(Archived) THE RUMOUR MILL - Player Movement

Status
Not open for further replies.
Joined
Feb 3, 2015
Messages
8,545
Reaction score
2,847
If it's really that bad **** him off now I say.

Seriously, no Chad and no SJ next year, we really have to get game time into Trindall NOW.

We are a chance to make the finals, so I'm okay with getting him in via the bench for a bit. But i'd hope to see him getting better minutes. If either can get that early release though then **** it, let them go.
 

HaroldBishop

Megalodon
Joined
Mar 8, 2012
Messages
55,472
Reaction score
8,335
Location
Sydney
We are a chance to make the finals, so I'm okay with getting him in via the bench for a bit. But i'd hope to see him getting better minutes. If either can get that early release though then **** it, let them go.

If his attitude is really that bad, and I don't know that obviously, then I can't see the point in playing him.
 
Joined
Feb 3, 2015
Messages
8,545
Reaction score
2,847
If his attitude is really that bad, and I don't know that obviously, then I can't see the point in playing him.
Yeah fair. Would be good for the squad to continue to get some finals experience though.

Alternatively, we give Trindall and Metcalf some games each to see if either can really step up.
 

CrazyMatt

Jaws
Joined
Jul 31, 2010
Messages
23,244
Reaction score
2,979
Location
Colyton, Sydney
Is there anyone here who actually thinks a Hynes/Moylan combination will work??? I know Hynes has an ok kicking game but it’s not at the point that he could take on the primary kicking duties and steer the team around. Moylan’s kicking game is like my abs. Long gone. I just don’t get what Fitz is thinking here.

I understand the experience side. I do think however that if we got Finucane, then he, Mcinnes and Graham are great experience in the pack and we might get as much go forward from what we have. Not that I don't like Liu. Say we moved Uele on i'd be all for him coming.

I really don’t like the idea of giving up on Uele. He had a rough start to the year but there’s too much upside there to throw it away. As a bench prop he might excel.
 

Thresher

Jaws
Joined
Jul 5, 2011
Messages
24,856
Reaction score
3,533
Location
Melbourne
Well there you go. If we're considering early releases perhaps we have some early signings in mind?
 
Joined
Apr 27, 2010
Messages
9,000
Reaction score
911
Location
Sydney
Well there you go. If we're considering early releases perhaps we have some early signings in mind?

Or just don't want them stinking up the place with their sulking. Can give some young kids some game time for next year and any cap space can front load some players contracts ?
 

bort

Jaws
Joined
Jun 4, 2007
Messages
30,500
Reaction score
6,315
Location
IN A BAR
Because I don't know much about Super League I won't speculate on good options from there

I'd maybe be looking at something like

1 of: Moylan, Milford, Taylor, SJ, Hynes, Mann, Doueihi
2 of: Boyd, Crossland, Dargan, Jacks, Johns, O'Sullivan, Gamble, Trindall, Hutchison*

The top guys all have high ceilings but form/injury/potential are all barriers.
(to clarify potential I mean Hynes for example, looks like he might be very good but it is unproven)
Some of these guys can play 7 but probably all are better as 6s. Some of these guys also have good utility value out of halves but that is diminished a tiny bit in it's value to us as we already have Tracey.
Depending on who we took from top list, Milf/Moylan etc who need a kick up the arse or may miss games we have the second guy from list two and Tracey to push them, or replace them if needed.
SJ is wait and see at the moment, but I'd still be happy to keep him if he is happy to stay (and finds some form)

Second list there are probably a few other names that could be here but they are up and comers who can compete for the 7
(maybe some aren't really suited to NRL 7, I don't know all of them super well) *Hutch is the least 7 of them but does provide good contest at 6 and cheap enough no issue if he isn't in first grade

For example if you got Hynes, Johns and Gamble you can expect there to be very good contest for spots with two of the guys also coming from Storm system, plus getting Mattys son would be funny. Johns has been playing 5/8 in cup but at least he kicks.
I like the attitude of Gamble from what we have seen this year, I think he would be a good one to keep pushing for the spot and keep contest for spots alive.

List isn't concrete, if you could get two guys from the top list at good enough price and just one from bottom list that'd be fine, but price needs to be good as we need to allocate resources wisely, and many of them don't work as combos.
I also have preferences from within the list, Moylan for example would have to be insanely cheap for me to be okay with him, I have no confidence in his legs but at 150k....

Plan is coming together, still think we need some contest for the 7 spot by players who can actually play 7, I'm fine with one of those two being Trindall.
Also will still accept Moylan at insanely cheap, but I do struggle to see how we use Hynes, Moylan and Tracey unless one converts to be a centre.
 

Gal The Goat

Grey Nurse
Joined
Feb 21, 2021
Messages
674
Reaction score
289
Is there anyone here who actually thinks a Hynes/Moylan combination will work??? I know Hynes has an ok kicking game but it’s not at the point that he could take on the primary kicking duties and steer the team around. Moylan’s kicking game is like my abs. Long gone. I just don’t get what Fitz is thinking here.
.

Just my feeling on all this happening but I reckon Fitz is now thinking Trindall (seen it reported we are signing him for 1 year) will partner Hynes, after Johnson not buying into the club. Moylan is being re-signed on a cheap contract to play that bench 14 role and used as a good halves back up. Tracey apparently moved to centres.
 

HaroldBishop

Megalodon
Joined
Mar 8, 2012
Messages
55,472
Reaction score
8,335
Location
Sydney
On Finucane, Gary Dover co-hosted Sharkcast this week and is an employee of the club. He said Mooney talks to no one at the club about targets, gives absolutely nothing away.
 

CrazyMatt

Jaws
Joined
Jul 31, 2010
Messages
23,244
Reaction score
2,979
Location
Colyton, Sydney
Just my feeling on all this happening but I reckon Fitz is now thinking Trindall (seen it reported we are signing him for 1 year) will partner Hynes, after Johnson not buying into the club. Moylan is being re-signed on a cheap contract to play that bench 14 role and used as a good halves back up. Tracey apparently moved to centres.

I’m not really sold on Moylan as 14 either tbh.
 

Cage

Bull Shark
Joined
Dec 15, 2018
Messages
1,950
Reaction score
17
Location
Hunter Valley
Just my feeling on all this happening but I reckon Fitz is now thinking Trindall (seen it reported we are signing him for 1 year) will partner Hynes, after Johnson not buying into the club. Moylan is being re-signed on a cheap contract to play that bench 14 role and used as a good halves back up. Tracey apparently moved to centres.

Pretty much what I was thinking too, and even though you would only pay him peanuts I wouldn't be wasting a roster spot on Moylan.
 

Gal The Goat

Grey Nurse
Joined
Feb 21, 2021
Messages
674
Reaction score
289
I’m not really sold on Moylan as 14 either tbh.

Yeah I actually don’t mind the 4 forward bench instead, but you run a player like Wilton and Talakai who can cover a few positions so you can shuffle your side Incase of injuries
 

bort

Jaws
Joined
Jun 4, 2007
Messages
30,500
Reaction score
6,315
Location
IN A BAR
Yeah I actually don’t mind the 4 forward bench instead, but you run a player like Wilton and Talakai who can cover a few positions so you can shuffle your side Incase of injuries

Or keep Tracey there and buy a centre instead of keeping Moylan and converting Tracey.
Tracey isn't great hooker cover, but could always use McInnes there at Tracey at 13 if Brailey needed a break or had mid game injury. Tracey fits both those scenarios better than Moylan and also covers win better and probably centre and fullback around as well as Moylan.
Don't see value in Moylan if we don't think he is starting half.
 

Tatus

Not-So-Great White
Joined
Jan 18, 2011
Messages
10,118
Reaction score
795
Location
South Coast
Or keep Tracey there and buy a centre instead of keeping Moylan and converting Tracey.
Tracey isn't great hooker cover, but could always use McInnes there at Tracey at 13 if Brailey needed a break or had mid game injury. Tracey fits both those scenarios better than Moylan and also covers win better and probably centre and fullback around as well as Moylan.
Don't see value in Moylan if we don't think he is starting half.
Tracey at centre makes even more sense with a 4 forward bench. He’d be back up half cover.
 

bort

Jaws
Joined
Jun 4, 2007
Messages
30,500
Reaction score
6,315
Location
IN A BAR
Tracey at centre makes even more sense with a 4 forward bench. He’d be back up half cover.

As is Graham.

Thing with 4 forward bench is we are barely playing two of our bench players right now, with one being a utility. Is the (in a fully fit team) 9th best forward in the top 30 really better than having a 'just in case' utility?
Is splitting his 10-15 mins at best over the other 8 forwards worse than having wider injury cover?
With injury that 4th forward may be the 10th or 11th best forward in the top 30, likely well outside the top 20 best players. Seems pretty legit with amount of HIAs and sinbins we are seeing currently the correct answer will be carry someone with wide reaching utility value rather than a 4th forward who may hardly get on.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top