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Headgear does nothing for concussion. Look at the NFL, helmuts don't do much
The difference is their helmets are hard externally providing minimal impact absorption and have a whiplashing action when they bounce off each other. Our headgear is made from spongy material which absorbs the impact.

Simple experiment - drop a marble or ball bearing from a height onto a concrete floor and see how high it bounces up. Now put a 1cm kitchen sponge on floor and drop the ball from same height onto sponge. The sponge has absorbed some of the energy and the ball does not bounce as high.
 

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The difference is their helmets are hard externally providing minimal impact absorption and have a whiplashing action when they bounce off each other. Our headgear is made from spongy material which absorbs the impact.

Simple experiment - drop a marble or ball bearing from a height onto a concrete floor and see how high it bounces up. Now put a 1cm kitchen sponge on floor and drop the ball from same height onto sponge. The sponge has absorbed some of the energy and the ball does not bounce as high.

The real science is doing it with your head
 
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No idea what NRL physio says but headgear does nothing to protect the brain from concussion.
 

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No idea what NRL physio says but headgear does nothing to protect the brain from concussion.

Yep.

I'm not aware but I would have thought headgear would also be mandatory for juniors and eventually within 20yrs in NRL by which time are accustomed to wearing headgear.

Understandably, headgear does not prevent the brain from rocking and rolling during a collision however it absorbs the impact, eg a 20km impact may now be a 10km impact thereby minimising injury. Additionally, headgear minimises superficial cuts and bruises.

Sharkmate. Go and have a look at the actual science on this. Doesn't prevent concussion, but does minimise cuts and abrasions (moreso in Rugby Union with mauls etc.). There is also some data suggesting that wearing headgear could make players over-confident and thus more likely to suffer a concussion.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?...ussion+rugby&btnG=&oq=headgear+concussion+rug

Here is one conclusion specifically addressing drop test impacts.


This indicates that the foam material was completely compressed at an impact energy above about 20 J and therefore offers little protection against impacts of greater severity. Repeated tests using a drop height of 0.3 m showed that some helmets exhibit a “memory” effect, whereby impact performance is reduced by up to 50% with repeated impacts.

Laboratory tests indicate that current commercially available football headgear performance will not reduce the likelihood of concussion. The absence of internationally recognised standards for soft headgear designed to ameliorate concussion is a major deficiency in sports injury prevention.


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So a 1kg weight dropped from 50cm completely compressed the foam. Any force greater than that is worn by the head.

Yep. It only protects from cuts and abrasions.

...and makes mums feel better about little Johnny playing footy.

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I my experience, the amount of children who wear headgear in their first year of Rugby League is close to 100%, but about half of them get rid of it before the end of their first year. Most kids who play with it past year two tend to stick with it, for no other reason than it being a confidence thing and/or their parents saying they have to.

In the end, don't put your kid in headgear to protect him, but if he/she has to wear it to make mum feel good, so be it. It's better than leaving to play soccer.
 

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Don’t want to sound negative.

Loses his spot for Wilton next week in my perspective.
 

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Don’t want to sound negative.

Loses his spot for Wilton next week in my perspective.

that's not negative. you are entitled to your opinion mate in a forum

yeah half of me agrees with you. wilton, just does all the 1% right
briton, makes some dumb decisions

but half of me says, coach won't do that, he does things that keep him in
 

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He has had plenty of worse games than that.
Come next season he will be lucky to hold Wilton out of start though
 

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his poor discipline has been there all season but I came to the relisation this game that Nikora is actually a bit of a grub player
 

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There was a stat only a few weeks ago showing players who didn’t get the crack down message and Nikora was number 1 on the list for the most high shots penalised this year. Can’t remember where I seen it though.

Also just checked and he’s equal 2nd most overall penalised player tied with JWH and only Hethrington above him, so he definitely has a bit of a discipline problem
 

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the push in the back was disappointing.
he could have swallowed the bloke up in goal for repeat set. but that happens in the moment I guess
we got there in the end. our backs did well to win it for us yesterday
 

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Good effort to be a top penalty leaker when we are one of the less penalised sides
Equal 9th on average with 0.7 per game out of team average 4.6 per game, so he single handedly gives away 15% of our penalties
 
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the push in the back was disappointing.
he could have swallowed the bloke up in goal for repeat set. but that happens in the moment I guess
we got there in the end. our backs did well to win it for us yesterday

That was so ****ing dumb
 

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The penalty totals one player can be misleading. They always point out an individual even if there are multiple players involved. For example, in the first Knights game Nikora was attributed with late the inside 10m penalty after the whole right side mistimed their run and were in front of the kicker. It would be hard to call a play like that “poor discipline”.

Same with things like double movement or obstruction. Those are mistakes, but not poor discipline.

If he’s being penalised a lot for high or dangerous tackles, then his tackle technique definitely needs work - but that’s not new information.
 
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