NFL 2007/08

zakspiders · Jan 20, 2008

i'm led to believe that the americans have a less than outright ban on performance enhancing substances.

Pomeroy#3 · Jan 20, 2008

Megashark said:
Thanks for the picss Pom - this bloke looks like a giant, but to me he has the physique of a professional bodybuilder rather than what I would expect to see in a footballer. He is 120kg, and when most players bulk up to that extent their speed and stamina tend to suffer as a result. I am curious to know, which position does he play, and which physical qualities eg strength, speed, stamina, are the most important requirements for that position?

No worries mega. Vernon plays Defensive End, and could maybe play Outside Linebacker in a 3-4 defensive scheme. For his position you need to be quick and agile to mark up against Tight Ends and Wide Receivers who are normally very quick, majority of receivers run a 4.25-4.50 in the 40yard dash. Has to be strong to take on the Offensive Line, some offensive line-man can be anywhere from 6'1"-6'9" and weigh anything from 290lbs-360lbs. Also he has to be able to tackle.

zakspiders said:
he couldn't play nrl-he'd fail the drug testing!

Vernon hasn't failed a drug test yet. I was also skeptical.

Capital_Shark said:
I'll admit, they can move alright for the fat lards that they are. Probably helps they only spend a minimal amount of time on field, and the second they're required to change from attack to defense, they get a breather and some other fat lard replaces them.

The fella you posted, Vernon or whatever, is obviously not one of the aforementioned fat lards. He probably is quicker than most our outside backs, and stronger than our forwards. But I'd put my leftie on it that he would be as useless as tits on a bull in the NRL. Something that size cannot run around for 80 minutes attacking and defending until it hurts. He'd be a fantastic impact player for 15 minutes though, I'm sure - but with interchange limits, he wouldn't be worth it, especially since the chances of him evolving into something more than 15 minutes of hell per game would be slim to none.

But I don't wanna compare NFL and NRL, they're completely different games. One is about 34 blokes going hell for leather for 80 minutes matching skill, toughness, endurance, smarts and a whole host of other qualities against each other. And one game is about 8-10 specialty teams containing bugger knows how many people in total going stop-start against each other in 10 minute bursts.

NFL - An 80 minute game that takes 4 hours to complete.

Yes they are.

The NFL players are not as fit as Rugby League players, so yes your right the majority of them wouldn't make it here.

Though, our Rugby league players are not as strong, fast, agile and explosive as the majority of them in the NFL and just don't have the physical attributes to be able to play week in and week out. So they wouldn't make it over there either, ala Willie Mason.

You can't possibly compare the two games as they are completely different. Its just impossible.

Capital_Shark said:
That smacks of NFL/Union for me mate. I see the pros, but I reckon the cons far outweigh. The great thing about League is its relative
simplicity. Anyone can kick back with a beer and watch and understand with just a base knowledge of the rules, even if you can't hear
the telly. If something got pulled up from 3 plays back you'd have to hear either the commentator or the ref to know WTF just happened,
and why everyone is walking 20m back down the field. You'd be buggered at the ground watching the game live

Thats incorrect cap, you cannot call a play back 3 plays down the field in either NFL or Union.

zakspiders · Jan 20, 2008

i think he's referring to the woeful "playing the advantage" thing they have in union.

Capital_Shark · Jan 20, 2008

Pomeroy#3 said:
Thats incorrect cap, you cannot call a play back 3 plays down the field in either NFL or Union.

I think that quote was in reference to a rule change proposal for League.

scott17 · Jan 20, 2008

some of those guys from the nfl are massive. surely some of them have taken roids

Pomeroy#3 · Jan 20, 2008

They do get drug tested over there though. But Id say some take it.

peachey · Jan 20, 2008

when the aust team went over there to play the tomahawks, some of the boys were on the today show and one of the hosts got bowen to flex his muscles and said "guys, he isnt wearing pads, "you dont wear pads, you guys must be nuts"...

they have no concept of contact sport without wearing a bucketload of protective gear

oh and the patriots will choke in the superbowl

sharks195 · Jan 20, 2008

peachey said:
when the aust team went over there to play the tomahawks, some of the boys were on the today show and one of the hosts got bowen to flex his muscles and said "guys, he isnt wearing pads, "you dont wear pads, you guys must be nuts"...

they have no concept of contact sport without wearing a bucketload of protective gear

oh and the patriots will choke in the superbowl

but the pads don't help with anything. trust me you get hit and you get the full force of the hit, padding will help if you fall on the ground more than it will against the players.

peachey · Jan 20, 2008

tell that to the yanks...the quaterback should wear padding, if he didnt, he would be killed by the [as cap would put it] fat lards that charge at him

bort · Jan 21, 2008

peachey said:
oh and the patriots will choke in the superbowl

just like always?

Megashark · Jan 21, 2008

Pomeroy#3 said:
No worries mega. Vernon plays Defensive End, and could maybe play Outside Linebacker in a 3-4 defensive scheme. For his position you need to be quick and agile to mark up against Tight Ends and Wide Receivers who are normally very quick, majority of receivers run a 4.25-4.50 in the 40yard dash. Has to be strong to take on the Offensive Line, some offensive line-man can be anywhere from 6'1"-6'9" and weigh anything from 290lbs-360lbs. Also he has to be able to tackle.

Thanks for that Pom, you obviously have a good knowledge of the game. One thing I have heard a lot about NFL is how tactically-based it is, it is often likened to a game of chess. I would be keen to watch more and try to learn something about it, but I don't often get 4hrs free during a day - which is also the reason I don't watch a lot more cricket!

sharks195 · Jan 21, 2008

Megashark said:
Thanks for that Pom, you obviously have a good knowledge of the game. One thing I have heard a lot about NFL is how tactically-based it is, it is often likened to a game of chess. I would be keen to watch more and try to learn something about it, but I don't often get 4hrs free during a day - which is also the reason I don't watch a lot more cricket!

i think that nfl is based on the civil war a bit too, hence its tactical side.

brad · Jan 21, 2008

bloody packers choked. ffs

Pomeroy#3 · Jan 21, 2008

Favre did in OT

bort · Jan 21, 2008

peachey said:
oh and the patriots will choke in the superbowl

well your half right
they are in
but they wont choke

brad · Jan 22, 2008

i wouldnt say they are definite to win. the giants nearly cleaned them up in the final week of the regular season and they are playing very, very well.

brad · Feb 5, 2008

Giants 17-13 Patriots

bort · Feb 5, 2008

peachey · Feb 5, 2008

and what did i say...

"patriots will choke in the superbowl"

biggest choke in sporting history :lmao

bort · Feb 5, 2008

peachey said:
biggest choke in sporting history :lmao

think that might be an overstatement

but twas definitely a big choke

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