2024 NRL Round 9 - Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks vs St George Illawarra Dragons, 4.05pm Sunday 5 May @ PointsBet Stadium

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Sloan cops a grade 1 for a tripping charge (which is all they are ever graded at these days)
So a fine only then
TBF he did it but wasn’t much in it from memory so a fine would probably be okay
So, just seen a front on visual of this and I stand correct.
How the **** did Sloan get to stay on and why a grade 1?
 

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So, just seen a front on visual of this and I stand correct.
How the **** did Sloan get to stay on and why a grade 1?
Apparently if his hand touches the body before the leg then it's technically not a trip (can still be a Careless tackle though)

If Sloan didn't have his hand outstretched then he would have been marched.
 
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Trips are always fines these days mate, have been for years now.
Not a good look thou.

especially how far out his leg was.

when I first saw it, I didn’t realise how much he stuck his leg out, but that front on view literally showed he needed to do the full splits to get near him for the trip.
 

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Not a good look thou.

especially how far out his leg was.

when I first saw it, I didn’t realise how much he stuck his leg out, but that front on view literally showed he needed to do the full splits to get near him for the trip.
Oh I agree with you, I think the punishment should be a bit harsher than a fine for at least some of them. There's a serious leg injury waiting to happen.
 

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Does Ben Hunt do the kickoffs or Lomax i can't remember? Cause Ben Hunt's short kick gaming was poor all night is prob gunna screw up a short kick off as well.

Maybe they were thinking get it down Sharks end and try and force an error in the wet conditions. Ofcourse maybe they just gave up and cbf anymore, Shane seemed to think along those lines in his pressor.

Speaking of Shane I wonder if he was put in charge of jersey embroidery last week and found a guy in china town that does it for half price
 

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Apparently if his hand touches the body before the leg then it's technically not a trip (can still be a Careless tackle though)

If Sloan didn't have his hand outstretched then he would have been marched.

Edit: this is not correct, see later comment

They said that on the tv, but the rule book says:

(2.1) The tackler's legs cannot be used to trip in a throw.
Application:
the use of the legs in a tackle is not permissible. using the legs (even if the defender has a hand/hands on the ball-carrier) to trip or throw the ball-carrier constitutes an infringement.
Reference:
law book - section 15, to law 1 (a) and (d), page 38.
 
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Does Ben Hunt do the kickoffs or Lomax i can't remember? Cause Ben Hunt's short kick gaming was poor all night is prob gunna screw up a short kick off as well.

Maybe they were thinking get it down Sharks end and try and force an error in the wet conditions. Ofcourse maybe they just gave up and cbf anymore, Shane seemed to think along those lines in his pressor.

Speaking of Shane I wonder if he was put in charge of jersey embroidery last week and found a guy in china town that does it for half price
Geez that would be a big problem for Flanno
If his charges “CBF” this early in his tenure as coach, I can’t see him last long there!!
 

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They said that on the tv, but the rule book says:

(2.1) The tackler's legs cannot be used to trip in a throw.
Application:
the use of the legs in a tackle is not permissible. using the legs (even if the defender has a hand/hands on the ball-carrier) to trip or throw the ball-carrier constitutes an infringement.
Reference:
law book - section 15, to law 1 (a) and (d), page 38.
I had this wrong, I was reading from the wrong section, this relates to junior league. I would still guess it's not too dissimilar for NRL, but no proof of that.


There is one interpretation that may be relevant:

Foul “throws” 1. (a) A tackler must not make use of any special “holds” or “throws” which are likely to cause injury or use his knees in the tackle. It is permissible for a tackler to bring a player in possession of the ball to the ground by pulling him over the outstretched leg provided he is holding the player with both arms before there is any contact with the leg.
 
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So Lomax doesn’t want to play on the wing??

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And our boy equal top!
 

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The Tough Carry: How the Sharks broke the Dragons down​

Tackle 1 is often the toughest carry of the set. It can make or break it. Here, it’s my biggest talking point from the round that was.

The Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks sit at the top of the NRL ladder after Round 9.

We’ve seen them dominate for periods of a season before. They still have to clear the hurdle of beating Top 8 teams consistently before it stops being mentioned. But as it stands, they’ve conceded the fewest points of all 17 teams and are playing with an attack averaging 27.4 points per game – the second-most in the NRL.

With Braydon Trindall in the side, they played with better balance than last season. Hynes was always the centrepiece of the attack, but Trindall took some of the pressure off and reduced the touches per game of his halfback. Has absence has led to an increase in touches for Hynes. Still, the Sharks attack continues to improve.

The Sharks played to cues especially well last season. But bad teams give you more cues. That’s why they have proven to be so successful against teams towards the bottom of the NRL ladder while struggling to get over those at the top.

We’re not yet sure if the St George Illawarra Dragons are good. They’re exceeding expectations, but we can’t say they’re a good team the Sharks toppled just yet. However, the way in which the Sharks scored their points is encouraging.

In three tries, the Sharks displayed their ability to make the most of targets in the line. They scored another ripper off a tap start and capitalised on a cue in yardage to score under the posts.

Playing to the plan​

Tyrell Sloan has improved to start the 2024 NRL season. He’s been a big part of the Dragons’ relatively strong start. But his small frame will always be a target in the line, and Blayke Brailey made sure to expose it.

Hynes does a great job of isolating Tom Hazelton onto Tom Eisenhuth. It’s a strong and possibly scoring play at best. At worst, it’s a momentum play that moves the defensive line.

The Dragons will have had Hynes in their sights all day. He’s who they organise their line for, and they have five down the short side to cover him. But Brailey spies the opportunity with Sloan around the ruck on the line.

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Importantly, the Sharks are in shape to play wide on both sides. Francis Molo sits on Oregon Kaufusi’s lead to start with but tries to cheat and leave early, leaving Sloan one-on-one with a big middle forward.

You can see Brailey celebrating the try before Kaufusi is over the line on the wider angle.

Per Stats Insider, the Sharks have scored only 18% of their tries through the middle of the field. They typically play wider and more expansive. They picked Sloan out a few times in this one, though.

Another tap start​

We had Nicho Hynes’ try as the try of the round last week after he slipped through the Raiders line with relative ease off a tap start.

The Sharks scored from another tap start in Round 9, and it’s a beauty.

Again, it’s simple. It’s executed to perfection.

The Sharks get the look they want after Jack Williams carts the ball up at the right post. They would have schemed for Sloan to fill in at A on the short side with the Dragons defence using Hynes as an indicator for the Sharks attack.

Ben Hunt is the target in the line. A solid defender for a half, but no match for a rampaging Siosifa Talakai when isolated.

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Toby Rudolf runs a lead between the A and B defenders. Teig Wilton does the same between C and D. This is where the try is created as Ben Murdoch-Masila has to honour Hynes as a ball-runner after last week, while Raymond Faitala-Mariner also has eyes for the halfback.

With Talakai sweeping out the back as the Sharks hold three on the edge to the Dragons’ two, Hunt is on an island.

Hunt does a good job of getting above the ball in contact and goes close to holding Talakai up, but this scenario ends up as a try nine times out of ten.

Set starts aren’t mentioned enough in NRL discourse. They’re a great way to profile how a team wants to attack, and the targets in the line and angles used to get there to score this one paints an accurate picture of the Sharks with the ball.

Always ready​

The Sharks are always ready to pounce.

They start to generate momentum down the left edge through Sione Katoa and McInnes here. Katoa’s involvement is notable because of how quickly he gets back into position on the edge.

As McInnes leaves a defender on the ground, Brailey takes the cue to jump from the dummy half. There seems to be some confusion as to how the Dragons want to defend these situations, as the marker tracks back, the line moves forward, and the edge fails to get up.

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Briton Nikora has flattened up, ready to carry the ball in the direction of the third Dragons defender out of the tackle, but plays to another cue: The triangle in defence. He bounces off his left foot and finds Katoa who has made himself available shortly after a yardage carry.

Sloan scrambles and manages to shut this play down, but there is no stopping the next.

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The Dragons have nine players inside the posts down their left edge. They’re stripped out wide, and Hunt takes the Hail Mary option of jamming on Hynes. It’s their best chance of shutting it down. But with Hunt a touch late, Hynes is able to find Tall Tom Hazelton who manages to crash through the scrambling Dragons defence.

Shane Flanagan won’t be happy with that picture. Hunt managed to force Hynes into playing short, sending Hazelton at six Dragons defenders. Still, the linebreak earlier is what makes the Sharks so dangerous. They’re able to strike from anywhere at the slightest sign of weakness.

The Sharks are in fine form and look better than they did in 2023. With the Storm, Roosters, Panthers, Eels and Broncos to come over the next five rounds, we’re going to learn a lot about their 2024 premiership credentials.



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The Tough Carry: How the Sharks broke the Dragons down​

Tackle 1 is often the toughest carry of the set. It can make or break it. Here, it’s my biggest talking point from the round that was.

The Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks sit at the top of the NRL ladder after Round 9.

We’ve seen them dominate for periods of a season before. They still have to clear the hurdle of beating Top 8 teams consistently before it stops being mentioned. But as it stands, they’ve conceded the fewest points of all 17 teams and are playing with an attack averaging 27.4 points per game – the second-most in the NRL.

With Braydon Trindall in the side, they played with better balance than last season. Hynes was always the centrepiece of the attack, but Trindall took some of the pressure off and reduced the touches per game of his halfback. Has absence has led to an increase in touches for Hynes. Still, the Sharks attack continues to improve.

The Sharks played to cues especially well last season. But bad teams give you more cues. That’s why they have proven to be so successful against teams towards the bottom of the NRL ladder while struggling to get over those at the top.

We’re not yet sure if the St George Illawarra Dragons are good. They’re exceeding expectations, but we can’t say they’re a good team the Sharks toppled just yet. However, the way in which the Sharks scored their points is encouraging.

In three tries, the Sharks displayed their ability to make the most of targets in the line. They scored another ripper off a tap start and capitalised on a cue in yardage to score under the posts.

Playing to the plan​

Tyrell Sloan has improved to start the 2024 NRL season. He’s been a big part of the Dragons’ relatively strong start. But his small frame will always be a target in the line, and Blayke Brailey made sure to expose it.

Hynes does a great job of isolating Tom Hazelton onto Tom Eisenhuth. It’s a strong and possibly scoring play at best. At worst, it’s a momentum play that moves the defensive line.

The Dragons will have had Hynes in their sights all day. He’s who they organise their line for, and they have five down the short side to cover him. But Brailey spies the opportunity with Sloan around the ruck on the line.

giphy.gif

Importantly, the Sharks are in shape to play wide on both sides. Francis Molo sits on Oregon Kaufusi’s lead to start with but tries to cheat and leave early, leaving Sloan one-on-one with a big middle forward.

You can see Brailey celebrating the try before Kaufusi is over the line on the wider angle.

Per Stats Insider, the Sharks have scored only 18% of their tries through the middle of the field. They typically play wider and more expansive. They picked Sloan out a few times in this one, though.

Another tap start​

We had Nicho Hynes’ try as the try of the round last week after he slipped through the Raiders line with relative ease off a tap start.

The Sharks scored from another tap start in Round 9, and it’s a beauty.

Again, it’s simple. It’s executed to perfection.

The Sharks get the look they want after Jack Williams carts the ball up at the right post. They would have schemed for Sloan to fill in at A on the short side with the Dragons defence using Hynes as an indicator for the Sharks attack.

Ben Hunt is the target in the line. A solid defender for a half, but no match for a rampaging Siosifa Talakai when isolated.

giphy.gif

Toby Rudolf runs a lead between the A and B defenders. Teig Wilton does the same between C and D. This is where the try is created as Ben Murdoch-Masila has to honour Hynes as a ball-runner after last week, while Raymond Faitala-Mariner also has eyes for the halfback.

With Talakai sweeping out the back as the Sharks hold three on the edge to the Dragons’ two, Hunt is on an island.

Hunt does a good job of getting above the ball in contact and goes close to holding Talakai up, but this scenario ends up as a try nine times out of ten.

Set starts aren’t mentioned enough in NRL discourse. They’re a great way to profile how a team wants to attack, and the targets in the line and angles used to get there to score this one paints an accurate picture of the Sharks with the ball.

Always ready​

The Sharks are always ready to pounce.

They start to generate momentum down the left edge through Sione Katoa and McInnes here. Katoa’s involvement is notable because of how quickly he gets back into position on the edge.

As McInnes leaves a defender on the ground, Brailey takes the cue to jump from the dummy half. There seems to be some confusion as to how the Dragons want to defend these situations, as the marker tracks back, the line moves forward, and the edge fails to get up.

giphy.gif

Briton Nikora has flattened up, ready to carry the ball in the direction of the third Dragons defender out of the tackle, but plays to another cue: The triangle in defence. He bounces off his left foot and finds Katoa who has made himself available shortly after a yardage carry.

Sloan scrambles and manages to shut this play down, but there is no stopping the next.

giphy.gif

The Dragons have nine players inside the posts down their left edge. They’re stripped out wide, and Hunt takes the Hail Mary option of jamming on Hynes. It’s their best chance of shutting it down. But with Hunt a touch late, Hynes is able to find Tall Tom Hazelton who manages to crash through the scrambling Dragons defence.

Shane Flanagan won’t be happy with that picture. Hunt managed to force Hynes into playing short, sending Hazelton at six Dragons defenders. Still, the linebreak earlier is what makes the Sharks so dangerous. They’re able to strike from anywhere at the slightest sign of weakness.

The Sharks are in fine form and look better than they did in 2023. With the Storm, Roosters, Panthers, Eels and Broncos to come over the next five rounds, we’re going to learn a lot about their 2024 premiership credentials.



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That's a really good summation!
 
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Dargons' Misspelling Mishap: Costly Error Leads to Defeat Against Sharks


In a bizarre turn of events during Jack Bird's 150th game with the St George Illawarra Dragons, a seemingly innocuous mistake on his jersey became the focal point of the clash against the Cronulla Sharks. The Dragons, hoping to celebrate Bird's milestone in style, instead found themselves facing an embarrassing blunder that may have contributed to their defeat against their rivals.

The error occurred when Bird's jersey, emblazoned with the team's name, had a noticeable misspelling, reading "St George Illawarra Dargons" instead of "St George Illawarra Dragons." While such a mistake might seem trivial, it inadvertently became a symbolic distraction for the team and its fans.

Throughout the game, attention was repeatedly drawn to the misspelled jersey, with fans taking to social media to express both amusement and frustration at the oversight. Some supporters jokingly suggested that the typo had cursed the Dragons' performance, while others lamented the lack of attention to detail in such a significant match.

Despite their best efforts to maintain focus on the game at hand, the Dragons ultimately fell short against the Sharks, with the final score reflecting a 20-10 victory for Cronulla. While it would be unfair to attribute the loss solely to the misspelled jersey, it undoubtedly added an unusual layer of distraction to the proceedings.

In the post-match analysis, Dragons coach Shane Flannagan acknowledged the distraction caused by the jersey error but refused to use it as an excuse for the team's defeat. "It's an unfortunate mistake, but ultimately, our performance on the field is what determines the outcome of the game," Flannagan stated.

Meanwhile, Sharks captain Cam McInnes acknowledged the oddity of the situation but credited his team's focus on the game itself. "It's not every day you see a misspelled jersey in professional sport, but we didn't let it affect our game plan. We came here to win, and that's exactly what we did," McInnes commented after the match.

As the Dragons lick their wounds and reflect on a match overshadowed by a typographical error, attention now turns to ensuring such mistakes are avoided in the future. Whether the misspelled jersey serves as a cautionary tale or a humorous footnote in the annals of rugby league history, one thing is certain: attention to detail matters, even in the heat of competition.
 
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