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I said it in the match thread on the weekend but I honestly think Trindall & Hynes should swap jumpers. We need a halfback that is a playmaker and as much.as I love Nicho it ain't who he is.

Hynes to 6, Trindall to 7.
Hynes was success at Melbourne because he ran the ball.

Not because he was a game manager.

I agree. Hynes to 6 and Tricky to 7.
 

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Changing the numbers on their backs ain't changing their personalities.
 

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Hynes was success at Melbourne because he ran the ball.

Not because he was a game manager.

I agree. Hynes to 6 and Tricky to 7.
Hynes is a terrible game manager

I wonder how long it’ll be before Fitz realises he’s best to just let Hynes worry about running the ball and linking plays

Perfect example is Cody Walkers sht game on the weekend when he was forced to play more of a game manager role next to a rookie
 

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How many times do people need to be told? Swapping jumper numbers makes no difference.
Changing the numbers on their backs ain't changing their personalities.
Exactly

If we had a Ben Hunt or something maybe different story.

I'm yet to be convinced Trindall is the elite game manager we keep being told by some fans he is, based seemingly just on the fact he mostly wore 7 in juniors and Cup... Tracey has played 7 at those levels.

We know Hynes is willing to play second fiddle where it benefits, like (again) Ben Hunt playing 9 at rep level. That doesn't make Trindall the right man to do it for. And I have no evidence he is. And seems like the coach doesn't think he is.

Need to accept Hynes is our 7 for the foreseeable future and that he will play more like a Hughes than a Cleary.
 

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What do the errors say about Nicho not being a good game manager?

- Threw a poor pass to Trindall. Sharks could have retained possession but Trindall chose to kick instead of diving on it.
- First kick ootf probably should have been a penalty
- Second kick ootf he took a shot at a 40/20 and got it wrong. Good decision. Poor execution.
- Not diving on the loose ball was piss poor, but it says nothing about his game management skills.
- Made a couple of errors late when down by 20+ points. A half making error chasing points last in games is pretty common

He was poor - but none of this says anything about his game management skills.... except that he could have stayed down and milked a penalty.

If you looked at Nicho's game without the errors he was fine. Put on some early shifts and found space, ran the ball through the ruck a few times, kicked well other than the ootf ones, put Wilton through half a hole, made a zillion tackles etc.
 

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What do the errors say about Nicho not being a good game manager?

- Threw a poor pass to Trindall. Sharks could have retained possession but Trindall chose to kick instead of diving on it.
- First kick ootf probably should have been a penalty
- Second kick ootf he took a shot at a 40/20 and got it wrong. Good decision. Poor execution.
- Not diving on the loose ball was piss poor, but it says nothing about his game management skills.
- Made a couple of errors late when down by 20+ points. A half making error chasing points last in games is pretty common

He was poor - but none of this says anything about his game management skills.... except that he could have stayed down and milked a penalty.

If you looked at Nicho's game without the errors he was fine. Put on some early shifts and found space, ran the ball through the ruck a few times, kicked well other than the ootf ones, put Wilton through half a hole, made a zillion tackles etc.
Not counting the short pass to Jesse? I'm putting that on Nicho.
 

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What do the errors say about Nicho not being a good game manager?

- Threw a poor pass to Trindall. Sharks could have retained possession but Trindall chose to kick instead of diving on it.
- First kick ootf probably should have been a penalty
- Second kick ootf he took a shot at a 40/20 and got it wrong. Good decision. Poor execution.
- Not diving on the loose ball was piss poor, but it says nothing about his game management skills.
- Made a couple of errors late when down by 20+ points. A half making error chasing points last in games is pretty common

He was poor - but none of this says anything about his game management skills.... except that he could have stayed down and milked a penalty.

If you looked at Nicho's game without the errors he was fine. Put on some early shifts and found space, ran the ball through the ruck a few times, kicked well other than the ootf ones, put Wilton through half a hole, made a zillion tackles etc.
Not having a go but one commentor called Trindalls OOTF last week 'a bees dick away'
Now they might also think this one was a fair attempt, as I said I can't remember who said it it so not implying they liked that one but had a go at this one. But I thought the two were pretty comparable - idea was fine execution was quite bad IMO

Not counting the short pass to Jesse? I'm putting that on Nicho.
I'm happy to blame both - not the smarted pass I've seen but very catchable by someone awake to it.
If a prop popped it fair enough, weren't expecting it. If you're running next to our halfback why would you not think you might get the ball at some stage. Still, I do also think Nicho shouldn't have thrown it.
 

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Not counting the short pass to Jesse? I'm putting that on Nicho.
Yeah - I count this against both of them too. Left that one off by accident because it came before the Hazelton try and my list started after that. Not really part of the rot though. Could happily forgive that one in isolation.

In any case not a game management issue.
 
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Cant game manage when we are getting mauled. All off season then two wins and we are talking mass changes, excluding those which are going to be forced after our first loss. Agree really sub standard performance by plenty but let’s see the response. Shows you no easy game in this comp no matter who wants to tell you there are.
 

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I think it can be agreed upon that Nicho was hugely crap. Some are sayig he was sick, still learning, out of position etc. I think a lot of these can be put to bed by the sheer fact he has had a few games like this. And I also think it’s fair to place a huge chunk of responsibility with him.

In terms of swapping numbers, is it not the 5/8 that gets the ball as second receiver generally? And not first. Maybe there is benefit to the team moving him further out. I don’t know.
 

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I think it can be agreed upon that Nicho was hugely crap. Some are sayig he was sick, still learning, out of position etc. I think a lot of these can be put to bed by the sheer fact he has had a few games like this. And I also think it’s fair to place a huge chunk of responsibility with him.

In terms of swapping numbers, is it not the 5/8 that gets the ball as second receiver generally? And not first. Maybe there is benefit to the team moving him further out. I don’t know.

He has played second receiver multiple times throughout games since the moment we signed him.
 

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He has played second receiver multiple times throughout games since the moment we signed him.
Yep either second receiver or just one of them gets the ball.
It’s not a Hynes passes to Trindall issue
 

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And seven missed tacklea
Also not a game management issue.

I'm not defending his crap performance. I just fail to see how dropped balls, kicks ootf and missed tackles equate to poor game management.
 

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Also not a game management issue.

I'm not defending his crap performance. I just fail to see how dropped balls, kicks ootf and missed tackles equate to poor game management.

Should of told fitz to put Kaufusi back on earlier, inexcusable
 

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Hynes is a terrible game manager

I wonder how long it’ll be before Fitz realises he’s best to just let Hynes worry about running the ball and linking plays

Perfect example is Cody Walkers sht game on the weekend when he was forced to play more of a game manager role next to a rookie
in all fairness cody has been **** for a fair while now
 

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I actually thought Nichos game management was pretty good the first two weeks. Kept kicking to the corners and managed to wrestle back momentum against Warriors.

He had a poor game. He's not the first NRL player to have a shocker (and btw it will happen again).

I think everyone needs to chill out a bit re him and Trindall. Let them learn from this and move on.

If we get half way through the season and we are not improving then assess it then.
 
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