Benefit of the Doubt

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Call me cynical, but for the life of me, I do not know how Rugby League survived without the rise of the pre-eminent referee and so many forced stoppages in play. :confused:

I'm sick and tired of hearing about referees, Bill Harrigan, video referees, benefit of the doubt, obstruction rules, rebounds, et al...

Rugby League contests need to be decided by players with a badge on their chest and a number on their back and not the attention seeking ponces in pink.

/end rant
 

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After seeing Haslers idea about using the NFL style replay for the ref, I was wondering what you guys think about it.

For those who don't know about it.

They have monitors on the side of the field which the on field ref can view the replays to make a decision.
So the on field refs make the final call.
 

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After seeing Haslers idea about using the NFL style replay for the ref, I was wondering what you guys think about it.

For those who don't know about it.

They have monitors on the side of the field which the on field ref can view the replays to make a decision.
So the on field refs make the final call.

Love it.
 

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will slow the game down even more and the crowd pressure would be immense, especially if the crowd could see exactly what the ref is seeing

It would be know different to the current system when waiting for the upstairs video ref to view it.

They could also put the same footage on the big screen.
 
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the ref wanders off the field sticks his head in a box and watches a monitor as the crowd watches the same thing and boos and hisses.Then the reff wanders all the way back to the point of play and makes his decision, and crowd boos and hisses gain....all seems very time consuming and melodratic for mine
 

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Yeah but this way the on-field ref, the one that SHOULD call it, has to call it.
 

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I really hope we don't go NFL style challenges, just give the benefit to the defensive team i think 9 times out of 10 that will solve all the problems we have had this year, if the nrl deem that they are screwing on the attacking team make it a mandatory drop out.
 

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I think the crowd pressure in an NFL game would be more intense than an NRL game considering there is about 50 to 60 thousand people in the crowd and millions more watching at home compared to about 10 to 20 thousand people in the crowd and a few hundred thousand watching at home.

I also don't agree with how long it would take. The video refs take long enough as it is
 

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The benefit of that system is that the on-field ref knows exactly what he saw without having to articulate it to someone else. If the footage is 50/50 he has his own observations to call on. Under the current system, you get one guy with no idea referring to another guy with no idea and then explaining to the captain "it was not my decision".

As per my previous post, if the video ref isn't get it right 100% of the time there is no point having it at all.
 

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I think I may have mentioned this before but my idea is that the video referees should be isolated in a booth with no exposure to the game until they are required. Then, when a decision needs to be made, they get a call, the monitors turn on and replay the footage of the incident to be adjudicated on.

My reasoning for this system is that too often, the video referee's decision is influenced by the scoreline or the momentum of the game. How often have you seen a blatant "no try" be given as a try when the scoring team is well behind? On the other hand, when the game is close, the video ref is much less likely to award a contentious try.

I also feel that the video referee will often make a ruling to "even out" or "square up" a lopsided penalty count or bad decision. Look at the Cowboys V Manly game that everyone is up in arms about; the try the Cowboys scored to even up the score came after a blatant Cowboys strip, which was shown to the whole crowd and TV audience in close-up and slow-mo. Also, the last pass thrown by Thurston was clearly forward. I have no doubt that the video referee, having seen these mistakes by the on-field officials, were always going to be more inclined to rule in Manly's favour in order to "right the wrong".

There would have been concerns that those bad decisions let the Cowboys back in the game and would cause controversy if they cost Manly the game (which it would).

If the video ref's were not aware of those previous bad decisions and the scoreline at the time, I doubt they would have awarded the Foran try.
 

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The first cartoon is cool for us, but the last is ***** funny & relevant to this thread.

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