Official Toby Rudolf

[Proud Shark]

Yeah there are errors and errors. That one drop is worth 4 of AFB's crash ball errors at the line.

I'd give half the responsibility to the passer, but we can't be making those coach killer errors that put us under intense pressure.

 

[apezza]

Yeah there are errors and errors. That one drop is worth 4 of AFB's crash ball errors at the line.

I'd give half the responsibility to the passer, but we can't be making those coach killer errors that put us under intense pressure.

Don't worry about the coach, they are pezza killers!

 

[Art Vandelay]

it was bad hey

 

[Sir Chadley]

He was his usual happy self after the game. I don't think I have ever seen this before but as we were walking back to our car, my son suddenly drew my attention to a group of girls just near the first set of steps in front of the Monty Porter stand and there holding court in his full playing gear was Toby. They were hanging on his every word and he was enjoying himself immensely.

Seen plenty of players come up to the fences while staying on the ground but I think that's the first time I've seen a player jump the fence and venture so far into the stands.

 

[HaroldBishop]

He was his usual happy self after the game. I don't think I have ever seen this before but as we were walking back to our car, my son suddenly drew my attention to a group of girls just near the first set of steps in front of the Monty Porter stand and there holding court in his full playing gear was Toby. They were hanging on his every word and he was enjoying himself immensely.

Seen plenty of players come up to the fences while staying on the ground but I think that's the first time I've seen a player jump the fence and venture so far into the stands.

He did it at Parra Stadium a few years ago, it's great.

 

[apezza]

He was his usual happy self after the game. I don't think I have ever seen this before but as we were walking back to our car, my son suddenly drew my attention to a group of girls just near the first set of steps in front of the Monty Porter stand and there holding court in his full playing gear was Toby. They were hanging on his every word and he was enjoying himself immensely.

Seen plenty of players come up to the fences while staying on the ground but I think that's the first time I've seen a player jump the fence and venture so far into the stands.

He was probably asking them if they know anyone from the PNG Chiefs!

 

[Sir Chadley]

He was probably asking them if they know anyone from the PNG Chiefs!

With this group of young ladies, I doubt that was on his mind. Made me wish I was 40 years younger!!

 

[apezza]

With this group of young ladies, I doubt that was on his mind. Made me wish I was 40 years younger!!

I'm hearing you brother.

 

[HaroldBishop]

With this group of young ladies, I doubt that was on his mind. Made me wish I was 40 years younger!!

Mate I doubt they're be interested in listening to an 80 year old.

 

[BrickMan]

His 4th error of the season, others are a lot worse, his prop partner in AFB is sitting on 5.

Plus the pass was terrible.

Its not just his errors, his defence gets sloppy and tends to give away dumb penalties/6 again after the 18 minute mark too. Not sure how everyone else can see he needs to come off but the coach

 

[Sharks NRL Prospects]

Its not just his errors, his defence gets sloppy and tends to give away dumb penalties/6 again after the 18 minute mark too. Not sure how everyone else can see he needs to come off but the coach

I debunked this one already in great detail. Both for Toby specifically and for the idea of any prop being tired after "X" minutes.

That he dropped it from the kick-off 2 weeks in a row sucks but there is no trend.

 

[AdShark]

I debunked this one already in great detail. Both for Toby specifically and for the idea of any prop being tired after "X" minutes.

That he dropped it from the kick-off 2 weeks in a row sucks but there is no trend.

Why does he always do it then?

 

[BrickMan]

I debunked this one already in great detail. Both for Toby specifically and for the idea of any prop being tired after "X" minutes.

That he dropped it from the kick-off 2 weeks in a row sucks but there is no trend.

I haven’t seen that but if he doesn’t get tired after a certain time why doesn’t he play 80?

And I said it’s not just the errors him whole game gets sloppy after being in the game for that 15-20 mark. The trend isn’t dropping it off kickoffs it’s all the dumb stuff

 

[Sharks NRL Prospects]

I haven’t seen that but if he doesn’t get tired after a certain time why doesn’t he play 80?

What I mean is that saying that errors made at the 20 minute are always fatigue related is incorrect. The 20 minute mark of one game could have 20 minutes of ball in play, and the next game could have 5, or the team could have the ball or the whole time or not at all. What the clock shows is not a reliable indicator of how tired a player may or may not be.

E.g. the Cowboys game had 3 tries, 2 scrums and a penalty in the first 13.5 minutes. Each try you lose 2-3 minutes of clock time , a scrum is 60-90 seconds seconds and a penalty where they kick for touch is 20-30. Even using the low end estimates in each case here they lost at least 8 minutes of play in the first 13.5.

If he was tired after 5 minutes of actual football in 13.5 minutes of real-time he in indeed an unfit bum.

And I said it’s not just the errors him whole game gets sloppy after being in the game for that 15-20 mark. The trend isn’t dropping it off kickoffs it’s all the dumb stuff

Yeah this is what I looked at. I spent probably 10-15 hours researching it across the 2023-2025 seasons. It's not a thing. There is actually evidence to the contrary - suggesting that maybe he takes a while to "get into the game".

He makes an occasional error after being on for a long time, but he actually has far more errors/penalties in the first 10 minutes his stint. He also misses less tackles on average after the 10 minute mark of his stint than in the first 10. His support runs and the percentage of times he wins the ruck remain consistent from early in his stints to late in them.

If you say you think he looks tired after 20 minutes I can't argue with you on that - but there are no patterns in his play that suggests he would do less bad stuff or more good stuff (on average) if the coach took him off a few minutes earlier from his first stint.

Sometimes a dropped ball is just a dropped ball. It doesn't have to mean every time that the player is a lazy fat-ass or the coach doesn't understand interchange.

 

[CrazyMatt]

His 4th error of the season, others are a lot worse, his prop partner in AFB is sitting on 5.

Plus the pass was terrible.

Reminds me of the pelters Jack Williams used to get on here for his errors, even though statistically he was in no way our worst offender.

 

[Gibs]

Its not just his errors, his defence gets sloppy and tends to give away dumb penalties/6 again after the 18 minute mark too. Not sure how everyone else can see he needs to come off but the coach

According to the stats sheet, he's given away 2 penalites and 0 6 again's this season so far

 

[Sevshark]

Reminds me of the pelters Jack Williams used to get on here for his errors, even though statistically he was in no way our worst offender.

I miss him so much

 

[apezza]

Reminds me of the pelters Jack Williams used to get on here for his errors, even though statistically he was in no way our worst offender.

In Jack's defence, he has ten thumbs.

 

[CrazyMatt]

I miss him so much

Me too man……me too.

 

[Sharks NRL Prospects]

I miss him so much

Me too man……me too.

Yeah he did so much good stuff but two games each season he'd get the dropsies.

Amazing ptb speed though. 2023 season he was near-impossible to put on his back even if the opposition had 3-4 blokes on him, and a 2 man tackle on him was always a prime opportunity to shift.