Round 14 2013 NRL: Cronulla Sutherland Sharks V Parramatta Eels, Sharks Stadium, Saturday 15th June, 7:30pm

sharkyboy · Jun 11, 2013

How sad is it when your entire fan base knows what the team needs besides the one ****wit who makes the decisions.

Bundy Shark · Jun 11, 2013

If we beat the good teams we do it on the back of a gritty arm wrestle style of game plan which in a way is a bonus cause that style can win you finals etc, only problem is if we fall behind we tend to dig ourselves further into a hole cause a free flowing style doesn't come natural to us. We rarely towel teams up & when we do its only the crappy teams (& that wall papers overs our defeciencies) those tries we tend to score aren't off set plays but ad lib style.

Wilson · Jun 11, 2013

teflon77 said:
For me it stands out more when we play the elite teams. When we throw to the backline we never have enough decoys, or are deep enough and never create an extra man and it just grinds to a halt with our wingers having the ball half a metre in and with no where to go. Melbourne scored at will when they went wide and they immediately fall into their structures with everyone knowing their role. These things are coachable.

The South's game may have been different on a dry track and with an even penalty count because they either scored or were threatening every time they were in our twenty or when they shifted the ball. Flano as a coach is very limited on many levels.

Honestly, this'll sound like an attack but a lot of it comes down to Pomeroy. He's just got no depth about his play. You can't construct any strong attacking raids down his side because he's just so flat. Beau Ryan also has to play flat as a result of this.

We've looked better with Wright because he plays with depth, and he's now starting to build a good combination with our halves. The only time we actually looked dangerous in the game against Melbourne was down his edge.

hamsy44 · Jun 11, 2013

teflon77 said:
For me it stands out more when we play the elite teams. When we throw to the backline we never have enough decoys, or are deep enough and never create an extra man and it just grinds to a halt with our wingers having the ball half a metre in and with no where to go. Melbourne scored at will when they went wide and they immediately fall into their structures with everyone knowing their role. These things are coachable.

The South's game may have been different on a dry track and with an even penalty count because they either scored or were threatening every time they were in our twenty or when they shifted the ball. Flano as a coach is very limited on many levels.

Are you willing for him to improve on his deficiencies or you want him replaced. If you want him replaced by who?

teflon77 · Jun 11, 2013

hamsy44 said:
Are you willing for him to improve on his deficiencies or you want him replaced. If you want him replaced by who?

I honestly don't think he can improve. He just doesn't get attacking football. Nor can he be trusted to nurture and improve talented youngsters. Look no further than the robson re-signing and the heighington contract. Who would you rather over the next two years, an aging heighno or bakuya entering his prime?

For all the kudos he gets for recruitment there is a significant downside as well.

BlackWhiteBlue · Jun 11, 2013

teflon77 said:
I honestly don't think he can improve. He just doesn't get attacking football. Nor can he be trusted to nurture and improve talented youngsters. Look no further than the robson re-signing and the heighington contract. Who would you rather over the next two years, an aging heighno or bakuya entering his prime?

For all the kudos he gets for recruitment there is a significant downside as well.

Cant run out with an origin level team every week mate. Thats why there is a salary cap. Unfortunately thats what happens. The big contract of Todd Carney is going to play havoc on who we can sign. Tigers wanted to sign Blair to big money, they got rid of their sometimes bench player Fifita to free up space. 18 months later, he plays origin. Its going to happen more often than not. Now that the star halfback/ 5/8 is pretty much the team quarter back in terms of salary, there is going to be some lambs sacrificed to get the star signing.

As for Peachey, brilliant player, but way to small to be in our pack, has to be a utility.

hamsy44 · Jun 11, 2013

teflon77 said:
I honestly don't think he can improve. He just doesn't get attacking football. Nor can he be trusted to nurture and improve talented youngsters. Look no further than the robson re-signing and the heighington contract. Who would you rather over the next two years, an aging heighno or bakuya entering his prime?

For all the kudos he gets for recruitment there is a significant downside as well.

But who is out there that is better? Might be a case of better the devil you know.

teflon77 · Jun 11, 2013

BlackWhiteBlue said:
Cant run out with an origin level team every week mate. Thats why there is a salary cap. Unfortunately thats what happens. The big contract of Todd Carney is going to play havoc on who we can sign. Tigers wanted to sign Blair to big money, they got rid of their sometimes bench player Fifita to free up space. 18 months later, he plays origin. Its going to happen more often than not. Now that the star halfback/ 5/8 is pretty much the team quarter back in terms of salary, there is going to be some lambs sacrificed to get the star signing.

As for Peachey, brilliant player, but way to small to be in our pack, has to be a utility.

That's why it is so important to develop young, elite talent. We have the perfect number of veterans to introduce young players but it just isnt happening. Flano cant see the forest for the trees.

teflon77 · Jun 11, 2013

hamsy44 said:
But who is out there that is better? Might be a case of better the devil you know.

Not when the devil will never win you a premiership and actually thinks robson is a first grader. Trial and error. I think nathan brown would be a good fit.

sharks4ever · Jun 11, 2013

teflon77 said:
Not when the devil will never win you a premiership and actually thinks robson is a first grader. Trial and error. I think nathan brown would be a good fit.

You mean a coach who had a side nearly full of rep players and still couldn't win the big one, if you want a coach that know how to bring in the young players id bring in sheens

teflon77 · Jun 11, 2013

sharks4ever said:
You mean a coach who had a side nearly full of rep players and still couldn't win the big one, if you want a coach that know how to bring in the young players id bring in sheens

Yeah, the same coach that's come along way since then. Isnt sheens the coach that thought adam blair was a better investment than fifita and gibbs?

sharks4ever · Jun 11, 2013

teflon77 said:
Yeah, the same coach that's come along way since then. Isnt sheens the coach that thought adam blair was a better investment than fifita and gibbs?

I'm talking about a coach developing the young talent like you said

snowman · Jun 11, 2013

sharks4ever said:
I'm talking about a coach developing the young talent like you said

sheens let a young talent go.

if i had to take a coach, i would take brad arthur

sharks4ever · Jun 11, 2013

snowman said:
sheens let a young talent go.

if i had to take a coach, i would take brad arthur

Why that may be true he did bring them through though

stormshark · Jun 11, 2013

He's "Devilled " either way i guess, me for one want the risk of an earlier premiership if it means stacked with older guys, but yeah agree the obvious downside is, if we don't get there in the next two years and haven't blooded enough, down the ladder we go.The coach of course being results driven may go the former way rather than say a three year plan with more new(younger) blood.

sharks2010 · Jun 11, 2013

Is our photocopier broken? Thought our team would of been named by now

hamsy44 · Jun 11, 2013

sharks2010 said:
Is our photocopier broken? Thought our team would of been named by now

Gibbs swapped Flanno's keys around he can't find the Ctrl C and V keys hahaha

Catapultluch · Jun 11, 2013

I wonder if that dog “Elkin” will be at Sharks Stadium with his security. Sure to get a rousing reception from the Sharkies faithful.

sharkboy18 · Jun 11, 2013

NSW Cup Sharks v Wentworthville
Round 14 - Sharks Stadium
Saturday, June 15 - kickoff 3.00pm
1 Stewart Mills
2 Young Tonumaipea
3 Nathan Stapleton
4 Kirisome Auva’a
5 Daniel Moroko
6 Penani Manumalealii
7 Brett Finch
8 Bryce Gibbs
9 Slade Griffin
10 Siosaia Vave
11 Junior Roqica
12 Tupou Sopoaga
13 Dane Weston
INTERCHANGE
14 Mark Taufua
15 Pat Politoni
16 Tony Gigot
17 Rodney Coates
18 Tim Robinson

Theres the NSW cup teamlist, Gibbs is in at 8 and no Peach...

sharks4ever · Jun 11, 2013

Looks like Pom is playing hasn't been named in the NSW cup side

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