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Coach smoach... It doesn't matter.

Wait until *** and co get the ass then watch the ****e hit the fan
 

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This decision is in the best interests of the various personalities concerned but it is not in the best interests of the fans. Why? Because it gives us no chance of winning this year and thus very little chance of ever winning with our current, ageing team. Before we know it we'll be rebuilding again.

Peter Sharpe isn't this club or any others choice to coach first grade. If Flanno resigned tomorrow, would Sharpe get the job? No. Why? Because it wouldn't give the team the best chance of winning the comp. So by putting him in now, they're basically accepting that victory comes 2nd. Harsh but fair. It would be different if our assistant was an up and coming young coach ready to have a crack, like Flanno 3 years ago. But he isn't.

This is why we've never won a comp. because time and again we don't make the most professional decision.

The players want Sharpe probably. Since when do they pick the coach?
Sixteen jobs as an NRL coach. 16! How many people vying for those positions? I've got absolutely no axe to grind with Sharpe other than the Northern Eagles were ****. Give a young former play maker a go. Surely Sharpe is not in the top 16 possible coaches in the NRL.
 

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Too many generalisations and assumptions
Wow slide rule, that's the lamest response I've heard since Ronald Reagan's "I don't recall".

If Flanno resigned tomorrow would Sharpe get the job?
 

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Don't know, he might. That depends on a lot of things.
You're just defending your previous statement there I think. There is not a chance in hell he would be given the job if we needed a new full time first grade coach and I challenge anyone on this forum to state otherwise. No offence to the guy, but recruitment would go down the toilet and we'd be publicly accepting that the best we'll ever do is be competitive.
 

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You're just defending your previous statement there I think. There is not a chance in hell he would be given the job if we needed a new full time first grade coach and I challenge anyone on this forum to state otherwise. No offence to the guy, but recruitment would go down the toilet and we'd be publicly accepting that the best we'll ever do is be competitive.
It doesn't matter anyway at this stage because the club have made it clear that they want to retain Flanagan long term. If the players at the club have a good rapport and respect for him, why would recruitment be a problem? If the players respect him, it's probably because he's got something to offer.

Anyway, I don't actually know, because I've never been coached by him or by any of the other people that may be suitable for the job.

All scenarios carry a fair amount of risk. But this one is probably the easiest to implement and the cheapest with the lowest risk.

He will probably take less time to find his feet than to bring in someone new. By the time the new guy comes in and gets to know the players, staff, programs, facilities, relationships etc etc it will be time to move on for Flanno. Sharp doesn't have to worry about those things. He knows the place and the players already and can basically keep the overall picture rolling. He'll still be free to implement some of his own ideas and exercise his own judgement where necessary.
 

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As I posted in the rumour thread, what I heard seems to suggest that Flanno is the long term vision of the current board, and that he will have input into the training one way or another. Could be wrong, but it seems to fit the actions of the board recently.
 

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They say a week is a long time in Rugby League, so what does that make 9 months?

You DO NOT employ a Caretaker Coach in the NRL.
 

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They say a week is a long time in Rugby League, so what does that make 9 months?

You DO NOT employ a Caretaker Coach in the NRL.
It is madness, especially considering ASADA will likely give him a life ban. We have about a two year window open at the moment to win a premiership. It sounds like we are going to mess around when we should be moving onwards and upwards. How long has it been since we've had this kind of quality in a squad? I don't want to see it squandered.
 

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we have a 5 year window... its name is Todd Carney
I'm a massive Carney fan, but Todd's time should be in the next two to three years. Five years is a long time, Gallen, Lewis and Gordon will all be gone by then as well. On the flip side we might be even better in five years of course. This squad's time is now though (although as I've said a million times on here as has pretty much everybody, we still need a star centre)
 

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I'm a massive Carney fan, but Todd's time should be in the next two to three years. Five years is a long time, Gallen, Lewis and Gordon will all be gone by then as well. On the flip side we might be even better in five years of course. This squad's time is now though (although as I've said a million times on here as has pretty much everybody, we still need a star centre)
Agree with you 100%.
 

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Stand-in Cronulla coach Peter Sharp says the players are devastated at the prospect of being without Shane Flanagan next year but will again give give a good account of themselves in 2014.

Sharp said it felt like ‘‘deja vu’’ after he was again asked to fill the breach, this time after Flanagan was provisionally suspended by the NRL for a year. The Sharks have indicated they will fight the ban and mount a defence before the January 16 deadline.

A former head coach of the Northern Eagles and the Manly Sea Eagles from 1999 to 2003, Sharp described the latest setback as a ‘‘major disaster’’. However, he marvelled at the resilience of a team that made the finals despite having the ASADA cloud over their heads all year.

‘‘Shane is a terrific coach and terrific bloke and if we can keep it together for as long as he is away, that would be lovely,’’ Sharp said.

‘‘It’s a hell of a year and it’s going to keep going on. Everybody has an enormous amount of respect for Shane so it was a big shock to them. To their credit, with me and James Shepherd moving in, it’s minimal disruption.

‘‘They are getting on with business as footy players usually do. Everyone in the organisation wants Shane Flanagan back coaching the Sharks.

‘‘It’s been tough on him as you can well imagine. He’s been through the whole gamut of emotions. At the end of the day Shane is a very good person and it’s very tough on everyone in this club. We’ll battle on and do OK.’’

Sharp said Flanagan’s provisional suspension, coupled with the ongoing ASADA probe, was taking a heavy toll on the squad. ‘‘They are a marvel, they’re a very tough team,’’ he said. ‘‘I do stress that every hiccup that takes place like the one with Shane – although that’s not a hiccup but a major disaster – has an effect on the boys with the cloud hanging over their head for those here in ’11.

‘‘That’s the concern for me, their state of mental health, that’s a fairly big burden to carry. We’ve been going 12 months now and we are no closer to resolution.

‘‘The whole [ASADA] process has been disappointing for me from start to finish and we’re not finished yet. It’s been flawed, for mine. It’s been more than 300 days and I’m wondering what evidence they have now they didn’t have three months ago.

‘‘The players here are looking for some finality to it all. It’s hard, there are blokes playing here next year who couldn’t get other clubs because this thing is hanging over their heads. They are playing here on minimal wages and that sort of stuff, but people don’t know about that, do they?

‘‘I feel for them. I’ve got two boys and I wouldn’t want them to be going through what they’re going through.’’

The former Parramatta, Melbourne and Newcastle assistant said he had no ambition to again become a career head coach.

‘‘Of course, every coach wants to do well and I’m no exception,’’ he said. ‘‘But it is very much Shane’s team and we’ve got our structures and processes in place which we’ll be continuing on with.

‘‘I’m pretty comfortable with where I’m at, I’m happy to fill the breach for Shane. I haven’t any real ambitions to be an NRL coach.’’ Sharp urged everyone in the Shire to rally behind their side. ‘‘We’ll do the best we can,’’ he said. ‘‘They are a talented and tough bunch of players and they will certainly do the best they can, I know that. I hold a lot of hope for the team.

‘‘They are a marvellous bunch, they’ve been thrown plenty of curve balls over the last 12 months and they’ve handled it pretty good.’’

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...gh-until-flanagan-returns-20131220-2zqfz.html
 

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Whilst it has been flawed the club and players need to understand that any investigative authority is not going to reveal all their evidence on a case until the time is right. They are also not going to get to a point where they say to a suspect, 'ok case closed, no more investigations to be conducted, you're all free'.

If ASADA can't prove what was in the syringe sufficient to issue infraction, then the case if anything will be just suspended but ready to be re-opened and continued at any point until the statute of limitations passes, which I believe is maybe 8 years in these matters.
 

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I really like sharpy. One of my fondest memories was having a beer with the guy and just talking footy for an hour. He is so honest and doesnt bull**** at all but most of all he knows his ****. I think well be top 4 in 14 regardless of coach situ.
 

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Anybody that picks players less then 30 would do me. We have put up with "professional" for a long time in key positions rather than "exciting". Barry Russell and Jonathan Docking and John O'Connor were in early 20's when given a chance, so was ET and Sludge. They wouldn't get a run with Flanno.
 
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