2021 NRL General Discussion

[bort]

Time frame on them?
I’d think something like any two (or three) injuries before half time. Not a big fan of giving a team a fresh sub after halftime. What if two dudes bang heads with 10 mins to go can you bring in the 18th man?

 

[HaroldBishop]

It's going to get rorted, not a fan.

 

[egg]

It's going to get rorted, not a fan.

Apparently for HIA only.
Need 3 HIA to access 18th player .
Last weekend was the first time ever its happened I believe .
2 HAI and 2 other injuries doesn't qualify .
Fairly hard to rort 3 HAI's.
Still would end up with a 2 man bench at best. What coach would want that?

 

[HaroldBishop]

Apparently for HIA only.
Need 3 HIA to access 18th player .
Last weekend was the first time ever its happened I believe .
2 HAI and 2 other injuries doesn't qualify .
Fairly hard to rort 3 HAI's.
Still would end up with a 2 man bench at best. What coach would want that?

Don't know why it's needed if it pretty much never happens.

Players will learn to rort it, you watch.

 

[Tiger Shark]

Don't know why it's needed if it pretty much never happens.

Players will learn to rort it, you watch.

Just because there’s potential to rort it doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing. Would have been great on Saturday for us and the Raiders (were they eligible?)

Besides how can you think losing 3 players to get one fresh player is rortable? You’re down 2 players at the end of it.

 

[vicsharkfan]

Players will pull a hammy then pretend they’re concussed... given the current state of affairs I assume it will no doubt come in. But maybe if you bring on the 18th the already concussed players must sit out at least a week (that might stop it being abused). Really not sure but one thing for certain teams will abuse it for gain, completely different sport I know but seriously women’s tennis and the injury time out is a absolute joke, is pretty much always used by the person losing to try stop reset and change momentum.

 

[Flanno]

Don't know why it's needed if it pretty much never happens.

Players will learn to rort it, you watch.

If it pretty much never happens, then what are you worried about? It’s a sensible idea, we sure could’ve used it the other night. Who is going to want to have 3 players fail HIA?

 

[HaroldBishop]

Just because there’s potential to rort it doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing. Would have been great on Saturday for us and the Raiders (were they eligible?)

Besides how can you think losing 3 players to get one fresh player is rortable? You’re down 2 players at the end of it.

Well of course a team won't intentionally fake 3, what a silly thing to suggest. Guarantee you if they lose 2 they'll think about feigning another to get a fresh player on.

If it pretty much never happens, then what are you worried about? It’s a sensible idea, we sure could’ve used it the other night. Who is going to want to have 3 players fail HIA?

See above, will get rorted if a team loses 2.

It's a tough sport, it's fine the way it is.

If it starts to happen more frequently then I dare say the issue is the faster game more than anything.

 

[Proud Shark]

In a situation for player welfare, the 'rorted' third probably helps to manage injuries. Is that the biggest issue?

 

[HaroldBishop]

In a situation for player welfare, the 'rorted' third probably helps to manage injuries. Is that the biggest issue?

If there are more HIAs happening then that's the serious issue, allowing an extra replacement doesn't change that.

They'll need to monitor this very closely. Hope they haven't gone too hard with speeding the game up.

 

[Flanno]

If the 18th player was so valuable that teams are willing to lose 3 players to HIA to bring them on, they would be getting picked in the first place

 

[Blair]

I am with HB. Seems like a massive kneejerk reaction (as always) by the NRL. If it never happens then why create a new rule.

The boys were gallant on the weekend - an 18th man wouldn't have helped that much.

 

[Tiger Shark]

If the 18th player was so valuable that teams are willing to lose 3 players to HIA to bring them on, they would be getting picked in the first place

Exactly

 

[Tiger Shark]

I am with HB. Seems like a massive kneejerk reaction (as always) by the NRL. If it never happens then why create a new rule.

The boys were gallant on the weekend - an 18th man wouldn't have helped that much.

What do you mean never happens, it just happened to us.

And yeah an extra middle forward or centre would have greatly helped us

 

[BurgoShark]

What do you mean never happens, it just happened to us.

And yeah an extra middle forward or centre would have greatly helped us

Yep. One extra body with 4 extra interchanges available would have made a difference for sure.

It wouldn’t have mattered who it was. Even having Nene would have meant Williams goes to the middle and all of Toby, Woods, Uele can get a short break in the second half. That would have made a big difference in that final 10.

 

[slide rule]

I’d like to see this arise more often before changing a rule.

Our situation put us in a rough spot but to a degree that’s just life. **** happens.

 

[Tiger Shark]

I’d like to see this arise more often before changing a rule.

Our situation put us in a rough spot but to a degree that’s just life. **** happens.

We’ll probably find teams and players more willing to succumb to HIA when they should be rather than trying to hide it or pretend it’s something else if they know it’s not going to jeopardise the team too much. In the long term it could prove to be more beneficial to players health.

I also don’t get this argument against. It’s in every one’s interest to have an 18th man. None of this **** happens rubbish.

 

[bort]

Three HIAs is so unlikely. Should be any three (game ending) injuries before halftime.

While it will also be uncommon finding that third or even second and third HIA late to add a fresh player is a concern for abuse.

 

[snowman]

there needs to be an 18th an 19th man

one can come on in foul play circumstances - if a player cops a swinging arm and is done for the game

the other for the extreme circumstances that happened on the weekend

i dont get why nit is so hard, nene and fifita warmed up with us, they could easily be on the bench

 

[stormshark]

I’d like to see this arise more often before changing a rule.

Our situation put us in a rough spot but to a degree that’s just life. **** happens.

Agree, ours was genuine and rare, circumstances in the future will no doubt be to bend (new)rules.