
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I appreciate your insights mate. However you could have saved yourself the effort. He actually asked for those more clever than him to respond!!
 
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SF said:
Yeah I had a look at the interchanges the other day, and it is difficult to know.

He has 8 subs. Last week the interchanges were:
  • 17 mins: Kaufusi off, Hazelton on
  • 27 mins: AFB off, Rudolf on
  • 30 mins: Cam off, Talakai on
  • 52 mins: Talakai off, Atkinson on (Talakai 22 minutes)
  • 55 mins: Hazelton off, AFB on (Hazelton 38 minutes)
  • 59 mins: Rudolf off, Cam on (Rudolf 32 mins)
  • 65 mins: Atkinson off, Kaufusi on (Atkinson 13 minutes)
  • 70 mins: AFB off, Hazelton on (injury)
I think this basically corresponds to:
  • 4 are front-rower subs (take 2 off in each half and put 2 on, not always a prop-to-prop swap though)
  • 3 were to rotate Cam/Talakai/Atko
  • 1 has to be held up his sleeve in case of injuries (on the weekend it was AFB).
I'd suggest something like this if we have 3 forwards/1 utility and no injuries/HIA:
  • 4 subs for the front-rowers (take 2 off in each half).
  • 2 subs so we have Cam 25 minutes, Talakai 30-40 minutes, Cam the remainder
  • 1 sub so if spark is needed, we have Wilton 50-60 minutes, Hohepa finish the game with 20-30 minutes depending on game situation. Or similar with Brailey/Berrell.
    • Doesn't have to be these exact players, just someone who might need a rest, and someone who can spark the attack. Instead the other day this sub was used to get Atko on for 12 minutes and cut into Talakai's game time.
    • If it's not useful, don't use the #14, and put a bench prop or Talakai back on at the end
  • 1 spare for injury
Disclaimer: This is an uneducated opinion, I am not a coach, and don't study other team's interchanges at all :)
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In all seriousness, I would have left Sifa on instead of replacing with Atko. Sifa needs at least 35mins
 
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