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DARREN LOCKYER has been the face of Friday's Centenary Test but Australia's captain will miss the milestone match after succumbing to complications with his recently reconstructed knee.

The Broncos star has adorned thousands of posters promoting the Test between Australia and New Zealand in recent weeks but sadly that is the only time he will wear the historic blue and maroon-striped jumper.

Lockyer's State of Origin campaign is also under a cloud.

Cameron Smith (Melbourne) will again captain Australia in Lockyer's absence.

The 31-year-old limped around ANZ Stadium on Saturday night in the Broncos' win against Wests Tigers with his right knee heavily strapped.

As the team and staff arrived to go into camp in Sydney last night, their worst fears were confirmed.

"I would have loved to have been a part of the game. But with my knee I wouldn't have been able to put any preparation in with the team and I think in a rep team that's important ... with the new combinations," Lockyer said.

'Going into the game not knowing if it would hold up, to be honest I would have been more of a liability.

"It's such a big game and I would not be 100 per cent and it's not worth the risk."

Lockyer flew home to Brisbane last night to arrange an arthroscopy to find out the extent of damage.

The Queensland captain admitted his Origin campaign was also in doubt, given the first game is on May 21.

"My Origin is definitely doubtful. Then again, I want to move on this as quickly as I can," he said.

"I'm confident that once I get back to that 100 per cent fitness level, that long-term everything will be OK."

Swelling and soreness on the knee have hindered Lockyer in the opening rounds of 2008 after a knee reconstruction last July.

When he came through 80 minutes against Souths at Suncorp Stadium 10 days ago the Test selectors had no hesitation in naming him despite missing three club games due to his knee.

Australia coach Ricky Stuart said the loss would hit the team hard.

"It's a massive blow but more importantly it's the best decision for Darren Lockyer as it's very early in the season. He's put the team first, but that's Darren Lockyer all over," Stuart said.

"It's disappointing for us because we've lost one of the best players in the game today."

The other injury worry for Stuart is Justin Hodges (shoulder), who wanted to be rested from the first few days of training to ensure his fitness. Stuart said he would comply with his centre's request.

"I will. I'll talk to Justin first when he gets in (camp) and he'll give me a read on that," Stuart said.

"I'm sure he would have told me by now if he wasn't confident of playing."

Stuart had already named an 18th man for the Test in Titans second-rower Anthony Laffranchi but will need another back if Hodges is ruled out later in the week.

Warriors centre Brent Tate is the man most likely to step in should Hodges lose his fitness battle.

Greg Bird will move from lock to five-eighth in place of Lockyer while Michael Crocker comes into the squad of 17. Laffranchi remains as 18th man.

Bird's Cronulla team-mate Paul Gallen, who was originally named in the second row, should slip back to lock where he plays each week for the Sharks. But Stuart said he would decide on the backrow in the next few days.

* NSW coach Craig Bellamy has already made up his mind who will play halfback for the Blues against Queensland on May 21 but he's torn on who will wear the No6 jersey.

Bellamy declined to reveal his preferred halfback, although Newcastle utility Kurt Gidley appears almost certain to make his starting debut for the Blues at ANZ Stadium.

The five-eighth position is more open, with Bellamy tossing up whether to start with Braith Anasta or Greg Bird.

"Five-eighth is a bit more difficult," Bellamy said on ABC Radio yesterday.

"I'm still sitting on the fence there to be quite honest. But as far as halfback goes I've got in my head who I think will do the best job in the way we want to play the game."
 

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i cant believe they brought in crocker instead of lafrankie, geez hes dominated 2008, played awesome in city country and is def gunna get the origin nod....why wouldnt they pick him!?!

good news for birdy, puts him right in the middle of the action. if he has a good game he'll be a shoe in for 5/8 in origin.....pffft unlucky braith
 

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Bird's Cronulla team-mate Paul Gallen, who was originally named in the second row, should slip back to lock where he plays each week for the Sharks.

:confused: I don't even think he's played lock for us so far this season!
 

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greg bird should get the nod at 5/8 in origin so laffrankie can come into the side
sucks to be braith atm:)
 

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sucks to be laffranchi. what does the bloke have to do to get into the team? top 5 players in the comp this year and named 18th man where he shouldve been selected in the team anyway, then crocker who hasnt been anywhere near the quality of laffranchi gets thrown into the team ahead of him. team clearly not picked on form in this case
 

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sucks to be laffranchi. what does the bloke have to do to get into the team? top 5 players in the comp this year and named 18th man where he shouldve been selected in the team anyway, then crocker who hasnt been anywhere near the quality of laffranchi gets thrown into the team ahead of him. team clearly not picked on form in this case

couldnt agree with u more brad
 

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Did Laffranchi pick up an injury on the weekend? Otherwise I can't understand why the selectors would go for Crocker ahead of him, especially when he was originally named as 18th man.
 

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Did Laffranchi pick up an injury on the weekend? Otherwise I can't understand why the selectors would go for Crocker ahead of him, especially when he was originally named as 18th man.

I think Crocker adds a bit more aggression than Laffranchi. Stuart is preparing for war and Crocker fits the bill for that kind of game.
 

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I think Crocker adds a bit more aggression than Laffranchi. Stuart is preparing for war and Crocker fits the bill for that kind of game.

You could be right there Teflon - but they already went with Carl Webb, who also brings plenty of aggression to the side - I hope they aren't going over the top in that department. On pure footballing ability, I would take Laffranchi over both.
 

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laffrankie shouldn't worry as he is a shoe in for origin and should be playing at the world cup barr any injuries, and maybe for NSW bird will go 5/8 and laffrankie slots into the bech/ 2nd row
 

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while its good Birds in the side.....why is he good enough to play 5/8 for state and country...but not for his club side?

which brings me to the question of where everyone thinks hes better suited lock or 5/8??
 

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I personally prefer him playing lock, he can just worry about his own game, not running the team around the paddock and having the pressures of executing the gameplan. I just like him getting involved when he see's fit and ball plays whats in front of him.
 

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while its good Birds in the side.....why is he good enough to play 5/8 for state and country...but not for his club side?

which brings me to the question of where everyone thinks hes better suited lock or 5/8??

bird is a quality fgootballer who can obviosuly play on every postion on the park maybe not fullback and wing but he hisa massive talent acn can be the player who fills in gaps. Personally i agree with pomeroy he is best suited at lock not as a 5/8 because 5/8's touch the ball to much and unlike a lock cannot inject themselves in at one time to do a wonder play because their always touching it. Bird needs to stay at lock and then let our halves tussle it out for who plays were it just seems that lately when one halve gets injure the other one can play for us and then when one comes back from injurey another gets injured the week before.
 

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i tend to agree hes better at lock, but having said that, hes a strong ball runner and can cause some damage running at the smaller blokes whilst at 5/8.

he plays alot like fittler actually....strong runner with a good passing game and the slowest left foot step in the world
 

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i think he suits better at 5/8 in rep games because you need bigger and tougher players that also have the skill to guide a team and create opportunites for his players. he is good for the sharks at lock because we can run him out wide attacking the fringes around the little men. rep and club are 2 very differnent arenas. but im sure birdy would do the job at either position at both rep and club levels. hes just a skillful versitile player that you would love to have on your team
 
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i tend to agree hes better at lock, but having said that, hes a strong ball runner and can cause some damage running at the smaller blokes whilst at 5/8.

he plays alot like fittler actually....strong runner with a good passing game and the slowest left foot step in the world

I was going to say the same thing why why why, put him at club 5/8 and be done with it, let Kimmorley and Seymour then fight it out for the halves position.

The more he has the ball in hand the more havoc it seems to create for other teams andI see it as a good thing.
 

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he has to many brain snaps at 5/8th(club level) leave him at lock. Remember when he hogged the field goal shots last year in one of the games (melbourne i think it was) when Seymour (who got one a week before to win) should of been going for them. And the grubers for Goodwin this year. he was just lucky Goodwin had some speed because we would of lost the game otherwise.

Lets see how he goes at Rep 5/8th this year if he is perfect then 5/8th next year for sure. but at the moment when the pressure is on he seems to rush and brain snap to easy.
 
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