Official Andrew Fifita

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I’m more upset with this than Bomber.

Surely his 15 minutes is better than Billy Mag.

He’s suspended until round 9.

By round 9, we will presumably have Hunt, Graham, Talakai and Dugan all back.

It’s not just Magoulias.

To give Fifita a run, Hannay needs justify picking him ahead of Magoulias AND 2 of Woods, Uele, Tolman, Rudolf, Hunt, Talakai, Wilton, Nikora, Williams or Tracey
 

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I’m more upset with this than Bomber.

Surely his 15 minutes is better than Billy Mag.

Last weekend in reserve grade Fifita played 53 minutes and ran an average 6.7m per run and tackled at 86.2% (26 made tackles).
Hardly stats in reserve grade that warrant coming up.

Billy isn't doing a huge amount but does seem to be being used intentionally for a lot of passing shifts rather than hitups. Needing to be in place for those does limit when he can take hitups too, especially as usually backs/props will take first couple runs.
Seems he often has to get in place for the shift rather than be available for a run.

In the only games Billy played more than half an hour
v Eels 42 minutes 3 runs for 35 meters, 33 tackles at 94.3%
v Cowboys 35 mins 10 runs for 96 meters, 24 tackles at 92.3%

He isn't running a lot (which seems to be at least partially intentional for game plan) but is outperforming Fifita in defence (against NRL players instead of reserves). He is also more versatile.
If we needed someone to jog around and take a lot of **** runs maybe Fifi is our guy but otherwise I don't see a great argument for him to beat out Magoulias. Don't get me wrong though, I also think Billy is pretty replaceable when all fit.
 

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Last weekend in reserve grade Fifita played 53 minutes and ran an average 6.7m per run and tackled at 86.2% (26 made tackles).
Hardly stats in reserve grade that warrant coming up.

Wow... didn't think it was that bad. Looks like he's checked out and ready to reunite with his little bro
 

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leave out that he had twice the workload in attack of the other forwards and the most run metres in the team and more than half were post contact. plus 11 tackle busts, 5 offloads, 0 errors you dog
 

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leave out that he had twice the workload in attack of the other forwards and the most run metres in the team and more than half were post contact. plus 11 tackle busts, 5 offloads, 0 errors you dog

Lol yea boy. stick around bro we need your fire
 

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leave out that he had twice the workload in attack of the other forwards and the most run metres in the team and more than half were post contact. plus 11 tackle busts, 5 offloads, 0 errors you dog

Still made **** all meters.
Not saying he didn't do anything, just saying what he did do was very low impact for someone who has played origin and tier 1 internatationals trying to earn a promotion out of reserve grade. Showing the stats don't suggest he'd be more useful than Billy for a short stint.
Admittedly I didn't see the first half so if he ran three or four times better in first 20 than he did the rest of his 50ish minutes I guess I would be interested to hear that, although it does indicate that he couldn't be relied on in NRL in case we had injuries (which has been common).

Tackle busts were clearly all going sideways pushing off reserve graders making no ground. The fact like 2/3rds his bugger all meters were post contact just means he was moving really slow before he got to the defense but as a large full time professional athlete was still kind of strong. If he can only run two meters forward before an NRL quality defence gets to him those post contact meters would go down drastically.

Saw at least one decent offload in second half but that was because he was crabbing around palming off reserve graders going nowhere and eventually handed the ball off to someone else to do something with.

... you dog
 
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Anyone who watched the game could tell you he was putrid. 11 tackle busts would have been from standing on the spot palming people going nowhere.
 

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Anyone who watched the game could tell you he was putrid. 11 tackle busts would have been from standing on the spot palming people going nowhere.

He was taking the absolute piss. No way he’d get back in after that game. Add in his careless high tackle, shooting out of the goal line for defence for an intercept leading to a try. He’s clocked off. Time to get rid of him
 
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He was taking the absolute piss. No way he’d get back in after that game. Add in his careless high tackle, shooting out of the goal line for defence for an intercept leading to a try. He’s clocked off. Time to get rid of him

**** I forgot about that intercept attempt. He clearly didn't give a ****.
 

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He was taking the absolute piss. No way he’d get back in after that game. Add in his careless high tackle, shooting out of the goal line for defence for an intercept leading to a try. He’s clocked off. Time to get rid of him

**** I forgot about that intercept attempt. He clearly didn't give a ****.

leave out that he had twice the workload in attack of the other forwards and the most run metres in the team and more than half were post contact. plus 11 tackle busts, 5 offloads, 0 errors you dog
 
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leave out that he had twice the workload in attack of the other forwards and the most run metres in the team and more than half were post contact. plus 11 tackle busts, 5 offloads, 0 errors you dog

Woof.
 

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leave out that he had twice the workload in attack of the other forwards and the most run metres in the team and more than half were post contact. plus 11 tackle busts, 5 offloads, 0 errors you god

ftfy
 

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see now thats actual valid criticism which is fine. instead of relying on out of context stats to **** on the bloke use actual bad **** he does.

he made 1/8th of the entire teams metres. the jets made **** all all game, bears were shooting up on him when he did get it because jets are **** and run 1 out all the time. he had plenty of perfectly good carries and he had some sideways carries, he played the same as he always does.

you know the game is available to rewatch on nswrl facebook page so you dogs dont have to go making **** up about a literal club god. the bloke has damaged his body permanently playing his **** out for this team.

the penalty that he is suspended for was softer than borts little spaghettio too, kikau level milking. and he was never getting over to make that tackle due to the complete lack of inside pressure from that ****ter garlick so why not throw a hand out. jets got worked all game and it was pure luck they didnt lose by 20.
 

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see now thats actual valid criticism which is fine. instead of relying on out of context stats to **** on the bloke use actual bad **** he does.

he made 1/8th of the entire teams metres. the jets made **** all all game, bears were shooting up on him when he did get it because jets are **** and run 1 out all the time. he had plenty of perfectly good carries and he had some sideways carries, he played the same as he always does.

you know the game is available to rewatch on nswrl facebook page so you dogs dont have to go making **** up about a literal club god. the bloke has damaged his body permanently playing his **** out for this team.

the penalty that he is suspended for was softer than borts little spaghettio too, kikau level milking. and he was never getting over to make that tackle due to the complete lack of inside pressure from that ****ter garlick so why not throw a hand out. jets got worked all game and it was pure luck they didnt lose by 20.

Watched it live.

Totally agree. It was a borderline penalty. 3 weeks for that was ridiculous.

I also agree the Jets were outplayed, and that Garlick was more responsible than Fifita on that play. Garlick is a good edge player but nowhere near as good as Gray in the middle. The team really dipped when Gray went off. He was tidying up the middle nicely.

I don't think Fifita was "too good for Cup" though. Solid but not outstanding. Just got a bit sideways late.
 
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