More extreme example than would come up in a game but if NAS ran at me failing to tackle him is just the logical outcome, I didn’t specifically make a mistake (other than finding myself in that position)
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Yep. I won't go into it as we'll be thinking the same situations
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If NAS ran at you from 5m 50 times, how many times you reckon you'd stop him? You don't get injured so no lasting effects from previous runs.
From 5m out… none
Maybe once I could get enough on him combined with enough luck he fumbled the put down, but that’d be more his mistake
Guys who make the NRL (especially for their size / physicality) are a cut above and once they’ve settled into a fulltime program… forget about it
I’d be lucky to get a stop on that pussy Kaufusi and I was good at tackling but I also know I wasn’t close to the NRL
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Cap is asking the wrong question.
Imo a non-NRL player with very good low tackle technique could stop him 70% of the time or better. There are lots of players who are great tacklers who just aren’t big/fast/strong/fit/creative/aggressive enough for the NRL…
… but if the question is how many times you could tackle him AND prevent any type off offload AND slow him down enough for you to get back legally to marker and help defend on the next play… the answer would be close to zero. That’s the difference between NRL players and everyone else.
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My tackle technique was awful
I was all about the collision and I’m simply not winning that against NAS
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Just watched the 2nd England-Tonga test.
Played mostly under the rain. Tonga were their own worst enemies in the first half with poor discipline, poor ball control whereas England did all the little things pretty well especially in defense. Took advantage of Tonga's lack of discipline to lead 12-0 at half-time with two tries on the back of repeat sets.
Tonga played better in the 2nd half as they dominated the better part of the first 20 minutes. Scored a nice try while England butchered 2 great opportunities. England eventually prevailed in a scrappy affair 14-4. Both teams' execution really fell apart during the last quarter.
Not exactly a great game, plenty of errors but the weather didn't help. Both teams were evenly matched with the difference being mostly the game management. Tonga had none, England were smarter without being brilliant.
Frizzell was Tonga's best player, he had a very good game. Tonga is a physical side, but a spine of Havilli, Katoa, Loloheia & Hopoate will never lead them anywhere. Kicking game was pathetic.
As for England, they showed they could handle the bash & barge. Their kicking game was decent, but they're not going to trouble NZ or Australia any time soon. However, the team is rather young especially the spine and the backs, so they can only improve with experience. Cleary, Munster & co would tear them to pieces at this stage though.
Played mostly under the rain. Tonga were their own worst enemies in the first half with poor discipline, poor ball control whereas England did all the little things pretty well especially in defense. Took advantage of Tonga's lack of discipline to lead 12-0 at half-time with two tries on the back of repeat sets.
Tonga played better in the 2nd half as they dominated the better part of the first 20 minutes. Scored a nice try while England butchered 2 great opportunities. England eventually prevailed in a scrappy affair 14-4. Both teams' execution really fell apart during the last quarter.
Not exactly a great game, plenty of errors but the weather didn't help. Both teams were evenly matched with the difference being mostly the game management. Tonga had none, England were smarter without being brilliant.
Frizzell was Tonga's best player, he had a very good game. Tonga is a physical side, but a spine of Havilli, Katoa, Loloheia & Hopoate will never lead them anywhere. Kicking game was pathetic.
As for England, they showed they could handle the bash & barge. Their kicking game was decent, but they're not going to trouble NZ or Australia any time soon. However, the team is rather young especially the spine and the backs, so they can only improve with experience. Cleary, Munster & co would tear them to pieces at this stage though.
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Wrong question for your answer maybe but my question was just shooting the **** & wasn't about anything but stopping him from a 5m run up. No plays to read, no try lines to defend, no offloads, no worry about next set. NAS from 5m x 50, no fatigue or injury.
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Upgrade that Tongan spine a bit those forwards are a dream to play off. Lolohea is gash, Katoa too inexperienced, Havilli is very limited & Hoppa the craftyest but too slow.
Loved Felise Kaufusi chopping ****s in half. Snapped Victor.
Oh I misunderstood, I thought he has a full run up, PTB was 5m from tryline
He’s that big a human and uses those bumpers well still not sure I’d have much luck haha
If I had some teammates I could probably get a few good first contacts on him but would need some help to get the mountain down
I’d be thanking god for this miracle no injury situation that’s for sure
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@Capital_Shark I also misunderstood this as meaning 5m out in a game situation…
If you are just playing bullrush with a short run up, surely bort could get him down a few times out of 50. Someone with good tackle technique 40+.
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If the situation arose somehow it’d be kind of fun to have a crack
The infinite energy and no injury only way I’d get close to 50 tries
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Why be scared when you have a magic sponge that props you back up to 100% health immediately after?
I tackled Petero, Priddle and Tookey... but I reckon Mark Protheroe was one of the hardest blokes to tackle. Imo it is harder to get a good low shot on a bloke who is shorter, a few steps quicker and built like a sack of walnuts.
I'd probably be even more worried about that as I've never played cricket, so if they were bowling short (the cricket version of raising the bumpers?) it's basically just someone throwing a particularly aerodynamic rock at me repeatedly. No thanks.
As an adult I never really played against any especially great forwards, most who are benefiting from size and physicality to the point of being an NRL prospect leave before they have filled out fully. Plenty of big tough and strong blokes around in WA comp, but no Petro's or anything.
Guy from comp over here I was least interest in tackling played U20s and I think some Cup but came over here for fam reasons instead of pursuing NRL. He ran and tackled with violence. Fortunately, at my club so I just had to train against him, and I was in the backs while he was here, so not too much!
Think he could have made NRL at least a little if he had stuck it out as was still early 20s when he was here.