Official 2024 Sharks NRL General Discussion

[Sir Chadley]

Genuine question. - In your day-to-day life, how often do you feel you need to adjust what you do to appease other people with different ideologies from you?

Maybe I live in a bubble, but for me, it's never. I live my life as normal, and if any of the groups you mentioned ceased to exist, I'd find myself living no differently with no additional freedom to express myself.

I think people often feel what you've mentioned in bold, and think the real world is something like the video shortfin mako shared above. But I question is that reality?

Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious about your experience.

As a final point, I don't think society has really changed at all. As an example, Christianity has been canceling people for centuries, in much more graphic ways than unfollowing them on Instagram.

As I've got older, I have now tended to not get too worried about offending people, but in my job, I do have to be careful what I say a lot. Have to be aware of what to say and what not to say as people are very unpredictable and can be easily offended.

 

[Proud Shark]

I get your point.

I do deal with all demographics daily, and do have to “tailor” how I handle different scenarios.
So, for me, yes, there is an element of needing to adjust to appease, but I do understand that not everyone has to do that and I 100% get your point regarding Christianity.

I’m not a religious person personally, and Christianity is not the only religion that “has been canceling people for centuries” but yes, again I take your point.

Yeah definitely wasn't pointing out Christianity as the only one.

Interesting point on interactions. When I was teaching I did that in my job too, and I guess I do in life. But is it any different to how I tailor my interactions in talking to my grandmother, parents or mates? Hard to say. I think tailoring your engagement is just a part of being a good person, meeting someone else on their level.

Maybe the separation is wanting to do it vs feeling forced to do it?

 

[HaroldBishop]

As I've got older, I have now tended to not get too worried about offending people, but in my job, I do have to be careful what I say a lot. Have to be aware of what to say and what not to say as people are very unpredictable and can be easily offended.

Yeah we've noticed that mate.

 

[Proud Shark]

As I've got older, I have now tended to not get too worried about offending people, but in my job, I do have to be careful what I say a lot. Have to be aware of what to say and what not to say as people are very unpredictable and can be easily offended.

Yeah good point too. Work is a hard one as more often than not you're representing the company as well as yourself, so you have to tow the party line to a degree. Do you think you'd engage differently if you were running your own business doing what you do?

 

[Sir Chadley]

Yeah good point too. Work is a hard one as more often than not you're representing the company as well as yourself, so you have to tow the party line to a degree. Do you think you'd engage differently if you were running your own business doing what you do?

No I don't think I would as there is so much litigation if people get offended and even if I am not in wrong, I don't want to go through that hassle.

 

[bort]

Genuine question. - In your day-to-day life, how often do you feel you need to adjust what you do to appease other people with different ideologies from you?

Maybe I live in a bubble, but for me, it's never. I live my life as normal, and if any of the groups you mentioned ceased to exist, I'd find myself living no differently with no additional freedom to express myself.

I think people often feel what you've mentioned in bold, and think the real world is something like the video shortfin mako shared above. But I question is that reality?

Not trying to argue, just genuinely curious about your experience.

As a final point, I don't think society has really changed at all. As an example, Christianity has been canceling people for centuries, in much more graphic ways than unfollowing them on Instagram.

I deal with someone fairly regularly who prefers they over gendered pronoun and I try and use it for them. Minimal effort on my part, doesn't harm me. They never say anything when I get it wrong.

A lot of the outrage is overblown by very small vocal minorities. And the news ****ing feast on that. One person tweets they think a book should be banned and the news run with it and a bunch of people get all upset 'certain demographic' want to change their way of living.

I get your point.

I do deal with all demographics daily, and do have to “tailor” how I handle different scenarios.
So, for me, yes, there is an element of needing to adjust to appease, but I do understand that not everyone has to do that and I 100% get your point regarding Christianity.

I’m not a religious person personally, and Christianity is not the only religion that “has been canceling people for centuries” but yes, again I take your point.

I think we don't realise how much we tailor our interactions with others a lot though, we just aren't as used to doing it in these ways.

Someone says why should I call this person they just because they want me to and then calls their mate **** but their boss sir.
It is a bit of an adjustment like you say, but mostly pretty low impact. Low enough not worth worrying about whether you 'agree' with it or not.

Yeah definitely wasn't pointing out Christianity as the only one.

Interesting point on interactions. When I was teaching I did that in my job too, and I guess I do in life. But is it any different to how I tailor my interactions in talking to my grandmother, parents or mates? Hard to say. I think tailoring your engagement is just a part of being a good person, meeting someone else on their level.

Maybe the separation is wanting to do it vs feeling forced to do it?

Ah you already covered that! Without even using the word ****!

 

[Proud Shark]

No I don't think I would as there is so much litigation if people get offended and even if I am not in wrong, I don't want to go through that hassle.

Is that as much a judicial issue then? Seems crazy for people to have litigious opportunities, but I don't know anything about your work space (other than I think you're in recruitment).

 

[Sir Chadley]

Is that as much a judicial issue then? Seems crazy for people to have litigious opportunities, but I don't know anything about your work space (other than I think you're in recruitment).

Yes mate, recruitment is right. Potential discrimination is the main issue I have in my day to day job. You get someone you know is totally unsuitable for the job, and yet you have to be very careful how you communicate that to them.

I had a candidate apply for a traineeship and she took 5 weeks to get all the paperwork she needed to do sent to me. And this was paperwork that could easily be done in half a day, I had to chase her up constantly. The client decided (and I agreed) that she was not suitable, she wasn't showing a genuine desire and therefore decided not to go through with her in the role. The mother of this candidate then got on to social media and lambasted the client and said how unprofessional they were in not giving her daughter this opportunity.

My guess is the candidate didn't give her mother the whole story! The funny part was two weeks after this happened, the same candidate applied for the same role again.

 

[Proud Shark]

Yes mate, recruitment is right. Potential discrimination is the main issue I have in my day to day job. You get someone you know is totally unsuitable for the job, and yet you have to be very careful how you communicate that to them.

I had a candidate apply for a traineeship and she took 5 weeks to get all the paperwork she needed to do sent to me. And this was paperwork that could easily be done in half a day, I had to chase her up constantly. The client decided (and I agreed) that she was not suitable, she wasn't showing a genuine desire and therefore decided not to go through with her in the role. The mother of this candidate then got on to social media and lambasted the client and said how unprofessional they were in not giving her daughter this opportunity.

My guess is the candidate didn't give her mother the whole story! The funny part was two weeks after this happened, the same candidate applied for the same role again.

Yeah that's a **** situation and a careful line to walk regarding discrimination in the workplace.

Always going to have the crazies everywhere though. I'd hope these are the exception rather than the rule for you too though.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Yes mate, recruitment is right. Potential discrimination is the main issue I have in my day to day job. You get someone you know is totally unsuitable for the job, and yet you have to be very careful how you communicate that to them.

I had a candidate apply for a traineeship and she took 5 weeks to get all the paperwork she needed to do sent to me. And this was paperwork that could easily be done in half a day, I had to chase her up constantly. The client decided (and I agreed) that she was not suitable, she wasn't showing a genuine desire and therefore decided not to go through with her in the role. The mother of this candidate then got on to social media and lambasted the client and said how unprofessional they were in not giving her daughter this opportunity.

My guess is the candidate didn't give her mother the whole story! The funny part was two weeks after this happened, the same candidate applied for the same role again.

Soooo, did she get the job?

She would have been more prepared second time round.
Given that she had all the paperwork ready to go (presumably)

 

[Jaz]

Keary now retiring at the end of this season, despite having recently signed a contract extension.

Bet Joey Manu's impressed!

 

[bort]

Keary now retiring at the end of this season, despite having recently signed a contract extension.

Bet Joey Manu's impressed!

Make it easier to afford him at a good rate when he comes back for second half of the season!

 

[apezza]

Keary now retiring at the end of this season, despite having recently signed a contract extension.

Bet Joey Manu's impressed!

According to the Roosters, that will free up 2mil cap space a season!

 

[Sir Chadley]

Soooo, did she get the job?

She would have been more prepared second time round.
Given that she had all the paperwork ready to go (presumably)

Ha ha! No. Still looking for the right person!

 

[Shortfin Mako]

As I've got older, I have now tended to not get too worried about offending people, but in my job, I do have to be careful what I say a lot. Have to be aware of what to say and what not to say as people are very unpredictable and can be easily offended.

Is that because you just don't care about them or what they think? Gotta say, I am a bit offended.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Keary now retiring at the end of this season, despite having recently signed a contract extension.

He should have gone a couple of years ago.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Keary now retiring at the end of this season, despite having recently signed a contract extension.

Bet Joey Manu's impressed!

He should have gone a couple of years ago.

Do you think he might have been tapped on the shoulder perhaps?

 

[MrDravid]

Do you think he might have been tapped on the shoulder perhaps?

Uncle Nick said I've got this role you'd be perfect for?

 

[Western Sharkie]

Uncle Nick said I've got this role you'd be perfect for?

Here, take these brown paper bags to the boys each week……

You don’t need one anymore.

 

[Sparkles]

But if you said Men can't have babies

Don't oppress me!