(Archived) THE RUMOUR MILL - Player Movement

[sharkyboy]

I actually agree with shire1976. Good stuff largely isn't news because its what we expect.

But I strongly think that those in the sports media should spend a ****load more time writing about sport and a whole lot less about all the peripheral ****. (Except, perhaps, for taking on sports administrations because they're an important check on that power.)

Example: Cricinfo. They produce regular content, day after day, all round the world, with many fewer games being played than the NRL or AFL. Almost all of what they churn out is interesting, not dumbed down, opinionated without being biased and entirely relevant to the game. There do profile pieces but they're balanced. They call out poor performances but they admit it when they're wrong. The writers' personalities come through but the articles aren't about the writers.

I honestly don't understand what is so hard about it - just write about whatever friggen interests you about the game and chances are it will interest your readers too if you do it well.

If I could take this post out on a date I would do it.

 

[Mr Wright]

I want to read articles that actually analyze the ****ing game.

I couldn't really care less about what players do when they're not on the field.

 

[sharkyboy]

That's why I (and a lot of footy purists) love sterlo.

Actually discussing the game and plays etc. remember that segment he had where he had the players talk through what they were thinking and planning during certain plays? The one with toddy was awesome

 

[Mr Wright]

That's why I (and a lot of footy purists) love sterlo.

Actually discussing the game and plays etc. remember that segment he had where he had the players talk through what they were thinking and planning during certain plays? The one with toddy was awesome

Sterlo is a seriously great footy show. 360 goes good too, but the show can get caught up in the headlines too.

 

[Nicholas2230]

360 is useless mate, Paul Kent has the brain power of a newt. His hate for the Sharks sickens me. Sterlo was a class act on the field and now is off the field, his show is balanced and interesting and if we could have it every night of the week I'd happily take it. Best thing he ever did for his media career was leave that joke of a "footy" show on 9

 

[SHARKSTER]

I don't care if I'm criticised for this but as a journalist by trade and a senior manager in the mainstream media (and an obsessed Sharks supporter) I'm so sick of the argument that Cam Smith makes. It is utter garbage that it is the media's fault.

Yes I agree the Wade Graham story is a nothing beat up and the fact very few other outlets have followed it up shows that's the case. However plenty of stories have been written and broadcast about the positive things players do, they are weekly and even Wade had positive press about the fact he took a year to discover his indigenous heritage. There are stories all the time about charities, schools and hospital visits, but the reality is the public don't care so they don't attract attention. Forums like this rarely devote a thread to a story about a player visiting a hospital. The media responds to what the public is interested in and it doesn't matter whether it is sport or politics, bad news, controversy etc gets people talking. Why is it that mainstream news websites are dominated by trashy stories about reality TV and Z grade models? I assure you journos have no interest in writing those, but it's done because they attract web clicks, bottom line.

If anyone is to blame it's the nature of human interest.

Sorry rant over, it just really cheeses me off.

Can't be stuffed drawing a stick figure with a bright red head, but you will get my drift...

This is beetroot face
Beetroot face is a journo and a wanker
Beetroot face writes utter rubbish and is totally obsessed with gutter journalism
Beetroot face is mates with a two faced Gronk female journo who is as demented as he is
Beetroot face should piss off back to be a Dragons fan

Don't be like Beetroot face

 

[Sparkles]

Can't be stuffed drawing a stick figure with a bright red head, but you will get my drift...

This is beetroot face
Beetroot face is a journo and a wanker
Beetroot face writes utter rubbish and is totally obsessed with gutter journalism
Beetroot face is mates with a two faced Gronk female journo who is as demented as he is
Beetroot face should piss off back to be a Dragons fan

Don't be like Beetroot face

This is why we can't have nice things...

We get the opportunity to ask searching, intelligent questions of a professional in an industry that leads the way our game is perceived, and we get... this.

 

[Sparkles]

I don't care if I'm criticised for this but as a journalist by trade and a senior manager in the mainstream media (and an obsessed Sharks supporter) I'm so sick of the argument that Cam Smith makes. It is utter garbage that it is the media's fault.

Yes I agree the Wade Graham story is a nothing beat up and the fact very few other outlets have followed it up shows that's the case. However plenty of stories have been written and broadcast about the positive things players do, they are weekly and even Wade had positive press about the fact he took a year to discover his indigenous heritage. There are stories all the time about charities, schools and hospital visits, but the reality is the public don't care so they don't attract attention. Forums like this rarely devote a thread to a story about a player visiting a hospital. The media responds to what the public is interested in and it doesn't matter whether it is sport or politics, bad news, controversy etc gets people talking. Why is it that mainstream news websites are dominated by trashy stories about reality TV and Z grade models? I assure you journos have no interest in writing those, but it's done because they attract web clicks, bottom line.

If anyone is to blame it's the nature of human interest.

Sorry rant over, it just really cheeses me off.

Thanks for taking the time to attempt to share another point of view on this issue.

I don't know the types of stories you write, and I understand that there are sensationalists who make a name for themselves through the tabloid stories that people are drawn to, and that's the same everywhere, so no judgement from me.

It's a good point you raise about the RL conversation. A hospital visit seems to tick the moral box, which is then put aside. But what drives people is conflict and controversy. It's just a fact of human nature (like a bogan slagging you off the second you try to have a rational opinion or input.).

I hope you're not out off by the moronic element and keep sharing on this forum.

 

[Mark^Bastard]

There are people who like good journalism however by the numbers there are more that prefer tabloid rubbish.

Journalism is surely a doomed profession anyway so let them all smug their way into their graves I say.

I do my best to ignore it. It is a shame when it spills over into commentary. I just want to watch footy. I have no time for off field stuff any more. Good or bad, I don't want to know.

 

[slide rule]

Denan Kemp's Locker Room podcast is pretty good.

Use your time to listen to this type of thing, rather than reading the other type of thing.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Denan Kemp's Locker Room podcast is pretty good.

Use your time to listen to this type of thing, rather than reading the other type of thing.

Where can I listen to that, Slide?

 

[sharkyboy]

Where can I listen to that, Slide?

It's everywhere pretty sure.

I watch/listen to it on YouTube though with the video as he records it on camera too.

Some of the players are dumb as dog**** and boring but I enjoyed Blake Austin and Josh Morris who were recently on

 

[HaroldBishop]

It's everywhere pretty sure.

I watch/listen to it on YouTube though with the video as he records it on camera too.

Some of the players are dumb as dog**** and boring but I enjoyed Blake Austin and Josh Morris who were recently on

Youtube huh, that will do me.

So who is this dude?

Edit: Just realised who it is. Doh.

 

[sharks2010]

Can't be stuffed drawing a stick figure with a bright red head, but you will get my drift...

This is beetroot face
Beetroot face is a journo and a wanker
Beetroot face writes utter rubbish and is totally obsessed with gutter journalism
Beetroot face is mates with a two faced Gronk female journo who is as demented as he is
Beetroot face should piss off back to be a Dragons fan

Don't be like Beetroot face

welcome back hahaha

 

[slide rule]

Youtube huh, that will do me.

So who is this dude?

Edit: Just realised who it is. Doh.

It's also on itunes etc.

He basically just talks to a player for an hour so. It's very casual.

I just like it because the conversations go past the usual cliches and the players (mostly) seem comfortable to talk to him.

 

[HaroldBishop]

It's also on itunes etc.

He basically just talks to a player for an hour so. It's very casual.

I just like it because the conversations go past the usual cliches and the players (mostly) seem comfortable to talk to him.

iTunes is probably better, I'm only interested in audio. Cheers Slide.

 

[Mr Wright]

It's also on itunes etc.

He basically just talks to a player for an hour so. It's very casual.

I just like it because the conversations go past the usual cliches and the players (mostly) seem comfortable to talk to him.

Anyone else watch the interview he did with Gal?

It was so painful to listen to. Gal wouldn't shut up and let Denan go backwards and forwards with him. Keep blowing your own trumpet Paul.

 

[slide rule]

Anyone else watch the interview he did with Gal?

It was so painful to listen to. Gal wouldn't shut up and let Denan go backwards and forwards with him. Keep blowing your own trumpet Paul.

Yes! Far too much trumpet.

 

[Mr Wright]

Yes! Far too much trumpet.

Needed more cow bell.

 

[sharkyboy]

It's also on itunes etc.

He basically just talks to a player for an hour so. It's very casual.

I just like it because the conversations go past the usual cliches and the players (mostly) seem comfortable to talk to him.

You can tell the players feel comfortable. He swears and if they do its all good and their answers seem way more genuine