Try Conversions - My Thoughts

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Is anyone else over them?

I think I am. They are boring the socks off me how long it takes for a kicker to line it up and slot it over. After a try is scored there is enough time to go make a cup of tea and come back to watch it. I want to see more actual footy!

I relise they are a traditional part of the game and all but I think they could use a tweak considering how the game is evoloving (rubber kicking tees/improved goal kicking skills, reliance on bombs, need to give fans value for money on game day ect)

It probabaly wouldn't be so frustrating if valuable game time wasn't ticking down in the process but despite fans complaining the NRL hasn't changed this policy. Mabye it is to do with schedules or player fatigue I don't know but it means we only really see 70 mins of game time.

Anyways back to the brunt of it, they are just not a highlight in our game. I mean the crowd might get excited if it's a close game or it's a tough side line conversion but other than that I feel a tad sense of apathy about it. I know the 2points could be the difference but tries is what this game is about right? In some games they feel more like a formality and the time wasting is a killer to a team trying to crawl its way back.

Guess that's the reward for the team getting tries in the middle under the sticks and giving their goal kicker a much better chance. But I think teams just attempt to find the try line whever they can and don't actively or intentionally aim to put someone over in the middle. If they do well it's a nice bonus as your gauranteed another 2 points essentially.

Goal kickers have gotten so good these days I think they have pretty decent conversion rates from out wide anyway.

I'm so excited after the team scores a try the conversion is almost like an after thought. On the other hand after opposition scores that next few minutes is agonising waiting to get back into the game and try and get momentum back.

How many times have we seen a team lose despite scoring more tries.
So despite a "teams" superior performance the result gets determined by one players boot vs the others. Sorta like the scrappy field goal shoot outs we get in extra time although there's a bit more to those.

So with the above as a bit of a pretext some ideas or options with the aim of increasing actual game time and making conversions more relevant (in my mind anyway).

1. If nothing else, please STOP the clock when player is lining up the conversion.

2. Or decrease the available time the kicker has to take the conversion. They fluff about with their tee and wind direction ect but when the game is on the line and time is running out boy they seem to be able to kick it pretty quick so they are capable of doing this. Would also add more value to the try under the sticks as goal kicker has less time to prep so easy shot is much bigger advantage.

3. Alot of people complain about the predictible 5th tackle bomb which is a 50/50 lottery more akin to AFL which leads to alot of tries. Some argue such tries should be worth less. Why not remove a conversion attempt all together if a try has come off a bomb so max they can score is 4.

That will bring more value to a through the hands try.

4. Keep conversions but no more kicking off a tee. Use drop kicks just like in Union. They are over and done with quick and arguarly require more skill to carry out on target. Getting a try under the sticks again will be worth more pursuing as the conversion attempts out wide are so much tougher.
 

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The thing that pisses me off most about conversions, is that they play such a big factor in close games. Kinda annoying that a team has to rely on one sole player for such crucial points at times. In saying that, I don't see a better alternative.
 

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I agree, the clock should be stopped. Also, should be stopped at drop-outs, and restarting play.
 

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I agree that there needs to be a system to prevent deliberate time wasting but at the same time I do agree that broadcasters need lots of natural breaks in play to slot in commercial content.

It is a bad look for Rugby League when either team is obviously running down the clock.
 

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I agree, the clock should be stopped. Also, should be stopped at drop-outs, and restarting play.

you wouldnt want it stopped if u were the team that needed to waste time tho?
 

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you wouldnt want it stopped if u were the team that needed to waste time tho?

Lol I think us the Sharks are the ones who usually need MORE time in the game and are not the ones usually wasting it.

When we are in front and game is almost done we are pretty good at it though.
 

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Stop the Clock is my opinion.

They stop the clock for everything else.......gives us fans more actual game time
 

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You should only be aloud to kick if you have funny kicking style - like soward and quade cooper. They could stop the clock and it would be like a little show you get after a try.
 
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yeah just stop the clock and have a time limit don't see what else should be done
 

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they should either stop the clock or make penalties wasting time, bit of a dog act hte way some people do it, acting hurt or unfit adnd standing up and watching the clock
 

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I love the conversion. Its a big reason i loved Covell so much.
Its also a big reason my girlfriends fav player is Hazem.
The Conversion is an awesome part of league and i hope it never goes away.

and i dont want the clock stopped. It wins so many games taking time on the kick. Covell did it heaps for us.
 

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I love the conversion. Its a big reason i loved Covell so much.
Its also a big reason my girlfriends fav player is Hazem.
The Conversion is an awesome part of league and i hope it never goes away.

and i dont want the clock stopped. It wins so many games taking time on the kick. Covell did it heaps for us.

ve got no problem with conversions, i hate wasting time right in the middle of play
 

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an observation about conversions...

question : - do the touchies still mark the spot where the try was scored??

it bugs me that the kickers do no tak it in line with where the try was scored.

examples ive seen lately...

- i think i was a dragons try a few weeks back, was scored right next to the upright, the kick was taken from in front. yes a matter of metres but lets get it right.

- the other one is a bit odd... i cant remember the team but they scored easily 3 metres in from touch, the kicker took the shot from 30cm in from the sideline. you probably say thats ok cos its harder for him, yes it is, but if i practised fromt he exact same spot and was allowed to move it to that position every wide out kick id be cheering...

in summary, kick it level with where the try was scored.
 

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Sometimes kickers take the ball backwards a few metres to get a better angle.
Maybe they are allowed to take it out wider??
 
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I just say time off when the try is scored and time back on when the kick off is kicked.

Outside of that if we are going to talk about things that waste time. I HATE the video ref, personally I think it should just come down to the refs choice end of story.
 
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