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Gumby said:
Kaufusi is not a player we need and should be moved on. If he doesn’t want to go stiff ****, make him want to go. He should be the first player we offer as part of a deal for AFB. Throw in a signed Matt Moylan jersey also to add some cream to the deal.
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Kaufusi has a mutual option with us mate, if he doesn't want to go he just doesn't take up the option and signs wherever he wants.
 
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Gumby said:
Kaufusi is not a player we need and should be moved on. If he doesn’t want to go stiff ****, make him want to go. He should be the first player we offer as part of a deal for AFB. Throw in a signed Matt Moylan jersey also to add some cream to the deal.
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Kaufusi’s a Fitz project signing. No chance he goes. Also I doubt the Warriors would want him as a replacement for AFB, we need to be a bit more realistic here.
 
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Gumby said:
Kaufusi is not a player we need and should be moved on. If he doesn’t want to go stiff ****, make him want to go. He should be the first player we offer as part of a deal for AFB. Throw in a signed Matt Moylan jersey also to add some cream to the deal.
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After seeing a season with plenty of Graham, Trindall, Moylan or Mr Nobody as the 4th benchie I reckon every Sharks middle is a player they need.

They could use another good one of course, but I'd prefer they add rather than swap one.

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Kaufusi has a mutual option with us mate, if he doesn't want to go he just doesn't take up the option and signs wherever he wants.
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I think he means now.
 
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bort said:
In a roundabout kind of way.
Dev players can play later in season
If you had someone who was unlikely to be used to start season (maybe injury, or origin cover) you could put them in dev (assuming they are paid little enough).
Then by the time you’d want to use them in NRL they are eligible to play as a dev player anyway.
Or injured player out for full season moves to dev so you can still run a full 30.

Fairly niche and pretty minimal advantage

Last season maybe depending on wage we could have moved Dykes to Dev when he did his ACL and promoted someone else to top 30, but not really anyone we would have used anyway
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Ah that was it. Not applicable to Hiroti. I'm surprised hes not top 30 somewhere. He plays well enough.
 
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According to one of the podcasts I listened to on the way to work The Sharks are better off but not as simplistically as saying we have $500k CT money. Some of that has been used for upgrades already, there'll be Billy Bs minimum wage deal and anything they give to Gabreal will come out as well. It was also intimated we are interested in AFB.

I reckon more shedding is needed. I have my own thoughts on who has a target on their forehead.
 
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CHOGM said:
Ah that was it. Not applicable to Hiroti. I'm surprised hes not top 30 somewhere. He plays well enough.
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12 months ago plenty in this forum didn’t even want him min wage and had him stamped never to play NRL for sharks again didn’t they?

We don’t know what deal he’s on, most has to be 80k+, not more than anyone in top 30 and no put us out of tier 2 cap. Could be on 120k he was on last year. Same money as last year and easy for us to bump him to min if needed. If he stays dev and plays more than 3 games he’d actually make more than min in this instance.

Why would he take an extra 10k to move to another club over that deal?

You’d think he’d take an extra 50k if that was what was on the table. But not a lot of clubs hungry for a 5th choice fullback/centre/winger either
Backs and spine they’d rather try for a junior
 
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BurgoShark said:
After seeing a season with plenty of Graham, Trindall, Moylan or Mr Nobody as the 4th benchie I reckon every Sharks middle is a player they need.

They could use another good one of course, but I'd prefer they add rather than swap one.
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Really? I feel like we have enough good ones that someone good will miss out...

BHU
Toby
Dale
Cam
Hunt
Oregon
Williams
Talakai - if moves into the middle
Hazleton
Colquhoun

I'm all for us signing AFB, I think we need him. But, if we miss out, I will also be able to justify it to myself that its good we don't have $1m tied up in a prop.

I don't think our forwards have reached their potential (other than Dale), the rest all have another gear. If they can get it right, they could tear it up. Harder said than done, but I don't think its as bad as some people make out.
 
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A player swap doesn’t have to be between 2 parties.

It could be 3 or more even .

Player A goes to team B
Player B goes to team C
Player C goes to team A

Lots of negotiating options
 
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Western Sharkie said:
A player swap doesn’t have to be between 2 parties.

It could be 3 or more even .

Player A goes to team B
Player B goes to team C
Player C goes to team A

Lots of negotiating options
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Yeah true. We still have to find someone who wants one of our players and warriors wants one of theirs and everyone happy. Possible but not necessarily simple.

Iro to someone who would lose a prop willing to go to NZ?
Eels who send Greig to NZ?
 
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Blair said:
Really? I feel like we have enough good ones that someone good will miss out...

BHU
Toby
Dale
Cam
Hunt
Oregon
Williams
Talakai - if moves into the middle
Hazleton
Colquhoun

I'm all for us signing AFB, I think we need him. But, if we miss out, I will also be able to justify it to myself that its good we don't have $1m tied up in a prop.

I don't think our forwards have reached their potential (other than Dale), the rest all have another gear. If they can get it right, they could tear it up. Harder said than done, but I don't think its as bad as some people make out.
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That's what good coaches make happen...
 
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Blair said:
Really? I feel like we have enough good ones that someone good will miss out...

BHU
Toby
Dale
Cam
Hunt
Oregon
Williams
Talakai - if moves into the middle
Hazleton
Colquhoun

I'm all for us signing AFB, I think we need him. But, if we miss out, I will also be able to justify it to myself that its good we don't have $1m tied up in a prop.

I don't think our forwards have reached their potential (other than Dale), the rest all have another gear. If they can get it right, they could tear it up. Harder said than done, but I don't think it’s as bad as some people make out.
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Last three seasons we have the conversation on the forum about who is going to miss out, and then by round 8 they are plugging holes.
 
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Blair said:
Really? I feel like we have enough good ones that someone good will miss out...

BHU
Toby
Dale
Cam
Hunt
Oregon
Williams
Talakai - if moves into the middle
Hazleton
Colquhoun

I'm all for us signing AFB, I think we need him. But, if we miss out, I will also be able to justify it to myself that its good we don't have $1m tied up in a prop.

I don't think our forwards have reached their potential (other than Dale), the rest all have another gear. If they can get it right, they could tear it up. Harder said than done, but I don't think its as bad as some people make out.
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I definitely agree that our guys have some improvement in them. A bit more on the availability though...

There were 10 guys who played regularly in the middle last year (the 9 remaining plus Graham). The Sharks didn't have more than 8 available as middles for any one game, and in more than half the games had only 6. Quite often one of the 6 or 7 was a guy returning from an injury/suspension and only playing a reduced role. One game 2 guys got injured during the game and they only had 4 guys who actually played a normal stint in the middle. That was round 4. Pretty rough being in that situation so early in the year. Panthers game they had 5.

The only middles who missed out all season were Hazelton (rounds 3-5) and Colquhoun (rounds 8-18).

Seems to me that having 10 guys who can play in the middle isn't quite enough, and I can't see the NRL getting less strict on crushers, hip drops, lifting, head contact and the independent doctor.

Sharks currently have 9 middles in the top 30, plus 2 on the dev list, plus Sifa.
 
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BurgoShark said:
After seeing a season with plenty of Graham, Trindall, Moylan or Mr Nobody as the 4th benchie I reckon every Sharks middle is a player they need.

They could use another good one of course, but I'd prefer they add rather than swap one.


I think he means now.
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Yep seems the ol middle Tackling warhorse is becoming a desirable commodity, in the current environment where a heap of players seem to get through now, with poor defence, or averse to defence, attitudes.
 
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MrDravid said:
Interesting comments from Gus re forward recruitment:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1729821240091959346
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Regarding internal development too. That makes sense though. If over the next 5 years, the NRL introduces more teams, it's going to be more important than ever to have good juniors. New teams can come through and overpay for the stars easily. Feels like the path Fitz/Mooney have been going down with requesting strong juniors for releasing players etc.
 
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