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Thanks for sharing that. I was hoping their would be a solution to players training with the NRL squad but playing for the Jets.
 

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Thanks for sharing that. I was hoping their would be a solution to players training with the NRL squad but playing for the Jets.

Yeah - it's great news. One idea raised was running a small reserve grade comp for only NRL-contracted players from Sydney teams, where each team was comprised of players from two NRL sides. I don't know if that was ever seriously considered.

Another small feeder note. The Ipswich Jets will be sending some players to Newcastle for pre-season training. Ipswich have previously been a Brisbane feeder team but the Walkers had a falling out with Bennett a couple of years ago over Marion Seve (they put him on the bench).
 
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It also sounds like going off comments from Abdo yesterday that if the situation stays the same or improves then there could actually be no bubble next year but it's important to start planning now for a bubble.

I still think they could have gotten the comps going for a short period this year and were too hasty to end the comp.
 

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It also sounds like going off comments from Abdo yesterday that if the situation stays the same or improves then there could actually be no bubble next year but it's important to start planning now for a bubble.

I still think they could have gotten the comps going for a short period this year and were too hasty to end the comp.

Easy to say in hindsight, but loads of things stopping quickly helped contribute to the overall slowing of spread. Many things that shut down could probably look back and say they could have got away with not doing so but that's based on having a fairly good outcome from the fact that so many things did shut down.
The feeder comps maybe would have run fine but the NRL wanted to maximise the chance they could get through the season so they had to keep a strict bubble which then locked players out of being able to drop down to Cup.
 
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Easy to say in hindsight, but loads of things stopping quickly helped contribute to the overall slowing of spread. Many things that shut down could probably look back and say they could have got away with not doing so but that's based on having a fairly good outcome from the fact that so many things did shut down.
The feeder comps maybe would have run fine but the NRL wanted to maximise the chance they could get through the season so they had to keep a strict bubble which then locked players out of being able to drop down to Cup.

Of course but they just cancelled it. They could have postponed it to a shorter comp in July for example and worked with the NRL and if they had to cancel it a bit later so be it.

Not much point going on about it i guess, just frustrates me that players like Pele, Trindall, Ferris and the like missed out on valuable development time.
 

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Of course but they just cancelled it. They could have postponed it to a shorter comp in July for example and worked with the NRL and if they had to cancel it a bit later so be it.

Not much point going on about it i guess, just frustrates me that players like Pele, Trindall, Ferris and the like missed out on valuable development time.

They were all trapped in the bubble and wouldn't have been able to play anyway. It is only players outside of the bubble that would have been able to play and most of them I think just dropped back into park footy teams and the like to keep playing (I think?).
With how things were at the time the NRL couldn't risk the comp by compromising their bubbles just so these guys can get some games. And at the same time running the Cup comps without any NRL contracted or development players wasn't really worthwhile either.
 

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Did we do much with that relationship? Last I heard was the original announcement
 

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Did we do much with that relationship? Last I heard was the original announcement

I think they sent some players over late last pre-season. There were other plans, but Covid knocked them on the head.
 

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I think they sent some players over late last pre-season. There were other plans, but Covid knocked them on the head.

May be we missed the opportunity. Feels a bit like the ladies league... We had the good concept but someone else took it to the next level and we missed out
 

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A bit of feeder news from the Newtown Jets website:

At this stage 13 players have signed Newtown RLFC playing contracts for 2021; several others are still involved in negotiations but are very close to signing; there are more players who will be signing contracts with Newtown after having undertaken pre-season training programs with the Cronulla Sharks up to Xmas; plus there is another group who are currently training with Newtown on a “train and trial” basis.

On top of these numbers, there will be other players from the Cronulla Sharks full-time NRL squad who will made available for selection with Newtown once the competition rounds start.

The Canterbury Cup NSW competition will receive a new sponsor’s name prior to the commencement of the 2021 season. There will be ten clubs competing in the 2021 competition. The New Zealand Warriors have entered into a partnership with the Redcliffe Dolphins in the Queensland Cup; the Canberra Raiders have decided to use their players in the Canberra Raiders Cup (Group 8) competition; and Canterbury-Bankstown and Mounties have entered into a partnership.

The full 2021 draw for Newtown’s competition will be released early in the New Year.

The Jets remain in partnership with fellow foundation club the Glebe Dirty Reds. The Glebe boys will play exclusively under the Dirty Reds name in the Ron Massey Cup in 2021.

The Cronulla-Caringbah RLFC will replace Sydney University as Newtown’s partnership club in the NSWRL Sydney Shield competition.

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Would have been nice if they named the players :(

Lachlan Scarpelli is one of them
 

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Photo captured from the Jets "Merry Christmas" video. This shows all of the Jets and Wolves players at training. Not too many familiar faces.

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Jets Trial Games

Saturday, 13th February, v Penrith at St Mary’s Stadium. Kick-off time to be confirmed; very likely to be in the late afternoon.
Saturday, 20th February, v Blacktown Workers at H E Laybutt Stadium, Kick-off time to be confirmed; very likely to be in the late afternoon.
Saturday, 27th February, v Mounties. The kick-off time has been confirmed: 4.00pm. Venue still to be announced.
 

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Some news on lower grades. NRL is looking to more closely align NSW/QLD Cup schedules on Saturdays and Sundays to have more curtain raisers prior to NRL games.

This is already a thing in a lot of cases. In 2019 some NSW teams (e.g. Sharks, Panthers, Knights) already played Flegg and/or NSW Cup games as curtain raisers when possible, and both Brisbane and the Titans had QLD Cup games as curtain raisers a few times.

The article suggests it some revolutionary return to "reserve grade", but it's not that at all. The quotes from V'landys indicate that it is really just a matter of aligning in the NRL draw with the NSWRL and QRL to maximise the amount of times this can happen. In some cases it would be really easy (e.g. Cowboys/Blackhawks or having the Dolphins game immediately before the Warriors home games at Redcliffe) whereas others would be a real challenge (e.g. Sharks/Jets or Storm/Falcons).

The best part of this is that they are looking to broadcast it. More feeders and Flegg games on TV is a great thing for the game IMHO.

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/2e0d97182795e6ca60ddec1981dd280c

Peter V’landys has a new mission for 2021 — to bring back all three grades.

The ARLC chairman and NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo’s mandate to give the game back to the fans is set to continue with the return of reserve grade and under-21s games before NRL matches.

In a throwback to rugby league’s halcyon days of the 1980s and 1990s, when fans could follow the development of a rookie from the lower grades into a star of first grade, the NRL brains trust has been in talks with all 16 clubs about the return of “all three grades” this season.

The NRL is “down the track” with corresponding state leagues from the NSWRL and QRL on relaunching the model that will provide footy fans with the opportunity to watch three games inside the same stadium.

The NRL is acutely aware of the financial impact the model may have on some clubs, but believes that returning the lower grades to game day is viable.

Saturday and Sunday match days have been identified as the most likely starting point for the return of the reserve grade and under-21s matches, when possible.

“The concept of having fans being able to see up-and-coming and younger talent in the feeder competitions, or even a superstar making their comeback from injury, we believe that is a great project for us to work on,’’ Abdo said.

“We play NRL matches on Thursday to Sunday and some of the logistical arrangements with aligning the draw with the NSW Cup and Queensland Cup on a Thursday or Friday night, due to a large majority of the players still working jobs, could be problematic.

“But on a Saturday or Sunday, being able to align the draws of the NSW and Queensland Cup, makes sense and we are working on it.

“There’s not a lot of resistance to it. It’s just about aligning who is affiliated to which club and getting the draw to work.

“We’re receiving the co-operation that we need from both the NSWRL and QRL.”

Abdo said the NRL had spoken to host broadcasters Fox Sports and Nine about their mission to bring the stars of the future back into the schedule of an NRL game day.

“That’s what we’re working on,’’ Abdo said. “We want it broadcast, so we’re working with everyone, including Fox Sports and Nine, to see which games could be broadcast.

“We’re working with the NSWRL and the QRL to try and optimise the draw so that when Penrith play, their reserve grade team and possibly under-20s are also playing before on the Saturday.

“We’re hoping to get up to 30 or 40 (lower grade) games this season to maximise that outcome for fans.

“There’s something in there for everyone. It’s much easier in NSW. In Queensland it’s a bit trickier because the Broncos, Cowboys and Titans are aligned with Queensland Cup clubs, but it’s not impossible and we’re working on it.

“There’s not a lot of resistance to it.’’

Some of the game’s most gifted players, including Arthur Beetson, Graham Eadie, Phil Blake, Des Hasler, Andrew Johns, David Peachey and Mat Rogers, had already developed a fan following in the lower grades long before they made their first grade or NRL debuts.

V’landys, as evidenced by his polarising rule changes, has made no secret of his desire to return the game to the fans.

He said fans would be excited to be able to watch the game’s next generation of players.

“It’s very important that there is vertical integration to get into the NRL, like it used to be, which is the under-21s, into reserve grade, into first grade,’’ V’landys said.

“You only need to look at these Facebook forums where they put the teams up from years gone by to see all the players that were in the under-21s and reserve grade that ended up in first grade.

“To me it’s a priority. We have to look at it. Obviously, like anything, when you want to make a change there’s resistance, but Andrew is talking to the clubs about all those pros and cons.’’
 

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The best part of this is that they are looking to broadcast it. More feeders and Flegg games on TV is a great thing for the game IMHO.

I reckon only rusted on fans will watch it mate tbh, can't see it having any real benefit for the game.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be happy if it happens as I'll watch when I can.
 

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Bit of "Back to the Future". Will be a fantastic initiative, but some logistical nightmare's to over come. In particular Great for the at the Grounds Spectators, and reward/incentive for the lower grades, to be recognised. Big Kudos if even 50% proposed, materialises. Indicates 2021 but Season 2022 at earliest one would think, or co inciding with next TV Rights?.

Hahah, The Ol Storm may have to be dragged kickin and screaming
 

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I'm a bit the same. Great the young'uns have the opportunity, but I don't know that I'd watch much of it. Would be great if they also put together Kayo mini's or decent highlights packages though, would definitely watch those
 

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I reckon only rusted on fans will watch it mate tbh, can't see it having any real benefit for the game.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be happy if it happens as I'll watch when I can.

I mean for the good of rugby league - as distinct from the NRL.

More exposure and more sponsorship of lower grades and juniors = more full time footballers. Maybe down the track it pays for one extra $65k development spot for each club. Now there are 16 more guys who can work part time (or study) and concentrate on footy instead of having to work 40+ hour weeks. That's a net benefit to the game of rugby league even if none of these players ever make the NRL.
 

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I mean for the good of rugby league - as distinct from the NRL.

More exposure and more sponsorship of lower grades and juniors = more full time footballers. Maybe down the track it pays for one extra $65k development spot for each club. Now there are 16 more guys who can work part time (or study) and concentrate on footy instead of having to work 40+ hour weeks. That's a net benefit to the game of rugby league even if none of these players ever make the NRL.

Fair enough mate, agree with all of that.
 
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