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it's a semi reasonable reflection of the forum / forum members which is where and who we are posting and arguing among right now

don't be upset that Chad didn't win it this year, he bailed on us despite being loved whole heartidly by each and every fan
It tracks who has how many very good games, it says nothing about anyone's form for any games they are outside the top 3.
I'd rather Brailey be, say, 5th-8th best player every game than a single vote in a player of the year but also awful sometimes.

A 1-10 for each player would be a fairer system to use it to make calls like this, although with such a wide scale people voting like knobs skews it a lot
 

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Wow hard Markers in here.Hope he stays,but we don't pay overs,and also don't play funny buggers and low ball him.Hes developing well I M H O.
 

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Whew. A lot to unpack here.
I don't think it's fair to expect Blayke to be turning games right now. I'm happy with him doing a very solid job week in, week out until the pack improves. When it does I'm pretty confident you'll see a lot more of the game we've had glimpses of... which I expect is next year.

Is he as good as his brother, @Chad ? Maybe a year behind, but I think Blake will be better, given the platform. I see hookers like halves - you need some go forward to give them a chance to take control.

Is he a top 5 player? Yep. Like I think @burgess1978 or @bort said, some have had better games but not many have been as consistently good... Hard markers indeed @stormshark !
 

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That just can't be justified mate imo. The rumours are Mahoney is being offered 650k, he's comfortably better than Blayke imo.
i should put this tweet in the louvre

remember when i used to compare the 2 and people laughed at me? i do

anymore than 220k for brailey and we have been rorted, he is average
 

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Reckon the bloke will shine under Fitz and not having that ****ing ballerina Woods next to him in defence.

Got no issue giving him an extension at reasonable dollars. Particularly with what some of the 9's who are hitting the market are going to look to demand.
 

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I’m happy with how his attacking game is developing it’s his defence that’s the concern.

His post contact meters conceded would of topped the league, now how much of that is due to the **** forwards around him, not being able to get a rest this year or his poor technique.

I think he needs to start off the bench and come on at 15 min mark with McInnes starting then shifting to lock for the first half of the season as Melbourne did with Smith/Grant this season.
 

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I’m happy with how his attacking game is developing it’s his defence that’s the concern.

His post contact meters conceded would of topped the league, now how much of that is due to the **** forwards around him, not being able to get a rest this year or his poor technique.

I think he needs to start off the bench and come on at 15 min mark with McInnes starting then shifting to lock for the first half of the season as Melbourne did with Smith/Grant this season.
I'd be surprised if there were many forwards in the NRL who are looking across our line before their hitup and thinking 'Imma pick out Brailey, the forwards around him are ****'

They run at Brailey because he is tiny.
**** forwards around him compound the problem* but the main cause is his size.
Had a quick glance across a couple names and Blayke wiki says 1.80 and 80kg, Reed says 1.75 and 86kg, Reece Robson says 1.80 93kg and a few others who all weighed 86kg+so he is essentially 10% lighter than he should be, which adds up.

His technique is typically okay, and he does land some good front ons at times. I think the high workrate across the park by him (attack and defence) without a good rest opportunity probably enhances the issue a bit too, but still the base issue is his size.

And lightweight also likely a big factor in why he doesn't try to dig into opposition forwards on a scoot as good chance he is dominated and gives up slow PTB, instead looks for a runner. I think right call, we just need the runners.

*On '**** forwards' the likes of Woods and Tolman actually do a good job helping him, it's just the opp player has made a few PCMs before they can complete their work as second man in because opp is already pushing through line.
Wood's issue is his own wild misses on fast paced one on ones.
But I do think Finucane and McInnes will be as good and probably better than Woods at helping Blayke out and further to that they will actively put themselves in position to be making more tackles which is not something I really wanted Woods to be doing as he wasn't up for it. Additionally lock (Rudolf) is also being upgraded so that's double benefit, and with any luck Blayke finds most of that 10% weight increase between last game and start of season.

All just my thoughts and observations obviously
 
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Yep. There is an elements of both "run at the little bloke" and "tire out the ballplayer".
True, no matter how much better a prop thinks they are than Aaron Woods running at him instead of Blayke if you have a choice is just not tactically sound.

A faster (/more agile) player, especially against a more staggered line, is a different story.

The other good one was also on NAS, Blayke got beat and then actively pulled Woods off the tackle. Woods was blamed for rolling himself and Brailey off the tackle.
 

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I'd be surprised if there were many forwards in the NRL who are looking across our line before their hitup and thinking 'Imma pick out Brailey, the forwards around him are ****'

They run at Brailey because he is tiny.
**** forwards around him compound the problem* but the main cause is his size.
Had a quick glance across a couple names and Blayke wiki says 1.80 and 80kg, Reed says 1.75 and 86kg, Reece Robson says 1.80 93kg and a few others who all weighed 86kg+so he is essentially 10% lighter than he should be, which adds up.

His technique is typically okay, and he does land some good front ons at times. I think the high workrate across the park by him (attack and defence) without a good rest opportunity probably enhances the issue a bit too, but still the base issue is his size.

And lightweight also likely a big factor in why he doesn't try to dig into opposition forwards on a scoot as good chance he is dominated and gives up slow PTB, instead looks for a runner. I think right call, we just need the runners.

*On '**** forwards' the likes of Woods and Tolman actually do a good job helping him, it's just the opp player has made a few PCMs before they can complete their work as second man in because opp is already pushing through line.
Wood's issue is his own wild misses on fast paced one on ones.
But I do think Finucane and McInnes will be as good and probably better than Woods at helping Blayke out and further to that they will actively put themselves in position to be making more tackles which is not something I really wanted Woods to be doing as he wasn't up for it. Additionally lock (Rudolf) is also being upgraded so that's double benefit, and with any luck Blayke finds most of that 10% weight increase between last game and start of season.

All just my thoughts and observations obviously
Would agree with just about everything there mate, except maybe the Tolman/Woods helping defensively and just having issues with the 1-1's. Their lateral movement is as agile as a rhino with a Zimmer frame and they get found out in the middle of the park regularly, leaving others to cover (compounded by a few other forwards with similar issues) such as Baby Body Blayke.
 
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When he signed in 2019 Riccio said his deal was 400k per year. Might be incentive based but Roosters and a few clubs were after him then.

His next deal will be more than that I assume
 
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Jesus that was very generous
Maybe but there was 4 or so clubs after him and you’ve seen what clubs will pay to get them to their teams.

And he’s a spine player who touches the ball more than anyone. The good ones are always going to get paid
 

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Maybe but there was 4 or so clubs after him and you’ve seen what clubs will pay to get them to their teams.

And he’s a spine player who touches the ball more than anyone. The good ones are always going to get paid
I don't have an issue with the bold bit.
 

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He must give the cleanest service in the game. I think we're overlooking his qualities and focusing on his deficiencies, most of which should be improved next year.

Expecting a Kennedy-like year from Blayke.
 
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I don't have an issue with the bold bit.

And you don't think Brailey is a good hooker ?

Aside from the tippy top hookers - Smith, Grant, Cook, Mahoney, Api - not sure who else imo is above Blayke.

It's not his bro, you could argue Hodgson but he's an old man and hasn't been good for a while.

Maybe I'm missing someone but he's in the top half of hookers and only going to get better with some help in the middle and more experience, and less of a workload to be more attacking
 
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