NRL SHARKS FOREVER SUPERCOACH

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From last nights game I had Cobbo and Cam Murray in my side. Only an average 56 points from Murray but Cobbo came in with 85!

By the way, can someone tell me what BE stands for in each individual players record on the team sheet? For example Cobbo has BE: 81 on his.
Break Even

I think it is what they would have to score next week to maintain the same average.

Someone else will probably explain it better.
 

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Break Even

I think it is what they would have to score next week to maintain the same average.

Someone else will probably explain it better.
That’s the one
Beat it for the week their price will go up, fail to and they lose money

BE is based on their price and their three week rolling average

BE and a lot of other stats will go away when the ‘free trial’ of SuperCoach plus goes away.
Either pay to keep it or just google ‘NRL SuperCoach BE’ and there’s a free website, just usually takes the guy most of Monday before he gets it updated
 
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Break Even

I think it is what they would have to score next week to maintain the same average.

Someone else will probably explain it better.
That’s the one
Beat it for the week their price will go up, fail to and they lose money

BE is based on their price and their three week rolling average

BE and a lot of other stats will go away when the ‘free trial’ of SuperCoach plus goes away.
Either pay to keep it or just google ‘NRL SuperCoach BE’ and there’s a free website, just usually takes the guy most of Monday before he gets it updated
Thanks guys!
 

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That’s the one
Beat it for the week their price will go up, fail to and they lose money

BE is based on their price and their three week rolling average

BE and a lot of other stats will go away when the ‘free trial’ of SuperCoach plus goes away.
Either pay to keep it or just google ‘NRL SuperCoach BE’ and there’s a free website, just usually takes the guy most of Monday before he gets it updated
Is Sc Plus a separate thing people pay for, or included in a DT subscription?
 

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Is Sc Plus a separate thing people pay for, or included in a DT subscription?

Think included with subscription or can be paid separate, but not certain. I’ve never paid for it.

Main thing of interest to me which you can’t get free off other site is captain % for a given week.

Speaking of… who is straight backing Nicho in?
 

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The bloke who runs SC is in my other league. If you've got any suggestions for the app let me know, I've fed stuff through to him before and he appreciated it.

There's a new SC Plus feature now that lets you see the player % owned just for your leagues. Pretty cool to be able to see the PODs for the teams you'll be playing against.
 

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Think included with subscription or can be paid separate, but not certain. I’ve never paid for it.

Main thing of interest to me which you can’t get free off other site is captain % for a given week.

Speaking of… who is straight backing Nicho in?

Well I'm not going Ponga again
 
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Think included with subscription or can be paid separate, but not certain. I’ve never paid for it.

Main thing of interest to me which you can’t get free off other site is captain % for a given week.

Speaking of… who is straight backing Nicho in?
I'm backing Nicho straight in as I didn't have anyone to get a 0 for the loop other than Iro who gets locked the same game.
 
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Would you mind explaining what this means Proud?
Sure. It referes to your vice captain/captain.

If your captain ends up ruled out and gets a 0, your vice will get doubled instead. You can manipulate this by picking a VC that plays before your Captain. If the VC scores big, you can put the C on a player who you know isn't playing/will score 0. This means that your VC will get doubled and you'll get the lowest score off your bench (auto emergency aka AE) in place of your C. This is referred to as the VC Loophole, or the Loop for short.

In this situation, I don't have any players from the titans on the bye, nor do I have any other injured/non scoring players other than Iro. So if I put the VC on Nicho, the only way I could make it work is by using a trade to get another 0 in, which isn't worth doing.

Generally, the accepted score to perform the loop is 120+. This is usually high enough to justify bringing in what is often a low 20 or so score from your bench as the AE. Any lower, and it starts to not be as worth doing. This can change if all your non playing players are scoring well though.

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Here's a random example I found on FB. The team on the right had Walsh as VC score 116. So he put the C on a non player and therefore got Doorey as an AE. This is why you always see people putting their VC as someone who plays in a game before their C.
 

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Finally managed to get my NRL Fantasy draft done last night with my son and his mates. Couldn't get our **** together so starting in round 3.

Funny thing is that because players have an average for the year already the draft listed them by the average for that one game rather than last year. Everyone else in my draft picked from the top of the list down rather than picking the good fantasy players from 2023 :ROFLMAO:

I scooped up Ponga, Drinky, AFB, Tino, Carrigan, Walsh, Isaako, Marzhew and David Fifita all after 50+ players were already taken 🤘
 
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Finally managed to get my NRL Fantasy draft done last night with my son and his mates. Couldn't get our **** together so starting in round 3.

Funny thing is that because players have an average for the year already the draft listed them by the average for that one game rather than last year. Everyone else in my draft picked from the top of the list down rather than picking the good fantasy players :ROFLMAO:

I scooped up Ponga, Drinky, AFB, Tino, Carrigan, Walsh, Isaako, Marzhew and David Fifita all after 50+ players were already taken 🤘
Looks like you're in for some classic 'I'm still better than you' father son domination. Enjoy!
 

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Looks like you're in for some classic 'I'm still better than you' father son domination. Enjoy!
Haha gotta get some payback.

He beat me in the GF last year though some dodginess. Had his mate who finished last trade him all his best players the day before. Scumbags!
 

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Sure. It referes to your vice captain/captain.

If your captain ends up ruled out and gets a 0, your vice will get doubled instead. You can manipulate this by picking a VC that plays before your Captain. If the VC scores big, you can put the C on a player who you know isn't playing/will score 0. This means that your VC will get doubled and you'll get the lowest score off your bench (auto emergency aka AE) in place of your C. This is referred to as the VC Loophole, or the Loop for short.

In this situation, I don't have any players from the titans on the bye, nor do I have any other injured/non scoring players other than Iro. So if I put the VC on Nicho, the only way I could make it work is by using a trade to get another 0 in, which isn't worth doing.

Generally, the accepted score to perform the loop is 120+. This is usually high enough to justify bringing in what is often a low 20 or so score from your bench as the AE. Any lower, and it starts to not be as worth doing. This can change if all your non playing players are scoring well though.

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Here's a random example I found on FB. The team on the right had Walsh as VC score 116. So he put the C on a non player and therefore got Doorey as an AE. This is why you always see people putting their VC as someone who plays in a game before their C.
All explained well from perspective of someone who knows what’s going on
For others if you’re not following you can find videos walking you through it

There are also calculators on SC Playbook and on the BE website I mentioned earlier you can use to calculate how beneficial a loop is for you (however bear in mind the calc relies on you guessing most of the numbers as by the time you know them it is too late to loop)

Ie if you loop a score of 120 but estimate
  • Previously captained player would score 80
  • Dropped player would score 40
  • AE would score 20
You’re 20 points better off overall. But as you tweak those numbers it gets better or worse so a lot of guesswork involved
Hence why anything less than 120 would rarely be worth it
 
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Sure. It referes to your vice captain/captain.

If your captain ends up ruled out and gets a 0, your vice will get doubled instead. You can manipulate this by picking a VC that plays before your Captain. If the VC scores big, you can put the C on a player who you know isn't playing/will score 0. This means that your VC will get doubled and you'll get the lowest score off your bench (auto emergency aka AE) in place of your C. This is referred to as the VC Loophole, or the Loop for short.

In this situation, I don't have any players from the titans on the bye, nor do I have any other injured/non scoring players other than Iro. So if I put the VC on Nicho, the only way I could make it work is by using a trade to get another 0 in, which isn't worth doing.

Generally, the accepted score to perform the loop is 120+. This is usually high enough to justify bringing in what is often a low 20 or so score from your bench as the AE. Any lower, and it starts to not be as worth doing. This can change if all your non playing players are scoring well though.

View attachment 30602

Here's a random example I found on FB. The team on the right had Walsh as VC score 116. So he put the C on a non player and therefore got Doorey as an AE. This is why you always see people putting their VC as someone who plays in a game before their C.

Ah, awesome! Thanks mate, I was wondering how the AE thing worked as well since I'd seen it on another team but didn't know if it was something I was supposed set up myself.

Realistically I could try this out with Nicho since I have V Fifita in squad.

Appreciate you breaking it all down there for me mate ✊️
 

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Finally managed to get my NRL Fantasy draft done last night with my son and his mates. Couldn't get our **** together so starting in round 3.

Funny thing is that because players have an average for the year already the draft listed them by the average for that one game rather than last year. Everyone else in my draft picked from the top of the list down rather than picking the good fantasy players from 2023 :ROFLMAO:

I scooped up Ponga, Drinky, AFB, Tino, Carrigan, Walsh, Isaako, Marzhew and David Fifita all after 50+ players were already taken 🤘
Crushing defeat... it's the best teacher :)
 

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I couldn’t decide between Ponga and Turbo so I said **** it and went straight Hynes.
Cmon Nicho don’t let me down!
 

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Nicho padding late

Should be good for around 80-90 once they review I reckon. Been in a lot

(Hoping once unicorns settle he’s above Cleary!)
 
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Nicho padding late

Should be good for around 80-90 once they review I reckon. Been in a lot

(Hoping once unicorns settle he’s above Cleary!)

I'm going to assume unicorns are duals?
 
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